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    And then there's the Timeless Child stuff that, if it hasn't been retconned and The Master wasn't lying, means that the Doctor's birth name is lost to History.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rater202 View Post
    And then there's the Timeless Child stuff that, if it hasn't been retconned and The Master wasn't lying, means that the Doctor's birth name is lost to History.
    Never heard of it.
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    Never heard of it.
    Trust me, you don't want to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rater202 View Post
    And then there's the Timeless Child stuff that, if it hasn't been retconned and The Master wasn't lying, means that the Doctor's birth name is lost to History.
    Does anybody take what a Time Lord says at face value anymore? The Master lies just as much as the Doctor does.

    Trust me, this'll go the way of 'the Doctor is half human on their mother's side'.
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    Trust me, you don't want to know.
    I don't know because that plotline never happened and I will glare malevolently at anyone who says otherwise.
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    Everything y'all are saying about The Timeless Child has made me more interested in checking it out than anything Doctor Who has done on the last 8 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    Everything y'all are saying about The Timeless Child has made me more interested in checking it out than anything Doctor Who has done on the last 8 years.
    It's a bad retcon that changes nothing important about the character's... character (despite repeated claims that "everything you know is about to change") while indulging the show's worst impulses when it comes to portraying its protagonist. And it's done in a boring, sloppy manner in a bad episode that leeches from the fond memories of Classic Who while almost-literally spitting on its grave.

    All of that to retroactively validate an old fan theory no-one cares about besides the most canon-obsessed fans of a show where "canon" is an untenable proposition.

    It's just plain bad, and not in a fun way.
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    Oh it changes things. It changes things fundamentally.

    And all of the changes make things worse.
    It's hard to forgive those who have wronged you but every moment you don't is another they have hurt you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    It's a bad retcon that changes nothing important about the character's... character (despite repeated claims that "everything you know is about to change") while indulging the show's worst impulses when it comes to portraying its protagonist. And it's done in a boring, sloppy manner in a bad episode that leeches from the fond memories of Classic Who while almost-literally spitting on its grave.

    All of that to retroactively validate an old fan theory no-one cares about besides the most canon-obsessed fans of a show where "canon" is an untenable proposition.

    It's just plain bad, and not in a fun way.
    All this just because it's a theory the showrunner personally came up with.

    Now it could have been handled well. But it's not, because it manages to:
    -change the origin of regeneration (before implied to have been stolen from the Time Lord's enemies)
    -tack an extra previous chapter onto the creation of Time Lord society
    -give the answer to an enigma in such a way that it'll never matter (because that character is dead)
    -create a new Time Lord institution with the same in-universe and out of universe role as the Celestial Integration Agency, without explaining how they're different
    -destroy Galifrey, again, before any of it's potential could be used
    -make the First Doctor's character development meaningless because pre-One Doctors are shown acting like post-One Doctors
    -invert the Doctor from only being special by comparison (actually being a substandard Time Lord) to being The Special One
    -retconning the origin of the TARDIS, despite that being one of the most solid bits of lore in the show (and we've seen older models)
    -explain one sequence in one Fourth Doctor episode that that had two separate explanations (either being Morbius's regenerations or potential future regenerations)

    All for a change that the BBC won't care about by 2024 and will be quietly retconned when authors prefer the Doctor as a substandard Time Lord who just likes to explore.
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    Someone called me half wit as an insult earlier.

    I am legitimately thrilled and happy about it for some reason.

    Seriously. My name is HalfTANGIBLE

    It's RIGHT THERE PEOPLE!!

    AND YET IT HAS BEEN SO LONG I AM LEGITIMATELY THRILLED
    It's hard to forgive those who have wronged you but every moment you don't is another they have hurt you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfTangible View Post
    Someone called me half wit as an insult earlier.

    I am legitimately thrilled and happy about it for some reason.

    Seriously. My name is HalfTANGIBLE

    It's RIGHT THERE PEOPLE!!

    AND YET IT HAS BEEN SO LONG I AM LEGITIMATELY THRILLED
    I've got half a mind to think that is person's insult was half baked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    I've got half a mind to think that is person's insult was half baked.
    I have half a mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Muse View Post
    I have half a mind.
    Same. It's in the freezer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enderlord99 View Post
    Same. It's in the freezer.
    Is it by the half and half?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Muse View Post
    I have half a mind.
    Oh it's fine, you can live with just half.

    Now, having half a body on the other hand... Well, it depends on how you figured the halfs and if it was one big chunk of just a bunch of pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rater202 View Post
    Oh it's fine, you can live with just half.

    Now, having half a body on the other hand... Well, it depends on how you figured the halfs and if it was one big chunk of just a bunch of pieces.
    If I can only have half a body, I'd prefer the inside. That's where most of the important bits are.
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    I only half regret telling you this story.
    It's hard to forgive those who have wronged you but every moment you don't is another they have hurt you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    If I can only have half a body, I'd prefer the inside. That's where most of the important bits are.
    Unfortunately the outside is far less than half, they'd have to take almost half of the inside, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfTangible View Post
    I only half regret telling you this story.
    Hey, so long as it's only half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rater202 View Post
    Unfortunately the outside is far less than half, they'd have to take almost half of the inside, too.
    Well that depends on how you want to measure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keltest View Post
    Admittedly its been a long time, but doesnt the Doctor have an actual name name (as opposed to a title) that he does know and identify with that he simply keeps private for his own reasons?
    Also, Doctor John Smith (from the early Pertwee days, when he had to have a name on his UNIT documents). It hasn't been used much, but it pops up now and then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manga Shoggoth View Post
    Also, Doctor John Smith (from the early Pertwee days, when he had to have a name on his UNIT documents). It hasn't been used much, but it pops up now and then.
    John Smith originated with the Second Doctor who just used a name printed on a nearby device when asked to give his.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    John Smith originated with the Second Doctor who just used a name printed on a nearby device when asked to give his.
    Quite possibily, but alas Troughton was before my time. I came in around the middle of the Pertwee period, and my access to the books (in those days the only other source of information, and a very limited one at that) was spotty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    John Smith originated with the Second Doctor who just used a name printed on a nearby device when asked to give his.
    Actually the Doctor was unconscious and it was Jamie who was asked to provide their name.
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    Jean-Jacques Sempé, creator of and artist for Le Petit Nicolas and artist of many coversThe New Yorker died yesterday.
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    My mother baked a store-bought lasagna for dinner only to put it back in because it seemed a little watery.

    Baking it longer made it more watery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rater202 View Post
    My mother baked a store-bought lasagna for dinner only to put it back in because it seemed a little watery.

    Baking it longer made it more watery.
    Ew.

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    Part of the point of the first Metal Gear Solid is that genetics isn't as important as training, experience, and strength of character when it comes to what makes a soldier, with Solid Snake, who is revealed in a post-credit scene to be the "inferior" clone of Big Boss despite Liquid's ravings* overcoming the implicitly and explicitly superhuman members of FOXHOUND, his genetically superior twin, and the genome soldiers who were modified to b genetically similar to Big Boss through raw skill and determination.

    ...But even in that same game Liquid was exposed to the FOXDIE Virus multiple times and it still took him hours to die(and according to supplemental material his heart stopped about a minute before he collapsed) when everyone else had a fatal heart attack within minutes of exposure and they do explicitly state that the Genome soldier project did increase the physical abilities, intelligence, and aptitude for weapons and vehicles of all test subjects. Liquid also shrugs off more damage than every other boss in the game combined.

    Various prequels and side games, meanwhile, confirm the existence of biological superpowers in the setting and show Big Boss showing off superhuman feats of strength(overhead pressing away the leg of a metal gear trying to crush him,) toughness, and regeneration(recovering from the prolog of MGS3 in a week, anyone?)

    The game presents the concept as being silly but... No, there was merit to the theories about Big Boss's apparently superhuman genetics and Les Infante Terrible and the Genome Soldier Project proved that there was a genetic component to his apparently superhuman level of skill and aptitude.

    Kind of undermines the morale.

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    And MGSV kind of undermines the moral of 2: "Real Experience and Individuality wins out over Simulated training and trying to make people into psychological copies of other people" being undermined all to hell and back by "this random guy gained all of Big Boss's skills and physical ability from fake memories and being gaslit into thinking he was Big Boss" Venom Snake getting all of Big Boss's powers from being made to think he as big boss proves the "memes" theory that the Patriots were testing in 2
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