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2022-05-16, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
Very good point, I don't know how I skipped factoring this in... but I suspect some of it may also depend on how omniscient TDO is, given Redcloak's tendency to treat even TDO as being on a "need to know" basis.
On a closely-related note, is TDO the boss who doesn't look too much into anything as long as you tell him what he wants to hear? Or has he been keeping an eye on Redcloak all along, and he's been putting up with what Redcloak thinks are clever schemes (to act in "TDO's best interest" even if it might conflict with what TDO thinks he wants) because he's willing to wait and see?
I think the latter would be far more satisfying (and congruent with "Don't screw this up")... but that's just me, and I'm absolutely not the Giant's high priest who understands his will or anything. (^_~)
Possibly-dumb question: Has the Giant ever indicated they have any meaning, other than what I would guess is "something (often a memory) being recounted, therefore they're putting their own spin on it which may or may not be reliable"?
Ha. Nice, and it would be funny. I think it'd be worth a moment of distraction from the story, but hard to be sure with so many reveals around the corner.
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2022-05-16, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
There are multiple exceptions scattered across many sourcebooks. Most likely in my eyes is that Xykon may either have the Metamagic Sorcerer ACF or that Xykon may have the Sudden Metamagic feat line. I'm not saying he does, mind, just that it's not at all beyond the realm of reasonableness. Additionally, Mr. Burlew may simply not care to bring that rule up. I don't believe we've ever had anyone in the comic talk about the drawbacks of being a spontaneous caster since we have no protagonist spont. 9casters and Elan's PrC means he's not even much of a 6caster anymore. With 3e now two editions out of date, that piece of minutiae may be so irrelevant that it's just not worth considering, particularly in the context that 5e (rightfully, imo) ended up making metamagic a core feature of the sorcerer and not one of the wizard at all.
On the other hand, who knows, maybe in the final battle Vaarsuvius will find some way to abuse Xykon's limitations on spontaneous metamagic to give Roy a better shot at using Spellsunder or whatever that was called.
I'd like to offer an important possibility for (e):
In some senses, the Dark One is the final antagonist, since he is both the heart of the solution to the gods' problem and also a metaphorical snarl in his own right, an emergent tangle from their poorly-conceived games of life and death. As he is also a god, it may simply be more dramatic not to have revealed him in all his splendor at this time. We've seen Thor's presentation of him, but that's not really the same thing.
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2022-05-16, 03:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
That gets into matters of definition. Brain-dead, I'll agree with you. Heart stopped and restarted, stuff like that, there are real-world people with a count well above 1.
It was here.
The Spellsplinter Maneuver.
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2022-05-16, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
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2022-05-16, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
I made a webcomic, featuring absurdity, terrible art, and alleged morals.
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2022-05-16, 05:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-16, 05:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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I made a webcomic, featuring absurdity, terrible art, and alleged morals.
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2022-05-16, 06:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-16, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-16, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
Cuthalion's art is the prettiest art of all the art. Like my avatar.
Number of times Roland St. Jude has sworn revenge upon me: 2
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2022-05-16, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-17, 05:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-17, 07:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wouldn't it be, though? I'm gonna have to revisit all my theories and suggestions on this in a few years.
The story still has a long way to go.
Depending on how various parts of the afterlife work (and what we know about the one we've seen in any depth), time perception may not be all that accurate from there.
Crayons really mean that it's a visualization of a story someone is telling. It does not mean that story is automatically not true or is suspicious in some other way. (In short, I agree with you.)
I think that's pretty much it. Just a sign that we're not witnessing objective events but someone's recollection of them.
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2022-05-17, 08:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
I applaud the Giant for pointing out that writing can be like magic. The creative types on the forum (of which I am not one) surely agree.
I still think ambushing Xykon now is the wrong approach, because the goal is to get Redcloak to lock the final gate. Ambushing him and Oona now, when Xykon is not around, has a better chance of success, right?
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2022-05-17, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Alright, but if they end up on the surface of a sphere (planet in the rift or Xykon's astral fortress) I'm going to count all but one point on those spheres as south of their current location.Maybe, but then they'd have to worry about Xykon ambushing them and negotiate with Redcloak while he still believes Xykon might rescue him.
And while it's less important than the gate stuff, Xykon is still a problem that needs to be dealt with all by himself.The thing is the Azurites don't use a single color; they use a single hue. The use light blue, dark blue, black, white, glossy blue, off-white with a bluish tint. They sky's the limit, as long as it's blue.
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2022-05-17, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-17, 10:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-17, 10:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Spoiler: DStP book exclusive stripCan somebody please remind me of the wording of this prediction? Does Sangwaan predict Belkar will actually die in the process of saving Hinjo's life? Or if it's a flashback, did the prediction happen before Belkar saved Hinjo's life from poison arrow rogue guy up on the battlements?
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2022-05-17, 11:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-17, 01:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
In order to serve his god, Redcloak needs a powerful arcane caster. Nothing will make him more likely to listen to Durkon a second time than destroying Xykon - because even if he starts to reform from his phylactery, he now knows Redcloak betrayed him and his phylactery is not safe in his Astral Plane fortress. At a minimum he's going to be less cooperative.
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2022-05-17, 03:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
nathan fillion raises a hand to interject then pauses to think and decides to remain quiet . gif
(because what was said already covers it admirably)
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2022-05-17, 10:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
IMHO, Roy's reaction was pretty OOC.
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2022-05-17, 10:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1257 - The Discussion Thread
It's not all that different from this strip here:
https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1078.html
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2022-05-17, 10:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-18, 02:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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