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    It is a world ruled by Mad Science! Things happen. Usually, they happen to other people. This is entertainment. That's when the front door gets blown in- And you belatedly realize that, once again, you are doomed to be the entertainment in another exciting installment of: GIRL GENIUS!

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    Link to current comic and link to the beginning of the strip. (Updates MWF, usually after Midnight [Eastern Time])
    The Continuing Adventures of Othar Tryggvassen, Gentleman Adventurer! (back on hiatus, may update in the future)
    A compilation (and much easier to read if you're just catching up) of the first three chapters can be found here at the GG website.
    And if one goes to snapbird.org and types in "Othar" in the 'Who?' field, all of Othar's adventures can be read on one page (albiet in reverse order of posting - Now must have a Twitter account to use).
    Mirror of the comic found on LiveJournal (No longer being updated as of Mid-May, 2017)
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    And one can find mirrors of Girl Genius on deviantArt as well. (Occasionally Kaja will put up or link to interesting GG related art that is found on dA)

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    Wikipedia entry on Girl Genius.
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    A twitter account that basically is a catch-all feed for Girl Genius related news.
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    Phil's old LJ page. (Occasionally contains crossposts from the Wordpress website)

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    Continuing discussions:
    1. I have my doubts about Othar's sanity.
    2. I still expect Bang & sire to appear with an airship and evacuate Team Agatha.
    3. I was betting on Clankrezia to win the Princess battle, but now it appears that's impossible, and she's playing spoiler to Monahan.
    4. Where are Castle and Train?


    And a sorta-new topic: did Agatha "solve" the problem of the corrupted waters when she redirected all the corruption onto the battling Princesses?
    And a topic I don't think we've mooted sufficiently: who corrupted the waters in the first place? Are they still around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    And a topic I don't think we've mooted sufficiently: who corrupted the waters in the first place? Are they still around?
    Has it been demonstrated that the corruption of the waters was the result of someone's action, as opposed to some sort of natural process?
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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleBison View Post
    Has it been demonstrated that the corruption of the waters was the result of someone's action, as opposed to some sort of natural process?
    Agatha says at one point that she believes Monahan's experiments have been causing the corruption.

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    Sucks to be those guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleBison View Post
    Has it been demonstrated that the corruption of the waters was the result of someone's action, as opposed to some sort of natural process?
    Quote Originally Posted by geoduck View Post
    Agatha says at one point that she believes Monahan's experiments have been causing the corruption.
    My recollection is that Clankrezia didn't know who had caused the corruption, but said that it wasn't her. Monahan's ascension to Queenhood was delayed by the corruption, and once Clankrezia showed her how to remove it, that's when the Ascension Wars began. That makes me think it's unlikely that Monahan put the corruption in intentionally.

    I'm thinking it's a Vapnoodle thing, but time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    My recollection is that Clankrezia didn't know who had caused the corruption, but said that it wasn't her. Monahan's ascension to Queenhood was delayed by the corruption, and once Clankrezia showed her how to remove it, that's when the Ascension Wars began. That makes me think it's unlikely that Monahan put the corruption in intentionally.
    But what about Monahan causing the corruption unintentionally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divayth Fyr View Post
    But what about Monahan causing the corruption unintentionally?
    This is what I took from it - Monahan thought the effluvia was missing something, and was trying to process it by adding supplements or otherwise 'enhancing' it. While some of those attempts probably did nothing notable, I'm sure at least some of it made the corruption worse. Lucrezia showed her she was starting from bad assumptions - it was already tainted and needed to have the existing contaminants removed.

    Although I doubt Monahan's experiments were fully responsible for the corruption; assuming the runoff from this spring/Flame is similar in nature to the Dyne even the 'pure' stuff would have interesting effects on the surrounding waters. The initial corruption is likely because the constructions that were supposed to contain/redirect/extract the energies from the runoff had broken down and allowed the spring to leak out into the surrounding waters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divayth Fyr View Post
    But what about Monahan causing the corruption unintentionally?
    Quote Originally Posted by tyckspoon View Post
    This is what I took from it - Monahan thought the effluvia was missing something, and was trying to process it by adding supplements or otherwise 'enhancing' it. While some of those attempts probably did nothing notable, I'm sure at least some of it made the corruption worse. Lucrezia showed her she was starting from bad assumptions - it was already tainted and needed to have the existing contaminants removed.

    Although I doubt Monahan's experiments were fully responsible for the corruption; assuming the runoff from this spring/Flame is similar in nature to the Dyne even the 'pure' stuff would have interesting effects on the surrounding waters. The initial corruption is likely because the constructions that were supposed to contain/redirect/extract the energies from the runoff had broken down and allowed the spring to leak out into the surrounding waters.
    Castle and Train found corruption upstream from the point where Monahan could reach. Unless she was lying to Clankrezia, I think the corruption is ancient, and the erstwhile Queen of this island installed the purification devices.

    Which, come to think of it, means it predates Vapnoodle, unless he too is a time traveler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    Castle and Train found corruption upstream from the point where Monahan could reach. Unless she was lying to Clankrezia, I think the corruption is ancient, and the erstwhile Queen of this island installed the purification devices.

    Which, come to think of it, means it predates Vapnoodle, unless he too is a time traveler.
    I mean, he could be? He's (still?) off in another dimension (for the moment) and there are no indications of when or where he'll pop out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    And Lucrezia must realize this. But she has plans to rule all of Europe. The slaver wasps will help, of course, but what level of power does Lucrezia think she's going to have to rule an area 5x or 10x that controlled by the legendarily powerful Albia?

    Perhaps she intends to kill all other Sparks. In which case someone better keep an eye on Othar being a double-agent (or triple, as he'd likely kill Lucrezia given half a chance).
    I think once she stand going after the queens the plan was to rule the world using every flame and the gates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agi Hammerthief View Post
    I think once she stand going after the queens the plan was to rule the world using every flame and the gates.
    One important thing is that Clankrezia, so far as we know, believes that Zola is actually Lucrezia, not an independent entity and that everything being done by the Queen of the Dawn is part of her plan (that she was unaware that Monahan could block her is evidence of this gap).

    Clankrezia's lack of awareness on this subject seems to have influenced her failure to properly update her plans. She may even have been, in Paris, inadvertently working to further the goals of Zola's faction (assuming she was the one who sent the Geisters into Paris).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechalich View Post
    One important thing is that Clankrezia, so far as we know, believes that Zola is actually Lucrezia, not an independent entity and that everything being done by the Queen of the Dawn is part of her plan (that she was unaware that Monahan could block her is evidence of this gap).

    Clankrezia's lack of awareness on this subject seems to have influenced her failure to properly update her plans. She may even have been, in Paris, inadvertently working to further the goals of Zola's faction (assuming she was the one who sent the Geisters into Paris).
    Grandma seemed to think that Zola had sent the Geisters - and Grandma is usually well-informed.

    Bang has appeared sans papa. I expect papa to decide he cares about his daughter enough to bring the airship.
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    I'm lost. Who is Bang's papa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnutx View Post
    I'm lost. Who is Bang's papa?
    This guy.

    He has a huge 'don't care' attitude...

    But he IS how the others got on the island...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sihnfahl View Post
    This guy.

    He has a huge 'don't care' attitude...

    But he IS how the others got on the island...
    I don't know how I missed that.

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    engines in pieces?
    hours to put back together but you need to leave RIGHT NOW?
    good thing there are some sparkies around(*NOTE* i did NOT say safe..just good)
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    Quote Originally Posted by otakuryoga View Post
    engines in pieces?
    hours to put back together but you need to leave RIGHT NOW?
    good thing there are some sparkies around(*NOTE* i did NOT say safe..just good)
    an opportunity to play with the lamp and find the „accelerate“ setting.
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    What would take one ordinary mechanic with a, shall we say, lackadaisical altitude a couple of hours will take panicked Sparks about 5 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    What would take one ordinary mechanic with a, shall we say, lackadaisical altitude a couple of hours will take panicked Sparks about 5 minutes.
    If you can keep them from making 'improvements'.

    And you don't mind the lack of something called 'safety'.
    May you get EXACTLY what you wish for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sihnfahl View Post
    If you can keep them from making 'improvements'.

    And you don't mind the lack of something called 'safety'.
    Improvements are part of the Madness Place, deal with it.

    I didn't mention safety, this thing will get airborne and then veer off toward Africa.
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    Well, if we let the Sparks handle this the airship will definitely go up.
    Most likely in flames, but let's not sweat the details,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Well, if we let the Sparks handle this the airship will definitely go up.
    Most likely in flames, but let's not sweat the details,
    How else are they supposed to get up quickly? That's what the rockets are for. They just need to repurpose the heating element of a toaster, a few teapots, and the funky sludge the airmen use to keep the airbag supple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sihnfahl View Post
    How else are they supposed to get up quickly? That's what the rockets are for. They just need to repurpose the heating element of a toaster, a few teapots, and the funky sludge the airmen use to keep the airbag supple.
    I would not be surprised if they explode a large part of the island in search of a JATO-like effect.

    I'm going to be somewhat disappointed if a lot of valuable artifacts get destroyed by the Princess Temper Tantrums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I would not be surprised if they explode a large part of the island in search of a JATO-like effect.

    I'm going to be somewhat disappointed if a lot of valuable artifacts get destroyed by the Princess Temper Tantrums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I would not be surprised if they explode a large part of the island in search of a JATO-like effect.

    I'm going to be somewhat disappointed if a lot of valuable artifacts get destroyed by the Princess Temper Tantrums.
    I just remembered that multi-cultural vault and all those priceless vases predating queens.
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    New comic

    Can't disagree with Bang's logic here.
    The risk of getting Agatha or Gil into the Madness Place is definitely lower than that of sitting on the exploding island hoping things'll work out.
    Mind you, with other Sparks things might look different, but most of those I wouldn't trust anyway.
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    Now I see Bang and von Zinzer as the best duo to control (for the lack of a better word) sparks: Bang to motivate them and von Zinzer to reel them in and keep them focused.
    In a war it doesn't matter who's right, only who's left.

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    Bangladesh Dupree: life coach for Sparks.
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