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    I'm rather confused right now.

    We know that - on multiple occasions - princesses have gotten kidnapped, to the point where there are special laws just regarding reclaiming them. But, if the princesses can just summon Albia as will to save them, why isn't that done more often when they get in danger? Is there some level of system Albia teaches her princesses as to when they can summon mom? Or is Neena a favorite? Or something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailurus View Post
    I'm rather confused right now.

    We know that - on multiple occasions - princesses have gotten kidnapped, to the point where there are special laws just regarding reclaiming them. But, if the princesses can just summon Albia as will to save them, why isn't that done more often when they get in danger? Is there some level of system Albia teaches her princesses as to when they can summon mom? Or is Neena a favorite? Or something else?
    There’s kidnapping as an opportunity for heroic rescues
    and here is existential threat by Archnemesis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geoduck View Post
    Very clear? We don't know that Albia has that rule, or that Neena has been suppressing anything. We still don't even know if her daughters are biologically related to her. She did declare at one point that Agatha was to be treated as a princess of the realm.
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    Citation needed on "no Sparky daughters", especially because she does tolerate non-family Sparks. We still don't know how Queen Albia goes about producing children - parthenogenesis? Sparky science? Or normal "boink followed by 9 months gestation"?
    I was extrapolating on someone else's wild-mass-guess. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

    As for why the princesses don't call on Mama very often, I suspect that Albia would deal harshly with any of her daughters who called on her frivolously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agi Hammerthief View Post
    There’s kidnapping as an opportunity for heroic rescues
    and here is existential threat by Archnemesis.
    Possibly even more so than Neena realises. Does Team Agatha know about Clankrezia's current Summoning Engine capabilities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailurus View Post
    I'm rather confused right now.

    We know that - on multiple occasions - princesses have gotten kidnapped, to the point where there are special laws just regarding reclaiming them. But, if the princesses can just summon Albia as will to save them, why isn't that done more often when they get in danger? Is there some level of system Albia teaches her princesses as to when they can summon mom? Or is Neena a favorite? Or something else?
    It may be that Albia is only able or willing to appear like this inside her realm.
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    It's always the quiet ones, isn't it...

    We know from Trelawney that Albia does allow this, and trusts the people she gives the ability to to know when it is appropriate to use it.

    That said, from their interactions I suspect that Neena is something of a favourite with Albia. Not much evidence, but it is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleBison View Post
    It may be that Albia is only able or willing to appear like this inside her realm.
    I think it has been put forward that while Queens may be able to teleport short distances, for long distances the mirrors were required. It's also possible that she wasn't far away from this island to begin with, she knew where they were going, and she might have suspected what was going to go down here, or at least that her presence might be called on.

    This also may be the end of Albia, not unlike the Master of Paris... or at least a major diminishing. Lucrezia had mentioned that the Queens power was waning more than she let on, and she's going to be using up a lot of flame fighting two other queens and a mad Deepdweller this far from her own well. She'll win, or at least save our heroes, but it's going to cost her.

    While it's not surprising that her daughter had a "summon mom/get out of trouble free" card it does feel a little like Deus Ex Machina for the second time with Alba.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zazu Yen View Post
    While it's not surprising that her daughter had a "summon mom/get out of trouble free" card it does feel a little like Deus Ex Machina for the second time with Alba.
    It’s not Deus Ex if it’s known to be likely.
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    This could be interesting. Albia, probably a projection of her, versus two half crippled partial queens both dying and these deepdweller monsters. This is an awful mess. I cant wait to see what happens next.
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    Albia looks to be 2x or 3x the size of the Princesses. I'm sure killing the Song Keeper would be a major diplomatic faux pas, but no one will mind if Clankrezia and Monahan go away.
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    A simple ROFL-Stomp on the wannabe queens is probably too much to ask for.
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    I assume Monahan will at least try to surrender, she was scared of Albia doing exactly this.

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    I hope Albia doesn’t monologue. Kill or subdue the Princesses, save your daughter, go home.
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    Monahan is about to get a boost.
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    Lucrezia thinks she can one shot Albia. I think she's about to be surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    Lucrezia thinks she can one shot Albia. I think she's about to be surprised.
    Is she trying to one-shot her, or is that the brain-taker-over-thingie? Granted, I doubt that'd go over well either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax1138 View Post
    Is she trying to one-shot her, or is that the brain-taker-over-thingie? Granted, I doubt that'd go over well either.
    The brain-taker-over-thingie seems to require physical touch (seen with Steelgarter holding Monahan and how Lu tried to reach the airship). This looks like aiming for a shot.
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    Pretty sure that's her anti-queen deathray.

    Albia has probably been doing some research and buffing her defenses since her epiphany about Lucrezia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wingnutx View Post
    Pretty sure that's her anti-queen deathray.

    Albia has probably been doing some research and buffing her defenses since her epiphany about Lucrezia.
    It was the deathray, but doesn't look like Albia has been doing much to improve her defenses.


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    So much for that theory. :P

    And not a good showing for the Queen of England either. I guess we can chalk this up to Lu's unmatched experience in Queen killing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax1138 View Post
    I guess we can chalk this up to Lu's unmatched experience in Queen killing?
    And Albia's overconfidence.

    Think, say, Luthor pointing a normal gun at Superman. Oh, no, another gun? But it has kryptonite bullets. Oops.
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    If the Paris storyline is anything to go by, Lucrezia is about to be completely blindsided by a very angry Neena.
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    Having stunned Albia with her anti-queen ray, Clankrezia must resort to punching to finish her off? How primitive.

    I am very surprised Albia wasn’t prepared for this.
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    * my emphasis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pax1138 View Post
    So much for that theory. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manga Shoggoth View Post
    If the Paris storyline is anything to go by, Lucrezia is about to be completely blindsided by a very angry Neena.
    It will be Agatha who does something, not Neena. What exactly, I have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sihnfahl View Post
    And Albia's overconfidence.

    Think, say, Luthor pointing a normal gun at Superman. Oh, no, another gun? But it has kryptonite bullets. Oops.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shining Wrath View Post
    I am very surprised Albia wasn’t prepared for this.
    I agree with Shining Wrath, overconfident or not, Albia knew about Lu's queen killing, and that the party's efforts would be intersecting with her. She should have known that the gun had kryptonite bullets, so to speak. At the very least she should have come in swinging, rather than just stand there posturing and letting Lu get in the first shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie the Duck View Post
    I agree with Shining Wrath, overconfident or not, Albia knew about Lu's queen killing, and that the party's efforts would be intersecting with her. She should have known that the gun had kryptonite bullets, so to speak. At the very least she should have come in swinging, rather than just stand there posturing and letting Lu get in the first shot.
    Yes, she should have, but hey, hubris.

    And the idiot ball.

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    Of course, Albia could be about to stand up and cry “Psych!”. Or Monahan could earn mercy.
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