Grrl Power VII: Let Me Explain For The Next Thirty Comics!

[halfeye]

Also, yes a ton of sand is about 22 cubic feet.

I presume they meant that the sand in a sandstorm is a lot less dense due to being mixed up with a lot of air.

[Dragonus45]

I presume they meant that the sand in a sandstorm is a lot less dense due to being mixed up with a lot of air.

Considering I specified sand not in the sandstorm, why do people keep talking about sand in the sandstorm?

[lord_khaine]

Also, see above about magic user who could help cover her while she captures sand that is part of the sandstorm if needed. It's right there in the comic. Also, yes a ton of sand is about 22 cubic feet.

As someone already pointed out, the part you quoted talked about sand in a sandstorm. So its very much not going to fit 22 cubic feet.

Considering I specified sand not in the sandstorm, why do people keep talking about sand in the sandstorm?

Because -you- specifically have been talking about catching the sand Darude is in.

"I think what might happen is she catches the sand he is "inside" of and hopefully with so little to work with within the shield itself he is less dangerous while she moves him around."

You also spoke about industrial sized heaps of sand. Just about the only ones of those are in Darude.
Certainly if you want to fill even ½ the shield without spending a couple days sweeping the base.

[The Glyphstone]

I am missing something here. How is the volume of sand Sydney can capture inside her shield helpful to the fight, is she going to try and carry Darude's sand into orbit one scoop at a time and hope he can't replenish it from the ground?

[Traab]

I think the point was, she can scoop and move a literal ton of sand per trip out of his presumed range? That would at least marginally speed up his loss of fuel but its like trying to drain a lake with a bucket. Sure a ton SOUNDS like a significant amount, but its really not that much on this scale.

[Dragonus45]

As someone already pointed out, the part you quoted talked about sand in a sandstorm. So its very much not going to fit 22 cubic feet.

Because -you- specifically have been talking about catching the sand Darude is in.

"I think what might happen is she catches the sand he is "inside" of and hopefully with so little to work with within the shield itself he is less dangerous while she moves him around."

You also spoke about industrial sized heaps of sand. Just about the only ones of those are in Darude.
Certainly if you want to fill even ½ the shield without spending a couple days sweeping the base.

See below, bolded my specific responses to you for emphasis. Don't put words in my mouth.

See above. Alternatively I wonder if she could scoop up some industrial sized heap of sand and just start carting the sand he isn't inside away while the shield cuts him off from it. Regardless I think abusing the shields ability to cut off things from the outside on a metaphysical level is likely the trick here.

Is it? There is all kinds of sand just around on the ground or at the outside. Also, see above about magic user who could help cover her while she captures sand that is part of the sandstorm if needed. It's right there in the comic. Also, yes a ton of sand is about 22 cubic feet.

I think the point was, she can scoop and move a literal ton of sand per trip out of his presumed range? That would at least marginally speed up his loss of fuel but its like trying to drain a lake with a bucket. Sure a ton SOUNDS like a significant amount, but its really not that much on this scale.

Considering that's effectively Maxima's plan, to just blast the sand endlessly until there isn't anything left, Sydney with the several tons of sand she could fit into her shield and take away from the fighting could speed the process up greatly.

[DataNinja]

Oh, good. Looks like we're getting no answers in exchange for... this, with a really awkward bit of "oh, good, that's really really creepy and wrong and why are you not getting consent?" in the commentary.. Not a fan here. At all.

[lord_khaine]

See below, bolded my specific responses to you for emphasis. Don't put words in my mouth.

Im not putting any words into your mouth. Your doing that yourself just fine.

See above. Alternatively I wonder if she could scoop up some industrial sized heap of sand and just start carting the sand he isn't inside away while the shield cuts him off from it. Regardless I think abusing the shields ability to cut off things from the outside on a metaphysical level is likely the trick here.

Considering that's effectively Maxima's plan, to just blast the sand endlessly until there isn't anything left, Sydney with the several tons of sand she could fit into her shield and take away from the fighting could speed the process up greatly.

This alone covers it just fine.

As has repeatedly been pointed out. The sand is in the freaking sandstorm.
Thats the only place there is sand on a industrial scale. There isnt anywhere else for Sydney to 'just' get several tons of sand.

Though as such, there isnt as such a place in the sandstorm either, its spread out there.
And to compound the issue, its not like Sydney has any way to pick up sand on a industrial scale anyway.

[Dragonus45]

As has repeatedly been pointed out. The sand is in the freaking sandstorm.
Thats the only place there is sand on a industrial scale. There isnt anywhere else for Sydney to 'just' get several tons of sand.

Ok I guess I still need to repeat myself though. There is sand everywhere, not just in the sandstorm. It is literally right there, in the comic, visually apparent for all to see.

Though as such, there isnt as such a place in the sandstorm either, its spread out there.
And to compound the issue, its not like Sydney has any way to pick up sand on a industrial scale anyway.

She has a sizable bubble that can fit several tons of sand inside of it.

Oh, good. Looks like we're getting no answers in exchange for... this, with a really awkward bit of "oh, good, that's really really creepy and wrong and why are you not getting consent?" in the commentary.. Not a fan here. At all.

Yea that commentary took a funny scene of Dabbler convincing some super to use their powers for some fun kinky shenanigans and turned it into something truly gross and heinous.

[Traab]

Yeah at first I was like, "Huh?" Then i read the rest of the commentary and went, "Yeah ok the reaction here makes sense." I mean, just leave it at "Dabbler was fangirling out over the possibilities for fun and sweaty times kronas power grants" and leave out specifics so its more left to the imagination. That would have been a much better option to take. Because yeah we can all see dabbler just drooling over the thought and probably has an encyclopedia of ideas of ways to make things kinky and great. We dont need to get into niche and risky fetishes that should involve two consenting adults with safe words and such setup beforehand.

[Shining Wrath]

So Dabbler messed with Krona's mind which caused her to mess with Leon's mind, without consent all the way along the line.

*Sigh*.

Can we get back to Halo and Maxima versus Sandman?

[Traab]

So Dabbler messed with Krona's mind which caused her to mess with Leon's mind, without consent all the way along the line.

*Sigh*.

Can we get back to Halo and Maxima versus Sandman?

Nah, dabbler actually didnt do much other than wax eloquent on how awesome for sex kronas powers are. I put full blame on krona for anything she has done. She might have been inspired by dabbler rambling, but the choice was hers. But yeah, id rather see it go back to the important stuff.

*EDIT* Also, this may cause trouble for her long term. She is already under pretty heavy observation due to her reality altering power, and using your ability on an ARCHON employee might end badly if discovered.

[Shining Wrath]

Especially for purposes of getting sex out of them.

[sihnfahl]

Oh, it gets worse if you read the Artist Notes.

Dabbler didn't do anything but TALK dirty.

Krona, however? She hacked herself AND Leon, so that if someone's in the mood, they both are!

Like slipping an aphrodisiac into someone's drink if you're in the mood. Only more subtle and undetectable unless you know how to see reality hacks.

[TeChameleon]

Getting to this a little later, and there's a clarification that the link is one-way- Krona only hacked herself to echo Leon. Maybe a bit weird, maybe just convenient, but it doesn't seem to cross any boundaries that I can think of..?

Granted, I have no idea what the actual point of this is, unless the author's apparent wish to actually be doing erotica, not superheroes, is kicking in again

... yeah, not here for Sex Lives of the Rich and Super, thanks. If it keeps going down this route, my interest is going to fade rapidly.

[Traab]

Getting to this a little later, and there's a clarification that the link is one-way- Krona only hacked herself to echo Leon. Maybe a bit weird, maybe just convenient, but it doesn't seem to cross any boundaries that I can think of..?

Granted, I have no idea what the actual point of this is, unless the author's apparent wish to actually be doing erotica, not superheroes, is kicking in again

... yeah, not here for Sex Lives of the Rich and Super, thanks. If it keeps going down this route, my interest is going to fade rapidly.

Ok, if its one way like that, that removes pretty much all the squick. It still feels a little strange, like she feels as if she should always be in the mood when "her man" is. You can chase that rabbit hole down to a fairly dark and misogynistic pathway, but that may be looking into it further than dave thought about it. He may have just gone, "Synchronized horny! Thats awesome!" And left it at that. But yeah, while I dont mind seeing comics that explore the personal lives of the characters a bit, not in the middle of a fricking super battle dave!

[sihnfahl]

Getting to this a little later, and there's a clarification that the link is one-way- Krona only hacked herself to echo Leon.

I believe his clarification is thus:

It's one way so that if Leon's in the mood, she is, and if she's in the mood, Leon is.

But it's not TWO way as that would cause a feedback loop until they're both so horny they'll do it in public.

So, yeah, Krona gets in the mood, Leon doesn't get that '... but my MMORPG', he gets 'Let's go'
And when Leon's in the mood, Krona isn't so much 'not tonight, dear, I got a headache'

But yeah, I'm reading this as a: "Okay, the original idea I had for Sydney's Darude solution wasn't as good as I thought it was and way too fridge logic, so here's ... horny filler."

[The Glyphstone]

Maybe a little filler, but my read on this is that Sydney's solution to Darude requires Krona's abilities in some fashion and this is right before Sydney interrupts their imminent fun.

[Dragonus45]

Maybe a little filler, but my read on this is that Sydney's solution to Darude requires Krona's abilities in some fashion and this is right before Sydney interrupts their imminent fun.

Could be, her powers are even more hax then Sydney's. I was expecting a funny background event with Arianna back there myself.

[Keltest]

Maybe a little filler, but my read on this is that Sydney's solution to Darude requires Krona's abilities in some fashion and this is right before Sydney interrupts their imminent fun.

This is where I was reading it too. Its late for them, theyre doing Significant Other Private Things during their downtime, then Sydney shows a mastery of comedic timing.

[Shining Wrath]

This is where I was reading it too. Its late for them, theyre doing Significant Other Private Things during their downtime, then Sydney shows a mastery of comedic timing.

Dave did talk about the transit time from Mozambique to ArcSwat, and we do know Halo had to tone it down to keep her max speed classified.
Maybe it's time to reveal her max speed and head to ArcSwat (suborbital ballistic trajectory to avoid sonic booms?) and collect Krona at the comedically appropriate moment of maximum frustration.

[Rydiro]

Ok, if its one way like that, that removes pretty much all the squick. It still feels a little strange, like she feels as if she should always be in the mood when "her man" is.

It is certainly not a mind-r*** anymore, but still nonconsented mind-reading. She reads leons thoughts and echoes them.
I mean, so does Dabbler (sensing horniness), but the Succubus can't turn off her nutrition.

[Dragonus45]

It is certainly not a mind-r*** anymore, but still nonconsented mind-reading. She reads leons thoughts and echoes them.
I mean, so does Dabbler (sensing horniness), but the Succubus can't turn off her nutrition.

That's a stretch, just because Dabbler can see and understand things outside the norm of our senses doesn't make what she does a violation any more then me seeing a person smile without meaning too is unconsensually reading their mind. Sure just about everything else about the situation is ****ed and I blame Dabbler from the ground up, but this part is in the clear.

[lord_khaine]

Well.. yeah its more reading emotions than thoughs.
And not even conciously reading them. As she isnt aware of the source, just that she is in the mood for some quality time.

New Comic.

Alright i confess this twist really hooked me.
So all this was actually a distraction?

Max is tied up fighting an opponent who can stall her for hours.
While someone else raids Archon for god knows what?

[Traab]

At first I was amused by the big red button and rappelling people, but it makes sense in hindsight. If my house loses service its an annoyance. If a government building full of lord knows what sort of important info and people is suddenly cut off from the world, that can be a sign of imminent invasion. Leon had BETTER jump on the alarm button for that. Better there be a dozen false alarms than he delay the alert for 5 seconds when there could be or are incoming. Also, at first I thought those were super IT people coming in. Look, I just woke up and im tired. But yeah, magic yourself up some pants krona, you are probably going to need them shortly. Glad we got a reality warper literally in the server room, could come in handy till the rest of archon gets ready to respond.

[Rydiro]

At first I was amused by the big red button and rappelling people, but it makes sense in hindsight. If my house loses service its an annoyance. If a government building full of lord knows what sort of important info and people is suddenly cut off from the world, that can be a sign of imminent invasion. Leon had BETTER jump on the alarm button for that. Better there be a dozen false alarms than he delay the alert for 5 seconds when there could be or are incoming. Also, at first I thought those were super IT people coming in. Look, I just woke up and im tired. But yeah, magic yourself up some pants krona, you are probably going to need them shortly. Glad we got a reality warper literally in the server room, could come in handy till the rest of archon gets ready to respond.

Its not just the internet connections. They are jamming all (external and internal) wireless comms too. Leon probably knows the redundancies and concludes enemy action is a highly probable cause for this.

[Radar]

I do not think we have seen that flaming head guy ever before. I wonder if he might be connected to the group that abducted Concretia and Sydney. They were clearly organized pretty well and had some serious beef with ARCHON. Whoever it is, I think the timing is not a coincidence - I assume they did wait until most of the top-tier supers are busy elsewhere. Still, unless the head honcho is super-powerful, this attack cannot end well for the intruders. At most they could attempt a quick smash and grab operation or maybe they hope to get a lot of civilian hostages before supers retaliate.

[lord_khaine]

Good point on the most likely suspects.
It does have to be a fairly major organisation to pull something like this off.
And its to crude for Deus i think.

As for what they want? Yeah i think smash&grab sounds likely.
Archon should have all manner of priceless things at their HQ.
Gear, secrets, supers.

[Dragonus45]

Interesting page, things are heating up in more ways then one. Zulu Zulu Zulu is a Honor Harrington reference btw. At least that's where I know it from, I don't know if it was itself a reference to some other story or something.

[Traab]

Its also a good explanation for why leon is always in that room outside of parties or whatever. They need someone right there to react to being cutoff like they are. Now, all that being said, while yes, a lot of their heavy hitters are gone, max, sydney, dabbler, and anvil, they still have hiro, harem, math, and possibly the recent grads. Along with achilles, who is a great delay tactic with legs, amorphus and heatwave. So the ambushers better move quick because they have maybe a minute and a half before an organized response is setup and in action. Oh yeah, and whoever else is on grounds with powers from spellcasters to arclight/dark/aegis.