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    And somehow he still regularly managed to get snookered by a guy with a freeze ray.

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    Conclusion? Freeze Ray Op. Max should be glad the aliens only had a stasis beam.
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    The Flash cannot normally run through obstacles. Currently the battle is inside a building. Stairs and similar things give advantage to the flier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    The Flash cannot normally run through obstacles. Currently the battle is inside a building. Stairs and similar things give advantage to the flier.
    Really? I don't know much about the comics, but he got the ability to run through solid objects pretty early in the TV show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillianHawkeye View Post
    Really? I don't know much about the comics, but he got the ability to run through solid objects pretty early in the TV show.
    As I recall, its something that (some versions of) the Flash can do, but it usually takes some concentration and time for him to do it right, which makes it less viable as an off the cuff combat technique. By and large, Flash also really, really doesnt want to have to go all out to stop a villain, and his villains really dont want to push him that far, because that tends to end up with a villain slammed into a solid object at several times the speed of sound until he's paste. So people usually play nice with the Flash.
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    The Flash cannot normally run through obstacles. Currently the battle is inside a building. Stairs and similar things give advantage to the flier.
    Honestly being inside a building is a disadvantage for the flier. Cellings gets in the way of your 3D mobility.

    While just about every itteration of the Flash is able to run on walls and cellings.
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    Attention Dave: don't mention that there's a "real team" and then not show us the real team. Enough of stupid goon squad.
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    So. Halo's mystery plan, subject of so much speculation, is finally revealed.
    Turns out the reason there was so much discussion, is that there isnt anything that will work without author fiat.
    Well. Assuming this actually works.

    I do call author fiat on this thing being big enough to matter.
    And if its big enough to matter. How the heck Darude overlooked it.
    Thats basically overlooking someone replacing the carpet beneath you during a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    So. Halo's mystery plan, subject of so much speculation, is finally revealed.
    Turns out the reason there was so much discussion, is that there isnt anything that will work without author fiat.
    Well. Assuming this actually works.

    I do call author fiat on this thing being big enough to matter.
    And if its big enough to matter. How the heck Darude overlooked it.
    Thats basically overlooking someone replacing the carpet beneath you during a fight.
    Well presumably he was busy trying to murder Maxima. And Max really only needs a little bit of time of him being unable to replenish his sand to just come in and incapacitate him. Possibly lethally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    So. Halo's mystery plan, subject of so much speculation, is finally revealed.
    Turns out the reason there was so much discussion, is that there isnt anything that will work without author fiat.
    Well. Assuming this actually works.

    I do call author fiat on this thing being big enough to matter.
    And if its big enough to matter. How the heck Darude overlooked it.
    Thats basically overlooking someone replacing the carpet beneath you during a fight.
    It seems Darude is really more "sandstorm" than "sand". He pulls sand in to replenish himself, rather than just being all the sand everywhere. He can't feel the sand, it's just his resource - if the "obsidian laserdisc" was done quickly enough he would only be aware of the problem once he tried to pull more sand in - i.e. kind of like the final battle in Big Hero Six.

    Also it worked last time. Maxima glassed the desert for miles around, which was sufficient to prevent Darude from reforming.

    My biggest issue with the plan is that we know what happens when the PPO interacts with sand. You get a sandsplosion due to the beam not being just a heat gun. Maybe since the rapidfire mode unlock Sydney has aperture controls on the beam as well, allowing for a wider, less explody variant.
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    So busy with Max he could miss Sydney doing freaking terraforming with a giant laser? right beneath his feet?
    Thats about cartoon level unaware of what goes around him.

    Darude has enough control over his sand to try and force it into Max's lung.
    But we are still expected to believe he overlooked the giant freaking laser flying in circles beneath his feet?
    That the ground around him slowly turns purple?
    And that he has increasingly less access to sand?

    Its not that glassing the desert worked, that im objecting to.
    But that it was possible to get away with it uninterupted.
    The scale of this is hard to estimate. But it clearly have to be a couple square kilometers.
    Thats not done swiftly. Last it took Max 4 hours to reach that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    So busy with Max he could miss Sydney doing freaking terraforming with a giant laser? right beneath his feet?
    Thats about cartoon level unaware of what goes around him.

    Darude has enough control over his sand to try and force it into Max's lung.
    But we are still expected to believe he overlooked the giant freaking laser flying in circles beneath his feet?
    That the ground around him slowly turns purple?
    And that he has increasingly less access to sand?

    Its not that glassing the desert worked, that im objecting to.
    But that it was possible to get away with it uninterupted.
    The scale of this is hard to estimate. But it clearly have to be a couple square kilometers.
    Thats not done swiftly. Last it took Max 4 hours to reach that point.
    The way Max speaks about this, Darude does not seem to constantly replenish himself with sand - this action probably requires a lot of focus from him. So as long as he did not pull for more sand recently, he could very well be unaware of what was going on well below him. Considering that he is in the middle of a duel with Maxima he really has no luxury of not focusing on the opponent the whole time. And with all the dust in the air, it would have been difficult to take an incidental glance either.
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    Is it possible that Darude can't see through his own sandstorm? It's like seeing through your own body in a sense.

    So he's in there, somewhere, fighting Maxima, and all around him is a cloud of reduced visibility.
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    Why is the ground purple when the sand wasn't purple?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    Is it possible that Darude can't see through his own sandstorm? It's like seeing through your own body in a sense.

    So he's in there, somewhere, fighting Maxima, and all around him is a cloud of reduced visibility.
    Through his own sand he can probably feel (otherwise it would be a pretty useless superpower), but if he needs particular effort to make sand his own, not all the dust lifted by the fight would be his sand.
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    Why is the ground purple when the sand wasn't purple?
    I'm really not sure to be honest. In the notes Dave refers to what Sidney made as obsidian but that would typically be black - decidedly not purple. Still, I would expect any kind of glass with less pronounced color. And frankly, with the scale of this operation, I am not sure if the melted sand would cool down fast enough to solidify just yet.

    Out of curiosity: does anyone know, what kind of mineral Sydney would actually produce by rapidly overheating sand?
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    My two minutes of Internet research tell me that obsidian is exclusively made by the cooling of lava and has nothing to do with melted sand.
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    As pointed out in the comments, back when Maxima was testing Sydney's shield, it also made purple glass. Seems to just be what the art looks like in this comic for that.
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    It probably has to do with the color scheme of the comic. Regular black wouldnt look right on such a backdrop or something along those lines. And yes, 10 square kilometers turned to glass without either maxima or darude noticing? Sus. Especially since she had to detour around infrastructure to avoid doing cataclysmic damage to the country and its lines of supply and such. She can move many times the speed of sound, thats still a LOT of surface area to scour. Plus, her beam is pretty small in size considering it split a tank in half instead of leaving only the edges remaining. Like a foot or two wide at best. So unless she unlocked a wide beam like the flat setting on a garden hose, i call shenanigans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    It probably has to do with the color scheme of the comic. Regular black wouldnt look right on such a backdrop or something along those lines. And yes, 10 square kilometers turned to glass without either maxima or darude noticing? Sus. Especially since she had to detour around infrastructure to avoid doing cataclysmic damage to the country and its lines of supply and such. She can move many times the speed of sound, thats still a LOT of surface area to scour. Plus, her beam is pretty small in size considering it split a tank in half instead of leaving only the edges remaining. Like a foot or two wide at best. So unless she unlocked a wide beam like the flat setting on a garden hose, i call shenanigans.
    Yes, she'd have to have the firespray mode's aperture controls active on the beam to make wide passes. A 10km-diameter circle is like 78 million square meters. If she could only glass a 1-meter wide strip of desert with the laser, she'd have to travel at 78 thousand kph, or Mach 63, and it'd still take an hour. If she could glass 100-meter-wide strips, she could do it flying at Mach 2 in around 20 minutes.

    Also obsidian is glass, rock that cooled too quickly to crystallize. Molten sand cools to glass, glass with all kinds of impurities in it becomes more opaque and more colored. So for all I know molten desert sand would cool to a violet color.
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    Considering that he is in the middle of a duel with Maxima he really has no luxury of not focusing on the opponent the whole time. And with all the dust in the air, it would have been difficult to take an incidental glance either.
    He is one of the only people in the world who have that luxury.
    But he absolutely could stop for a 2-3 min smoke break in the middle of the fight if he could find a big enough cigarette.
    He is the size of a geografic feature. Dodging is -not- a thing. Max is going to hit him no matter what.

    Also the faster she is flying, the more absurd the energy requirement for her cutting beam becomes.
    If we say a layer of obsidian 2 mm deep, and 10 square km done in 20 min. minutte. Then its 20 m3 sand done in 20 min. Or 1 m3 of sand per minutte.
    Well i guess thats actually not unreasonable for an energy output.
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    The more confusing part to me is how has the desert cooled enough to form obsidian? Sydney may well have sufficient energy output to melt the surface of a 10km diameter circle of savannah (they are not in a desert, there's no desert for hundreds of miles in any direction), but both the air above that and the soil below it are going to be good insulators, it'll take a bit to cool down. There ought to be just a giant glowing yellow smear on the landscape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechalich View Post
    The more confusing part to me is how has the desert cooled enough to form obsidian? Sydney may well have sufficient energy output to melt the surface of a 10km diameter circle of savannah (they are not in a desert, there's no desert for hundreds of miles in any direction), but both the air above that and the soil below it are going to be good insulators, it'll take a bit to cool down. There ought to be just a giant glowing yellow smear on the landscape.
    I think by this point we have confirmed that exactly zero percent of this whole thing makes sense from any angle whatsoever. Superman could have done this because the dude can basically heat vision everything in his field of vision at once if he wants, and has enough control to perform brain surgery with it as well. So he could fly high, look at the surrounding area, and heat blast it all at once to glass. Sydney does not have that option. Honestly, the ONLY part of this that makes sense to have her do instead of maxima is the worry about collateral. Max can explode the area into glass, but there are a lot of roads and farms and such all over the place that would be destroyed by such a thing. But that just means realistically the entire plan should be tossed.

    Ok so this being stupid and making no sense aside, who wants to take bets on how deus will react to the glass lake thing?
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    It's a comic about pretty people doing amazing things, not a science tutorial.
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    Well that was anti climactic.
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    It was anti climatic. And honestly also lame.
    The size of the idiot ball given to Darude was staggering. Not only did he fail to notice about 10 km2 of geographic feature forming beneath his feet.
    He also waited on refreshing sand until he was basically on the brink of going OOS.

    who wants to take bets on how deus will react to the glass lake thing?
    But well Deus is certainly not going to mind.
    This is a chance to be gracious for the help given in protecting his country and productive facility.
    So he will officially thank everyone involved. Possibly even hand out a small medal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    It was anti climatic. And honestly also lame.
    The size of the idiot ball given to Darude was staggering. Not only did he fail to notice about 10 km2 of geographic feature forming beneath his feet.
    He also waited on refreshing sand until he was basically on the brink of going OOS.



    But well Deus is certainly not going to mind.
    This is a chance to be gracious for the help given in protecting his country and productive facility.
    So he will officially thank everyone involved. Possibly even hand out a small medal.
    Eh, how much attention could you spare to the landscape if Maxima was trying to beat you to death?
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    Eh, how much attention could you spare to the landscape if Maxima was trying to beat you to death?
    I could spare 100% as it would not matter.

    Darude can also spare 100% as getting smacked dont really affect him.

    Also there is a difference between sparing attention. And spotting if someone are changing the carpet beneath your feets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord_khaine View Post
    I could spare 100% as it would not matter.

    Darude can also spare 100% as getting smacked dont really affect him.

    Also there is a difference between sparing attention. And spotting if someone are changing the carpet beneath your feets.
    To be fair, the carpet is being changed while you are flying. It's more akin to someone working on the plumbing in the crawl space beneath the house while you're having a running gun battle on multiple floors.

    And getting smacked does affect him; it's how Maxima "got him burned down", previous strip.
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    Waiting to control more sand is kind of a strategic choice too be honest. If he diverts to ground level to gather more sand or however he has to take control of it, it leaves maxima free to wide angle blast him and his current supply, removing a lot in one go. If he waits till he is almost out, then he loses the least amount of current sand grabbing the next wave of it. At least, thats the best argument I can come up with. I imagine he cant just blink and make the desert appear in midair, there is probably some sort of thing he has to do to take control of a vast amount of it.

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    To be fair, the carpet is being changed while you are flying. It's more akin to someone working on the plumbing in the crawl space beneath the house while you're having a running gun battle on multiple floors.

    And getting smacked does affect him; it's how Maxima "got him burned down", previous strip.
    From what dave said, she needs to destroy his sand to the point where he cant sublimate his body into the element before she can properly smack him one. Think Pica from One Piece. He can take over mt rushmore and animate it, but its not his real body. His real body is contained somewhere within it but until you chop it down to sub human size, you cant really hurt him. Thats what she was doing all this time, burning sand till he couldnt use it and reducing his sandstorm form till he was basically mostly human then POW! Right in the kisser!
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    It's also worth considering that he may have been intentionally throwing the fight. For instance, if this was one of Deus' ploys.
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