Mystic Muse's Mostly Mildly Mediocre Random Banter #238

[HalfTangible]

First contact will probably go poorly no matter what we run into.

[enderlord99]

Does that involve redefining the day to be 100 ksec long?

No, because it's only 86.4 ksec long.

[Lord Raziere]

First contact will probably go poorly no matter what we run into.

You have a way with words Halftangible, always know how to cheer people up and have fun, I feel better already.

[Fyraltari]

Let's be fair here. That's me like 95% of the time.

Metal.

The Little Black Fly from North Ontario-io?


Does that involve redefining the day to be 100 ksec long?

No, that's just absurd.

The length of a day matches our biological rythm, so it should be kept as is, it's the other time units that should go away.
Using the Latin dies as a root word, we could have a system like this:

The day would be divided into ten decidies, each decidies lasting two hours and 24 minutes.
The decidies is further divided into ten centidies, each lasting 14 minutes and 24 seconds.
Each centidies would be divided into ten millidies lasting 86.4 seconds.
Then you have decimillidies (8.64 seconds) a centimillidies (0.864 seconds).
Edit: okay, those last two would probably have more convenient names, because these are moutfuls.

Going the other way around, we'd group the days by tens (decadies, about a week and a half), hundreds (hectodies, sligthly more than three months), and thousands (kilodies, slightly less than two years and three quarters).

Of course, this would also imply other accomodation both scientific, such as redefining our units of speed (and others), and cultural, such as placing legal majority at 7 kilodies (a bit older than 19) or 8 (almost 22). But I'm sure these would be easy fix that can be done quickly.


Yes, I have spent some time thinking what kind of calendar an interstellar human civilization that is no longer tied to Earth's seasonal or Moon-related cycles would use.

[Metastachydium]

I'm sure there is a Yukon TV

That is correct. It is a streaming service provided by GCI.

From now on, all coutries must use the YY(YY)/MM/DD date format!

Don't forget to make everyone use SI units too!

Preach it! PREACH IT!

No, that's just absurd.

The length of a day matches our biological rythm, so it should be kept as is, it's the other time units that should go away.

I concur.

Using the Latin dies as a root word,

I wholeheartedly approve of that notion!

we could have a system like this:

The day would be divided into ten decidies, each decidies lasting two hours and 24 minutes.
The decidies is further divided into ten centidies, each lasting 14 minutes and 24 seconds.
Each centidies would be divided into ten millidies lasting 86.4 seconds.
Then you have decimillidies (8.64 seconds) a centimillidies (0.864 seconds).
Edit: okay, those last two would probably have more convenient names, because these are moutfuls.

Alternatively, we can take the "metric weight" route and use kilodies as the base unit. Admittedly, that would make dies something of a misnomer, which would be a pity.

Going the other way around, we'd group the days by tens (decadies, about a week and a half), hundreds (hectodies, sligthly more than three months), and thousands (kilodies, slightly less than two years and three quarters).

Of course, this would also imply other accomodation both scientific, such as redefining our units of speed (and others), and cultural, such as placing legal majority at 7 kilodies (a bit older than 19) or 8 (almost 22). But I'm sure these would be easy fix that can be done quickly.

Why, why. Their phenomenal flexibility even in their superb rigour is clearly among the charms of metric units. If kilodies does not fit some of our purposes, we need not employ it for those specific purposes. I'd recommend using 66 hectodies (i.e. 18,06 years) as the threshhold in this specific instance.

[Fyraltari]

I wholeheartedly approve of that notion!

Of course you wood.

, we can take the "metric weight" route and use kilodies as the base unit. Admittedly, that would make dies something of a misnomer, which would be a pity.

NEVAH!

Why, why. Their phenomenal flexibility even in their superb rigour is clearly among the charms of metric units. If kilodies does not fit some of our purposes, we need not employ it for those specific purposes. I'd recommend using 66 hectodies (i.e. 18,06 years) as the threshhold in this specific instance.

I dunno, I feel like people are attached to round numbers.

[DavidSh]

No, because it's only 86.4 ksec long.

You could call it a "dayye". Like calling a megagram a tonne, when an actual ton weighs either about 0.907 or 1.016 megagrams.

[Metastachydium]

Of course you wood.

Still herbaceous, sorry.

NEVAH!

I liked the way I phrased it better, but yeah, basically that.

I dunno, I feel like people are attached to round numbers.

How's 7 or 8 or somewhere between 7 and 8 rounder than 66?

[Fyraltari]

How's 7 or 8 or somewhere between 7 and 8 rounder than 66?

7 is rounder than 6.6. There's a reason no-one ever suggests a majority of 18.5 years.

[Peelee]

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Metal.No, that's just absurd.

The length of a day matches our biological rythm, so it should be kept as is, it's the other time units that should go away.
Using the Latin dies as a root word, we could have a system like this:

The day would be divided into ten decidies, each decidies lasting two hours and 24 minutes.
The decidies is further divided into ten centidies, each lasting 14 minutes and 24 seconds.
Each centidies would be divided into ten millidies lasting 86.4 seconds.
Then you have decimillidies (8.64 seconds) a centimillidies (0.864 seconds).
Edit: okay, those last two would probably have more convenient names, because these are moutfuls.

Going the other way around, we'd group the days by tens (decadies, about a week and a half), hundreds (hectodies, sligthly more than three months), and thousands (kilodies, slightly less than two years and three quarters).

Of course, this would also imply other accomodation both scientific, such as redefining our units of speed (and others), and cultural, such as placing legal majority at 7 kilodies (a bit older than 19) or 8 (almost 22). But I'm sure these would be easy fix that can be done quickly.


Yes, I have spent some time thinking what kind of calendar an interstellar human civilization that is no longer tied to Earth's seasonal or Moon-related cycles would use.

That seems needlessly complicated. Instead we should just change the definition of a second such that 100 seconds is a minute, 100 minutes is an hour, and so forth. It's a little messier with days and years but we could simplify a bit with thirteen 28 month days and have one Null Day per year (two on leap years). While not having base 10, that will at least standardize days of the week to dates, which would make scheduling much simpler and more intuitive.

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That seems needlessly complicated. Instead we should just change the definition of a second such that 100 seconds is a minute, 100 minutes is an hour, and so forth. It's a little messier with days and years but we could simplify a bit with thirteen 28 month days and have one Null Day per year (two on leap years). While not having base 10, that will at least standardize days of the week to dates, which would make scheduling much simpler and more intuitive.

Standardizing days of the week to days of the month by adding null days that are not part of the week breaks compatibility with well-established and widespread religious traditions that are bound to a seven-day week that never skips a day.

[Metastachydium]

7 is rounder than 6.6.

Which is why I recommended 66 hectodies rather than 6,6 kilodies, since neither unit maps seamlessly to Earth years and therefore we have no reason to use the latter over the former.

[Fyraltari]

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That seems needlessly complicated. Instead we should just change the definition of a second such that 100 seconds is a minute, 100 minutes is an hour, and so forth. It's a little messier with days and years but we could simplify a bit with thirteen 28 month days and have one Null Day per year (two on leap years). While not having base 10, that will at least standardize days of the week to dates, which would make scheduling much simpler and more intuitive.

Which is why I recommended 66 hectodies rather than 6,6 kilodies, since neither unit maps seamlessly to Earth years and therefore we have no reason to use the latter over the former.

Like I said upthread this system only makes sense for a space-faring civilization where the orbital mechanics of Earth are no longer relevant. As long as most of the population is still confined to this single planet (so for the far foreseeable future, if not forevermore) we should stick with solar/lunar years, months and the rest. Seasons are important.

I do agree that we could rework the months to make the while thing a tad more regular with a few null days, but at this point it'd be such a massive hassle, it'll have to wait until we remake our golbal civilization into something more sustenable.

[Bartmanhomer]

Happy Memorial Day everyone. So anyway, I stay home and relaxing today.

[Liquor Box]

The length of a day matches our biological rythm, so it should be kept as is, it's the other time units that should go away.

Do you reckon? I always feel like the day should be longer. I think a 26hr sleep/wake cycle would be good

[enderlord99]

Do you reckon? I always feel like the day should be longer. I think a 26hr sleep/wake cycle would be good

Like this?

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[Peelee]

Like I said upthread this system only makes sense for a space-faring civilization where the orbital mechanics of Earth are no longer relevant.

Ah. Revolution, then.

[enderlord99]

Ah. Revolution, then.

I presume that was meant as a pun, this time. Was it?

[Metastachydium]

Like I said upthread this system only makes sense for a space-faring civilization where the orbital mechanics of Earth are no longer relevant. As long as most of the population is still confined to this single planet (so for the far foreseeable future, if not forevermore) we should stick with solar/lunar years, months and the rest. Seasons are important.

I fail to see how a proper decimal system for measuring time would not make sense on Earth, but that aside and more importantly, I fail to see why a spacefaring civilization would absolutely have to use kilodies rather than hectodies to express the age of its members, especially if the former sounds incredibly clunky.

I do agree that we could rework the months to make the while thing a tad more regular with a few null days, but at this point it'd be such a massive hassle, it'll have to wait until we remake our golbal civilization into something more sustenable.

Why do we even need months?

I presume that was meant as a pun, this time. Was it?

Well, Earth is a solid of revolution.

[enderlord99]

Well, Earth is a solid of revolution.

More that it revolves around the sun.

[Metastachydium]

More that it revolves around the sun.

Ah, the Sun again! That fellow thinks everything revolves around 'em!
(DISCLAIMER: In actual fact, I really like the Sun and I'm a great fan of their works. The above remark is a lame joke that doesn't reflect my opinion on the second friendliest celestial body ever.)

[Anonymouswizard]

Ah, the Sun again! That fellow thinks everything revolves around 'em!

Somebody's losing their photosynthesis privileges!

[Metastachydium]

Somebody's losing their photosynthesis privileges!

Hey! I put up a disclaimer and everything!

[LaZodiac]

Happy Pride Month everyone! Hope you're all doing well today.

[Bartmanhomer]

Happy Pride Month everyone! Hope you're all doing well today.

You too, Zodi.

[Rater202]

Happy Pride Month everyone! Hope you're all doing well today.

Very well. My blood sugar has been in the "right where they want it" range for over a week and I'm usually closer to 80 than I am to 100.

Also, the third issue of the current Carnage mini-series came out today and it's a good one

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It's a bit of a cliche at this point, "carnage does something to get powred up so they can more effectively slaughter a bunch of people later" but it's fresh because... Cletus isn't Carnage right now.

Cletus Kassady is physically dead, but his mind and soul are loose in eh symbiote hive mind. He was piggybacking in the Carnage symbiote, but at the nd fo extreme Carnage his transferred his consciousness into Tony Stark's Extremebiote Armor, which is to say a Symbiote Dragon merged with the Iron Man Mark 70 something by the Extremis virus and then ****ed off.

Last we saw Cletus in person, in a one-shot anthology comics(that also included the prolog of this arc) he'd taken an antisocial homeless girl as his host and encouraged her to kill the street couple that took her in but abused and neglected her and was, in general, grooming her to grow up to be like him.

The Carnage Symbiote is miffed. It feels abandoned so it decides that Cletus was holding it back, so it dusts off an old idea that Cletus had and repurposes it for itself: It hunts down and murders Hyrdoman and the Spot, and, and tis is the interesting thing: Apparently, the Carnage symbiote has the power to create a "power core" by tearing a superhuman apart. In Hydroman it was a ball of water and in The Spot it was a black disc. By absorbing this "core" Carnage gains its powers. Absorbing Hydroman's powers makes Carnage's biomass more fluid and vastly magnifies its ability to adjust its mass and control its shapeshifting while absorbing the Spot's gave him the same portal creation powers Spot has.

As revealed in this issue, the plan is to combine those two powers with some tech o as to gain the power to travel the multiverse and go on a rampage slaughtering literal Gods across all of reality because it's pissed of that it and Cletus lost their shot at Godhood when Eddie Brock killed Knull.

Complicating the matter is a serial killer by the name of Kenneth Nealy, alias "The Artist," who is obsessed with Carnage and became active again after going into retirement years ago following the events of King in Black and started adding Knull's symbol to his "art projects" int he hopes of getting the symbiote's attention. He wants to be the new Carnage, but the Carnage Symbiote isn't looking for a new host right now... Still, he recruits Kenneth as an assistant under the guise of giving the man a chance to "impress" it and then alternates between insulting him an inferior serial killer and egging him on to greater depravity.

Then there's the detective who's been tracking The Artist, who almost gets blasted apart when he barges in on Carnage killing Hydroman(pulling Hydroman apart releases a lot of stored energy) and the Symbiote used a piece of itself to stitch the detective back together, which both saves the man's life and empowers his physical abilities to Spider-Man levels... It them forces Cletus Kassady'smemories on the main. Carnage says he did this to give Kenneth a challenge, but...

As of this issue, the detective has Cletus's voice in his head alternating between demanding that the man give into his rage and inflict violence on people or telling him what Carnage is up to, but it's not clear if this is the real Cletus reaching out through the hivemind or if it's a hallucination or some kind of alter caused by his brain trying to reconsile having a copy of Cletu's mind uploaded into it.

[Bartmanhomer]

So anyway I have created a new Facebook account today because my old Facebook account was locked because of security reasons. Well, long story short my older brother brought me a new smartphone for my birthday and I have to transfer all my apps from my old phone to my new phone. I tried to log in to Facebook but it didn't recognize my password because I was using a new phone. So it took me a few weeks to get through Facebook but I say "I screw this. I'm making a new account." So I started a new account from scratch.

[Anonymouswizard]

Happy Pride Month everyone! Hope you're all doing well today.

Eek, I've got to be proud for a whole month!? Even with LGBTQ+ things that's hard!


Currently trying to convince one of my partner's that she actually does want to see Lightyear with me. Because while I haven't seen a Pixar film since like Toy Story 3 this looks like pulpy kid's sci-fi, which is totally up my alley.

[LaZodiac]

Eek, I've got to be proud for a whole month!? Even with LGBTQ+ things that's hard!

Currently trying to convince one of my partner's that she actually does want to see Lightyear with me. Because while I haven't seen a Pixar film since like Toy Story 3 this looks like pulpy kid's sci-fi, which is totally up my alley.

Good luck!

And... r- really? You haven't seen... any of the Pixar films between Toy Story 3 and today? You're missing out my friend!

[Peelee]

Good luck!

And... r- really? You haven't seen... any of the Pixar films between Toy Story 3 and today? You're missing out my friend!

Eh. I can't even name any Pixar films between those. And I wasn't even terribly interested in TS3