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Thread: Aegis' Dungeoncrawler OOC II
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2022-05-29, 02:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Aegis' Dungeoncrawler OOC II
TheFallenOne, I updated the most recent post with new information. Letting you know since I know you've read it and responded.
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2022-05-29, 02:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Aegis' Dungeoncrawler OOC II
Thanks for the heads up, added a bit about that book passage.
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2022-05-29, 05:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'll post tonight when I get home from work, closing my store up again so I'm the last one in the building.
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2022-05-29, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Does Solum have hard rules in regards to called or summoned creatures via magic? Or other creatures acquire through various means such as Leadership? Right now, I'm gonna float the idea of burning xp to get Leadership and keep Puhrjan. Don't know if she qualifies as a target for it though nor am I sure if she's worth it. Though having extra undead sent in with us ready for Solstafir's use sounds useful. Of course, we could also just give her over to Solstafir.
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2022-05-29, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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The rules are pretty much as long as nobody in Solum gets hurt, you're fine.
You could get Leadership, though you'd probably have to take Puhrjan to Solum as a corpse as you initially considered.
Puhrjan is effectively level 10 so would be out of range to be your cohort.
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2022-05-29, 09:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Good thing skill checks are not auto fail on a 1....wow that was a bad time for a 1 though.
"We just want to know everything you can tell us, then we will kill you. But nothing personal, we will make it quick and all. Painless I swear, just close your eyes and you won't even realize anything happened."
Also saying its almost at the time again (so long as we don't die or such) I was going to ask about a few Feat prices in exp
Sacred Healing
Domain Focus
Spellcasting Prodigy
Snowcasting
Frozen Magic
Frostfell Prodigy
Enduring Life
Lasting Life
Heat Endurance
Sandskimmer
Constant GuardianLast edited by dantiesilva; 2022-05-29 at 09:33 PM.
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2022-05-30, 01:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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I doubt it would make a good base body for a zombie, nagas don't have that impressive physical stats and instead rely on spells and abilities that would be lost with the template. Plus, my current zombie is ridonculously good. Annis is already an excellent base, half-fiend template and the spider scimitars on top and it's close to an extra party member in terms of power.
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2022-05-30, 09:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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I realize now that the link in the OOC OP is broken, though diplomacy is altered from base rules and the way it works can be found here: https://forums.giantitp.com/showthre...n-GiantITP-com
dantiesilva, for diplomacy, you'll have to offer Puhrjan a deal or exchange. She's already acting in a helpful manner, but she would still be considered an Enemy (+5 DC). I don't see any exchange offered (other than the implicit talk or you die sooner) so I don't know if you succeeded.
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2022-05-30, 11:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Aegis' Dungeoncrawler OOC II
Forgot to roll these for detect magic if applicable.
Knowledge (Arcana): (1d20+7)[11]
Spellcraft: (1d20+9)[24]
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2022-05-30, 12:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm at work now so can't post, but if she just wants to be free of the dungeon AND won't try to kill/destroy Sol, she could be a useful ally to us if we make a deal to bring her back to life in Sol.
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2022-05-30, 11:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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So what does everyone think of the overall deal offered? I could see the naga being a useful asset in learning about the dungeon as well as possibly dungeon fruit and the like as well as researching things.
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2022-05-31, 12:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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I would at the very least ask the prince for permission before doing this. I would expect resurrecting Dungeon creatures with their free will intact inside Solum to be wildly illegal.
Also, uh, any chance the naga has slowly been turning one of us after the other with its Charming Gaze? That's a far too dangerous ability to put into a densely populated city if you ask me.
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2022-05-31, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Back from my trip. I'd rather not let anyone, especially the prince in on this since at the moment we know we shouldn't be trusting him with ****. Another consideration to follow up with, is that it might be likely we're not the only ones who have thought of this exploit nor the only ones that are using it. All you need is a friend capable of raising or being lucky enough to buy a scroll or know someone that will sell you one. Aegis, how many people in the city are at about our level?
My posting may be slowed due to new job.
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2022-05-31, 09:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Abigale is only one level away ( once we leave the Dungeon) from being able to cast raise dead herself so I mean worst case scenario we have days to get back into the dungeon, finish it without dying, and level up to bring said naga back to life.
This the " you will not directly or subvertly harm the people of Sol" for the eyes.
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2022-05-31, 10:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-31, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Abigale can't read scrolls only reason I said it the way I did, though if Orchid or anyone else wanted to read it that would be fine. Abigale would front most of the money for said scroll to be made however as it does serve the group not just her.
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2022-05-31, 03:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Aegis, do we have any insight on the laws on this? Since I regularly bring bodies from the Dungeon in it might well have come up what is and isn't appropriate use of them. I genuinely expect we'd have a date with the headsman if we resurrect the naga and it causes havok, guys.
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2022-05-31, 04:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think your team has a Protection against Enemy aura coming from someone which would stop the Charming Gaze, and since the zombie has her pinned, it can just keep her face down against the floor so she can't use it.
Not a ton, but enough. You're quite elite among Delvers now and would qualify for the Royal Guard should someone elect to retire a character. Do keep in mind, other NPCs of your level probably aren't going to be nearly as powerful as you due to all of the extra resources (they'd still follow NPC WBL for example).
Generally, full on resurrecting a Dungeon Denizen would be illegal, though there are permits for animating them in Solum as undead or in some other enthralled fashion. You may be able to get special permission through Atticus. If Puhrjan did get loose and start causing havoc and her appearance was tied to you, then you're spot on: your characters would likely be executed for the treasonous action of aiding the enemy to attack Solum.
Bringing back Puhrjan in town with her own will is potentially a huge risk, especially if it's a clandestine plan. The mob she could potentially gather with her Charming Gaze could cause a lot of problems if she was left to roam free, so you'd need to figure out a way to ensure she couldn't run amok if you decided to raise her without special permission.
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2022-05-31, 09:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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With said new information being confirmed perhaps it would be best IC if we were pulled aside and reminded of this so it flows more naturally? Abigale seeing said naga already trying to break free and seemingly only interested in living would listen to said logic as it is not like this enemy is just not resisting, not looking for a way out. It's clearly trying to just stay alive.
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2022-05-31, 09:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Perhaps. I don't have any agents in this dungeon which could do so as I don't want to commandeer a PC for exposition.
It might be against Abigail's ethics, but you could probably get by with some bribes as long as you have some way to keep Puhrjan in line.
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2022-05-31, 09:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-06-01, 02:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Gonna think on this tomorrow. I'm starting to lean towards maybe not taking her.
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2022-06-01, 05:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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I put it in since as the one who actually raises bodies Solstafir is the most likely to have come in touch with the law here.
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2022-06-03, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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We can always just use Speak With Dead per Spell Storing Item infusion if we want some more information out of the naga.
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2022-06-05, 07:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-06-05, 09:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Kill, Abigale was convinced
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2022-06-05, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Kill, Orchid was convinced too, but she won't participate in it.
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2022-06-05, 11:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Kill. Are alignments in play or are we defaulting to friend/enemy? I forgot.
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2022-06-05, 12:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Aegis' Dungeoncrawler OOC II
Alignments aren't in play, you're either aligned with Solum or Dungeon. If there's a Good or Evil requirement on a feat, class or similar, you can ignore it.
The big 16 is also in the first post of any of my OOC threads so general questions like this may have answers there too.
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2022-06-05, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Aegis' Dungeoncrawler OOC II
Brilliant. I can choose turn turn or rebuke for Levi next time he binds Tenebrous. And I can play his morality looser.