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2022-04-03, 01:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Are You Playing 6: DLCs of Kevin Bacon
That's definitely a big chunk of it, but there's still some regressive choices and change-for-change's sake. The red UI being the most generally obvious. Speaking for myself and other new-ish players this was my first launch. I started playing WH2 on a free weekend in -checks steam achievements- April 2020. I'm generally aware that Troy and Rome rereleased somewhere in there, but I was uninterested in Troy once I found out it was Epic exclusive and didn't care about Rome at all. I mean I sadly expect major games to be released buggy messes at launch but I didn't preorder because I wanted to wait and see how bad it was. I think I bought day 5 of the first week, just long enough to see a couple unfiltered reviews and general reports come in.
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2022-04-03, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Are You Playing 6: DLCs of Kevin Bacon
I believe Origins took about five years plus planning, and Inquisition clearly wanted to be bigger than Origins, and so I'm guessing it faced another EA-enforced deadline.
But yeah, I'm not looking forward to Dragon Age 4 for exactly that reason. The talent that made me love the series has gone, and DA4 is starting to show the signs of Duke Nukem Forever syndrome. I'll likely pick it up with all the DLC when it's on sale for like Ł10 three or four years after eventual release. Until then I'll just wait until I can pick up the tabletop RPG book for more Dragon Age.
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2022-04-03, 03:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Are You Playing 6: DLCs of Kevin Bacon
Although it's always worth considering when a game appears to have taken X number of years how often it all got thrown away and started again in that time.
Cyberpunk 2077 came out six years after they announced it, but what was in the release product was probably more like 18 months of actual work, and Final Fantasy 15 was the same, announced as Versus 13 in 2006, reannounced as FF15 in 2013, and actually came out in 2016 but the game that came out was basically all made in the last two years of that by an almost completely different team with a different director.
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2022-04-03, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Are You Playing 6: DLCs of Kevin Bacon
Well, my entire weekend was basically me playing the DNF Duel beta test. And damn, if it's not a lot of fun. There's a few things I wish they'd do differently, but overall, the pacing of the game, the power of the options available to every character, the overall feel of it, the combos - everything's just really satisfying. A big part that doesn't get enough credit, I think, being the meter system. Rather than meter being a scarce resource you build up over the game and need to carefully decide when to spend, you start with 100 MP, and after use, it briefly stays lower, but then just automatically regenerates. Pretty quickly, too. So you're encouraged to use it quite a bit, and only punished if you over-use it. This is pretty nice, helps keep the feeling of being able to do powerful things often going.
It's selling me on one-button special moves in traditional fighting games, too. I do the motion inputs whenever I think of it (especially since most of them are just easy quarter-circles anyway), but it is nice to have the option to do them more quickly in a pinch, especially the reversals, and it doesn't feel like it hurts anything at all. Well, aside perhaps from making anti-airing easier, since most characters' reversals can act as an anti-air and you can't air block in this game, but eh, that's fine, it's not like people anti-airing with DPs is new; if more people can do it now, cool, the more the merrier.
Inquisitor and Dragon Knight remain my favorites, jockeying for position as potential mains. And Dragon Knight may be pulling ahead there. Inquisitor's pressure and combos are really satisfying, but I also love Dragon Knight's neutral options (giant sword swing special move, air fireball with fly cancels), and the pressure she can get off her little dragon buddy if you can make them respect that. I also found what seems to be a safe jump into multi-layered mixup off one of her easiest combo enders, so at that point she turns into quite the little blender.
Also really liking Kunoichi, Striker, and Ghost Blade. Striker is a rushdown monster with long combos, which is always fun; Kunoichi's bag of tricks is fun to play with, though I never did figure out any great combos with her; and Ghost Blade is a glass cannon. Can do big combos for good damage, zone well, and get strong pressure with his ghost, but he's the only character in the game without a real reversal, and that combined with his normals being a bit slow makes him awful on defense.
I was also playing Hitman some, and eh, I may be souring on him. I just can't find anything to do with him besides fairly basic stuff. He has big buttons and straightforward combos, but beyond that, eh. He's slow and doesn't feel like he has anything fancy compared to the others I'm playing. But oh well, if I don't play him in the full release, not going to be a big deal when I've got at least five other characters I'm enjoying, and more still unannounced.
The game definitely has some problems with its matchmaking though. Disconnects were happening way too often, whether I went with the PS4 or PS5 version of the beta, so I really hope they can get that ironed out. And the lobbies cap out at 9 players each, as opposed to the 64 that's been normal in other ArcSys games for a long time now, which makes it a lot harder to find games, necessitating more lobby-hopping to find someone who's looking instead of already in a match or spectating. I figure the full release will have a ranked mode, or something similar to Guilty Gear Strive's tower system maybe, but still, wish the lobbies were better there.
But yeah, outside of that, I had a blast, and can't wait for the full release come late June.Toph Pony avatar by Dirtytabs. Thanks!
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2022-04-03, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-04-04, 12:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-04-04, 12:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Are You Playing 6: DLCs of Kevin Bacon
You'd really think the TotalWar games would be more polished than they are considering that they release the same game every year. I enjoyed 3 kingdoms well enough, but I'm not supporting that franchise anymore until they actually bother making a new game instead of just (poorly) reskinning the same old slop.
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2022-04-04, 02:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Are You Playing 6: DLCs of Kevin Bacon
Just a point of order re: Warcraft being a ripoff of Warhammer. Warcraft was supposed to be a Warhammer game, I'd hardly call it a ripoff for a company to sell the game they were brought on to make after the original company backed out. Games Workshop backed out after seeing Blizzard's first test demo thinking it wouldn't sell, after asking for a test demo. Blizzard reworked the test demo, wrote their own lore, and sold it and Games Workshop kicked themselves when it broke out as a hit. Games Workshop didn't even pay for the work Blizzard did to secure the license, as promised.
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2022-04-04, 03:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Are You Playing 6: DLCs of Kevin Bacon
Not exactly. Blizzard was trying to get the rights to make Warhammer stuff and failed so they decided to market it as a "unique" product instead. Then they figured since they got away with it once, they may as well rip off 40k as well to make starcraft. If they tried the same thing today they'd get absolutely annihilated in court.
I grew up loving Blizzard and spent hundreds of hours in WoW and Warcraft 2/3 playing with friends, but they've always been an incredibly shady company.
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2022-04-04, 03:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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If you take their word for it, and of course they'd say this, Patrick Wyatt says that Games Workshop approached them and that after their experience working with DC on some stuff, were uncomfortable giving control over something they made that Games Workshop and that the initial idea was to make a game like Dune 2. Games Workshop (also a shady as hell company) denies this and says that Blizzard approached them with the tech demo and they were unhappy with Blizzard wanting creative control over the game, a thing Games Workshop is absolutely not a-ok with, and they didn't think it'd make money. Considering how both companies are suspect, I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. It's still a mischaracterization to call it a ripoff. Games Workshop is on the record as approaching Blizzard about a game. The details of the tech demo, pay, and all of that not so much.
Starcraft and Warhammer ripped off the same IP: Starship Troopers for their spacefaring version.
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2022-04-04, 04:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Huh. I didn't know all of the backstory, just whatever filtered down version I'd heard over the internet for years. That said my Warhammer knowledge is extremely shallow: I never got into the setting before playing TW:WH2. I have internet meme knowledge of 40k because I think it's impossible not to but didn't really know fantasy was a thing. Then I started reading about it and got pissed off about how they handled End Times 6 years after it happened and swore off ever getting involved beyond TW and Vermintide 2.
On a related note to both Warcraft/Warhammer and blatant ripoffs, I stumbled across Loria and have been unashamedly enjoying it. Described as homage classic RTS, it's basically Warcraft 2.5. It's got nearly identical music and visuals to WC2 but imports the hero system and spellcaster style from WC3. It's free on both GOG and Steam. Occasionally unstable, it tends to crash when first loading or sometimes on alt-tabbing. And if you're building when you save and load, your buildings are destroyed and you don't get the resources refunded. Still it's got some great cheesy voice acting and has been an absolute nostalgia blast for the price. Which again was free.Last edited by Thomas Cardew; 2022-04-04 at 04:33 AM.
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2022-04-04, 05:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Are You Playing 6: DLCs of Kevin Bacon
Warhammer took influence from a lot of things, so I'm sure there's some Starship Troopers in there somewhere. But I don't think it was the primary influence for any faction, and it's worth noting that Space Marine armour is based on Chaos Warrior Armour from WFB.
Now I'm not up to date on my 80s and 90s Warhammer lore, but I believe most factions were originally just WFB ones IN SPAAACE with an extra coating of evil. They then took on more influences as time went on.
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2022-04-04, 05:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-04-04, 06:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Are You Playing 6: DLCs of Kevin Bacon
Wait, we talking UCF propaganda or Imperium propaganda?
Having read the book, we kind of don't get enough details on the pseudo-arachnids* to form a complete picture. There's even disagreement over whether the book bugs have biotech ships and the ability to shoot plasma like in the films and cartoon or if they just use hardtech guns and ships (I'm on the hardtech side).
Oh, and *insert moaning about how book bugs have eight legs and three castes here*.Last edited by Anonymouswizard; 2022-04-04 at 06:13 AM.
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2022-04-04, 06:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-04-04, 07:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What Are You Playing 6: DLCs of Kevin Bacon
Yeah. Especially since they decided that all guards look like Cadians, who are starship troopers with early WW2 tanks. There's more influences, though. There's a lot of Dune, a bit of Star Wars, some Canticle for Leibowitz, bits and pieces of Lovecraft and most of the classical fantasy canon via Warhammer Fantasy (which in turn takes a lot of from History, plus Leiber, Howard, Lovecraft, Tolkien and everything else Gygax used, too).
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2022-04-04, 07:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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It's really become the sausage of media at this point. It's even turned back around to put back some of the old sausage back in and trying to package it as new sausage.
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2022-04-04, 08:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-04-04, 09:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Of course. I like 40k, I'm on board for it. At least as long as they don't pretend it's actually super serious.
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2022-04-04, 09:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-04-04, 09:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Same here. It now sits in my steam library completely unplayed. I feel no urgency. The game will get massive ammounts of content. Comparing it, freshly hatched, to the refined and mature Warhammer 2 is probably a bit unfair
I will probably pick it up when either Immortal Empires gets released or when the Main Campaign gets a bit more meat on its bones (Chaos Dwarfs would be a good start).
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2022-04-04, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-04-04, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-04-04, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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As far as I have experienced, there is definitely a subset of wh40k fans that might be described as "serious until actually confronted, haha".
I hope/believe it's not a big subset, though.
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2022-04-04, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Welcome, I hope you like it. You do have to beat your head against it for a bit, particularly at the beginning, because you are supposed to fail a bit at the start, for purely thematic reasons. Also because the initiative system is relatively unique, and takes a bit to adapt to.
You're definitely farther than I am, though I only get like 40 minutes to play a lot of days. I just got to the Domed City and met Cara. Mostly because I've exhausted most of the quests I can do around Edan, and am still like level 8.
I like how pretty much all the characters have different opinions on the different factions, and different interpretations of them and what they stand for. Makes the world feel inhabited by actual thinking people..
The Albs are pretty obviously the bad guys, but with them there's the separatists, and none of the other groups I've encountered are anywhere near as straightforward. It's nice to have the game's central choice be less good playthrough vs bad playthrough, and more a legitimate question of belief and preference.Blood-red were his spurs i' the golden noon; wine-red was his velvet coat,
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2022-04-04, 01:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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I just checked and Steam says I've played 39 hours--doesn't feel like it's been that long, TBH! I did try to go around all the major friendly cities as early as I could in order to pick up quests, since those are by far the best way of levelling up. Presumably if you've reached the Domed City you've also been to Origin, or haven't you found that yet?
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2022-04-04, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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I decided to give Inquisition a break and started Omega Ruby for the nostalgia hit (as Ruby was my first Pokémon).
If you'll excuse I've got to do the 'I've got a female mudkip' dance. I called her Nereid.
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2022-04-05, 07:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wait, what did my university do? O.o
Been watching a friend stream Hearts of Iron IV, except he has a mod installed called "Equestria at War" and it's hilarious to watch cute horses go to war with each other, and griffons, and reindeer, and... it's quite an involved mod, changing everything about the game. Lots of different scenarios to play out.
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2022-04-05, 09:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-04-05, 09:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm trying something called the Library of Ruina, which is kinda fun. It's a single player card based RPG, with some visual novel sections for storytelling in between. It's apparently from the south korean team that did Lobotomy Corp., though I didn't play it.
It's not bad, overall. There's definitely more thought put into the story and setting than usual, which is nice. The tactical aspects are a bit iffy -- it feels like there are more details in parts that don't need it, and less in parts that do. Overall it's enjoyable, though the writing does the carrying a bit, IMO.