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    So, I don't think this has been done before, unless it was done over at BG or here and my search skills are failing me, but thought it might be worthwhile to compile a list of the official skills (and sub-skills) that exist in 3.5 (and un-updated 3.0).

    To be clear, I won't be including PF, 3rd party, or homebrew. I also won't be including KoK, Ravenloft or Dragonlance; Dragon Mag or Dungeon mag, although I may give these their own section in the future.

    So, here goes - formatting will change throughout the process, and I might pretty it all up with tables etc.








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    Craft
    • Alchemy (various)
    • Armorsmithing (various)
    • Basketweaving
    • Boatbuilding
    • Bowmaking (various)
    • Bookbinding (A&EG p.62)
    • Brassmaking (A&EG p.62)
    • Brewing (A&EG p.62)
    • Calligraphy
    • Candlemaking (A&EG p.62)
    • Carpentry
    • Cobbling
    • Coppersmithing (A&EG p.62)
    • Coralshaping (A&EG p.15)
    • Dyemaking (A&EG p.62)
    • Flower Arranging (OA p.57)
    • Gemcutting (A&EG p.62)
    • Goldsmihting (A&EG p.62)
    • Hatmaking (A&EG p.62)
    • Hornworking (A&EG p.62)
    • Jewelmaking (A&EG p.63)
    • Landscape Gardening (OA p.57)
    • Leatherworking
    • Locksmithing
    • Mapmaking (A&EG p.62)
    • Masonry (EoE p.149) [probably a duplicate of Stonemasonry]
    • Metalworking
    • Origami (OA p.57)
    • Other Fine Arts (?) (OA p.57)
    • Painting (A&EG p.63)
    • Parchmentmaking (A&EG p.63)
    • Pewtermaking (A&EG p.63)
    • Poisonmaking (A&EG p.38)
    • Pottery
    • Potterymaking (A&EG p.63)
    • Painting (EoE p.87)
    • Ropemaking
    • Sailmaking
    • Sculpting (various)
    • Sculpture (A&EG p.20) [probably a duplicate of Sculpting]
    • Shipmaking (A&EG p.63)
    • Silversmithing (A&EG p.63)
    • Shoemaking (A&EG p.62)
    • Skinning (A&EG p.63)
    • Soapmaking (A&EG p.63)
    • Stonecarving
    • Stonemasonry (EoE p.121)
    • Stoneworking
    • Tanning (A&EG p.63)
    • Trapmaking (various)
    • Weaponsmithing (various)
    • Weaving (A&EG p.63)
    • Wheelmaking (A&EG p.63)
    • Winemaking (A&EG p.63)
    • Woodcarving
    • Woodworking (A&EG p.62)

    Knowledge
    • Knowledge (arcana)
    • Knowledge (barbarian lore) (OA p.58)
    • Knowledge (architecture and engineering)
    • Knowledge (code of martial honor)
    • Knowledge (dungeoneering)
    • Knowledge (forbidden lore) [special case in that it isn't Int based, and used for an alternative sanity system; also, you don't acquire ranks in the usual way]
    • Knowledge (geography)
    • Knowledge (gemology)
    • Knowledge (ghost lore) (Gh p.27)
    • Knowledge (hearth wisdom)
    • Knowledge (history)
    • Knowledge (law)
    • Knowledge (literature)
    • Knowledge (local)
    • Knowledge (mathematics)
    • Knowledge (nature)
    • Knowledge (nobility and royalty)
    • Knowledge (politics)
    • Knowledge (psionics) (SRD, PH p.19)
    • Knowledge (religion)
    • Knowledge (shadowlands) (OA p.58)
    • Knowledge (spirits) (OA p.58)
    • Knowledge (streetwise)
    • Knowledge (the planes)
    • Knowledge (weaponry)

    Perform1
    • Act
    • Buffoonery (A&EG p.28, BoVD WE p.7) [should probably be comedy]
    • Chant (BoVD WE p.7, CM p.77, FF p.148, SS p.97)
    • Comedy
    • Dance
    • Drama (ELH p.299) [should probably be act]
    • Drum (S&F p.92) [should probably be percussion instruments]
    • Epic (BoVD WE p.7)
    • Fine Arts (OA p.57)
    • Flute (S&F p.92, SS p.56) [should probably be wind instruments]
    • Harp (MoI p187) [should probably be string instruments]
    • Juggling (Self Fulfilling Prophecy p.8)
    • Keyboard Instruments
    • Limericks (BoVD WE p.7)
    • Lute (BoBS p.39, HoH p.36) [should probably be string instruments]
    • Melody (BoVD WE p.7, FF p.148, RttToEE p.172)
    • Mime (Self Fulfilling Prophecy p.8, Tiger's Palace p.6)
    • Ode (BoVD WE p.7, FF p. 148)
    • Oratory
    • Pan Pipes (BoBS p.39) [should probably be wind instruments]
    • Poetry (Tiger's Palace p.6) [should probably be oratory]
    • Percussion Instruments
    • Recite Poetry (BoBS p.39) [should probably be oratory]
    • Recorder (RttToEE p.166) [should probably be wind instruments]
    • Sing
    • Song (FC1 p. 60) [duplicate/typo of sing?]
    • Storytelling (BoVD WE p.7, FF p.148, HBG p.9, RotD p.25, S&F p.92) [should probably be oratory]
    • String Instruments
    • Tea Ceremony (OA p.57)
    • Weapon Drill (CW p.121)
    • Wind Instruments

    Profession
    • Apothecary (various)
    • Astrologer
    • Blacksmith (EoE p.121)
    • Boater
    • Bookkeeper (various)
    • Brewer (DMG2 p.180)
    • Butcher (EoE p.120)
    • Cartographer
    • Cook (various)
    • Courtier (OA p.57)
    • Embalmer (BoVD p.140)
    • Engineer
    • Executioner (BoVD p.39) [this has its own special rules around performing executions]
    • Farmer (DMG2 p.182)
    • Fisher
    • Gambler
    • Gardener
    • Guide
    • Herder
    • Herbalist (various)
    • Hunter
    • Innkeeper (DMG2 p.182)
    • Lawyer
    • Lumberjack
    • Mason
    • Merchant
    • Miller
    • Miner (DMG p.124)
    • Pilot (various)
    • Porter
    • Ranger
    • Sailor (various)
    • Scribe (BoVD p.153)
    • Shopkeeper (DMG2 p.182)
    • Siege Engineer (DMG p.100)
    • Silk Maker
    • Slaver
    • Soldier
    • Stablehand (EoE p.119)
    • Tanner
    • Teacher (DMG2 p.180)
    • Teamster
    • Woodcutter




    1 A lot of 3.0 Perform subskills got rolled into broader categories, and how many subksills you got worked kind of differently:

    Quote Originally Posted by 3.0 SRD
    Possible Perform types include ballad, buffoonery, chant, comedy, dance, drama, drums, epic, flute, harp, juggling, limericks, lute, mandolin, melody, mime, ode, pan pipes, recorder, shalm, storytelling, and trumpet. The character is capable of one form of performance per rank.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3.5 SRD
    • Act (comedy, drama, mime)
    • Comedy (buffoonery, limericks, joke-telling)
    • Dance (ballet, waltz, jig)
    • Keyboard instruments (harpsichord, piano, pipe organ)
    • Oratory (epic, ode, storytelling)
    • Percussion instruments (bells, chimes, drums, gong)
    • String instruments (fiddle, harp, lute, mandolin)
    • Wind instruments (flute, pan pipes, recorder, shawm, trumpet)
    • Sing (ballad, chant, melody)

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    Perform (Weapon Drill), if we're breaking it down into instruments, art forms, etc?

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    It may be worthwhile to note which skills are locked by class feature (Search, Disable Device by Trapfinding, Hide by HiPS), or feat (Survival by Track, Hide by Darkstalker).

    There are some extra knowledges in Oriental Adventures which may interest you.

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    Lists like this is making me be appreciative of the Grouped Skill Rules in Pathfinder.
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    Craft (Caligraphy): Runecaster Prerequisite
    Craft (Gemcutting): Runecaster Prerequisite
    Craft (Metalworking): Runecaster Prerequisite
    Craft (Stonecarving): Runecaster Prerequisite
    Craft (Stonemasonry): Dungeon Delver Prerequisite
    Craft (Stoneworking): Runesmith, Stoneblessed, Stonelord Prerequisite
    Craft (Woodcarving): Runecaster Prerequisite

    Edit:
    Craft (Leatherworking): Effigy Master Prerequisite
    Craft (Poisonmaking): Monk of the Long Death Prerequisite
    Craft (Woodworking): Effigy Master Prerequisite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saintheart View Post
    It looks like daremetoidareyou did a pretty extensive library of Knowledge skills (see what I did there).
    If you combine Knowledge: Dungeoneering and Knowledge: Dragons and your character should know everything.

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    The subskills are going to be a pain to reference, but I'll get there slowly...

    Thanks for the input so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jervis View Post
    A little memey but the now dead web enhancements (pls tell me if anyone knows where to find those now).
    Over here.

    The Web Enhancements, not the cats, as yet.

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    Ghostwalk has Knowledge (Ghost Lore) and I'm fairly certain ToB has at least one as well.
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    I would be curious to know what profession skills are named explicitly in 3rd edition. I think PF went into naming some of them in the skill description but you said you are not doing PF. Perhaps there are some hidden in the prerequisites for certain prestige classes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle_Man View Post
    I would be curious to know what profession skills are named explicitly in 3rd edition. I think PF went into naming some of them in the skill description but you said you are not doing PF. Perhaps there are some hidden in the prerequisites for certain prestige classes?
    Profession (sailor) is required for a couple of PrCs. I also remember seeing a reference to Profession (barrister) discussed in a different thread.
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    Yanisa has made a spreadsheet with 134 skills (including many subskills for Profession). It can be found here.
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    I'm surprised that the most broken skill, craft (basketweaving), doesn't show up. Or am I missing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleph View Post
    I'm surprised that the most broken skill, craft (basketweaving), doesn't show up. Or am I missing it?
    It's item no. 11 (row no. 12) on the list I linked. Does that count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metastachydium View Post
    Yanisa has made a spreadsheet with 134 skills (including many subskills for Profession). It can be found here.
    It misses Craft (drawing) (SpC p.55).

    Honestly, trying to list every craft and profession skill seems like a hiding to nothing as there are potentially thousands of them, but if we're doing this...

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    Lots of Craft skills in Chapter 4, A&EG which likely aren't updated...

    EDIT: Also, Profession (Executioner) is a thing in Book of Vile Darkness. If you can figure out a way to render targets helpless and therefore vulnerable to a strike with an executioner's sword, and then autofail a Profession (Executioner) check, you do a critical hit. Good times.

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    Yeah, the sub skill list, especially for Profession and Craft, is going to be laborious.

    I'm focusing on finishing up the formatting on my VC entry right now, but will update as I get a chance.

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    Craft:
    Arms and Equipment Guide have also:
    • Locksmithing
    • Milling
    Dragon #359 have Craft (Body Modifications)

    Perform:
    Oriental Adventures have:
    • Acrobatics
    • Jesting
    • Noh/kabuki
    • Poetry
    • Rhetoric
    • Storytelling
    • Tea ceremony
    Adamantine Chef have Perform (cooking tricks)
    Dragon #294 have Perform (wit) - as integral part of optional Reputation mechanics (successful check can be used to literally damage the opponent's Reputation)

    Profession:
    Apothecary - also prerequisite for Gnome Artificer PrC (Magic of Faerûn), which was published earlier than BoVD
    Astrologer - prerequisite for Sublime Chord PrC (Complete Arcane)
    Blacksmith - as "Blacksmithing", was listed in the Arms and Equipment Guide
    Boater - prerequisite for Darkhagard PrC
    Cartographer - prerequisite for Royal Explorer PrC (Song and Silence)
    Engineer - prerequisite for Gnome Artificer PrC (Magic of Faerûn); as "Engineering" - was prerequisite for constructing Guardian Familiars (Complete Warrior)
    Gambler - prerequisite for Fatespinner PrC (Complete Arcane)
    Gardener - prerequisite for constructing Topiary Guardian (Monster Manual III)
    Herbalist - prerequisite for Mystic Wanderer PrC (Magic of Faerûn)
    Lawyer - prerequisite for Consecrated Harrier PrC (Defenders of the Faith)
    Mason - prerequisite for constructing Nimblewright, Juggernaut, and Clay Half-Golem (Monster Manual II)
    Merchant - prerequisite for Merchant Prince PrC (Power of Faerûn)
    Pilot - appeared in the Arms and Equipment Guide
    Silk Maker - prerequisite for constructing Web Golem (Monster Manual III)
    Slaver - prerequisite for Thayan Slaver PrC (Unapproachable East)
    Soldier - Border Watch feat (Dragon #315) gives +5 bonus on checks for this skill
    According to the joke Conventioneer article, Mat Smith have Profession (copywriter) +13 and Profession (foam weaponsmith) +5

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    From Sword and Fist:

    Knowledge (Hearth Wisdom)
    Knowledge (Literature)
    Knowledge (Mathematics)
    Knowledge (Politics)
    Knowledge (Streetwise)
    Knowledge (Weaponry) [In the Weapon Master Entry]

    Yeap, apparently we need to check the class skill lists as well.

    (Weirdly, two of those are Knowledges and one is a Talent in World of Darkness)

    Was there a Knowledge (Tactics) somewhere? Maybe Miniatures Handbook? Dungeonscape? I currently do not have access to those.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShurikVch View Post
    Perform:
    Oriental Adventures have:
    • Acrobatics
    • Jesting
    • Noh/kabuki
    • Poetry
    • Rhetoric
    • Storytelling
    • Tea ceremony
    Hey, can someone remind me why bards can't use bardic music with tea ceremony? I seem to remember they can't but I don't remember the RAW why (besides the ridiculous image of a bard setting up a tea table so perfectly, amidsth a battle, that their comrades are inspired to fight).
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    Don’t know about the RAW answer but maybe because a proper tea ceremony takes a long time to complete and multiple participants (the tea server and guest(s)) to do it right, and thus is not feasible in most situations involving orcs swinging falchions at your friend’s head while screaming bloody murder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle_Man View Post
    Don’t know about the RAW answer but maybe because a proper tea ceremony takes a long time to complete and multiple participants (the tea server and guest(s)) to do it right, and thus is not feasible in most situations involving orcs swinging falchions at your friend’s head while screaming bloody murder?
    Now don't get all reasonable on me.

    I found it.

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    [...] reciting poetry, chanting, singing lyrical songs, singing melodies, whistling, playing an instrument, or playing an instrument in combination with some spoken performance [...]


    Bardic Music requires, instrumentation, vocals or spoken words. Tea Ceremony is none of those - it's not sound based at all.
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    So mime and interpretive dance are also not feasible with bardic music in 3.5? Interesting.

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    Craft: Leatherworking (Effigy Master prereq, Complete Arcane)
    Craft: Metalworking (Effigy Master prereq, Complete Arcane)
    Craft: Stonemasonry (Dungeon Delver prereq, Complete Adventurer)
    Craft: Woodworking (Effigy Master prereq, Complete Arcane)


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    Profession: Gambler (Fatespinner prereq, Complete Arcane)
    Profession: Sailor (Dread Pirate prereq, Complete Adventurer)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle_Man View Post
    So mime and interpretive dance are also not feasible with bardic music in 3.5? Interesting.
    Perform (Wilhelm scream), on the other hand, should work just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle_Man View Post
    Don’t know about the RAW answer but maybe because a proper tea ceremony takes a long time to complete and multiple participants (the tea server and guest(s)) to do it right, and thus is not feasible in most situations involving orcs swinging falchions at your friend’s head while screaming bloody murder?
    If you are a soul bound psychic warrior who is soul bound weapon is a percolater from the arms in equipment guide, you can versatile performance weapon drill tea ceremony…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    Yeah, the sub skill list, especially for Profession and Craft, is going to be laborious.

    I'm focusing on finishing up the formatting on my VC entry right now, but will update as I get a chance.
    A bunch of crafts and professions are suggested in the PHB / SRD skill descriptions which have not yet been listed. I don't know if there's much value in listing anything that's not a prerequisite for something else, though, since these skills can consist of literally anything you can think of to fill in the blank.

    Craft (Basketweaving) - PHB 70
    Craft (Boatbuilding) - Stormwrack 84
    Craft (Calligraphy) - PHB 70
    Craft (Carpentry) - PHB 70
    Craft (Cobbling) - PHB 70
    Craft (Leatherworking) - PHB 70
    Craft (Locksmithing) - PHB 70
    Craft (Pottery) - PHB 70
    Craft (Ropemaking) - Stormwrack 84
    Craft (Sailmaking) - Stormwrack 84

    Profession (Boater) - PHB 80
    Profession (Driver) - PHB 80
    Profession (Fisher) - PHB 80
    Profession (Guide) - PHB 80
    Profession (Herder) - PHB 80
    Profession (Hunter) - PHB 80
    Profession (Lumberjack) - PHB 80
    Profession (Miller) - PHB 80
    Profession (Porter) - PHB 80
    Profession (Ranger) - PHB 80
    Profession (Tanner) - PHB 80
    Profession (Teamster) - PHB 80
    Profession (Woodcutter) - PHB 80

    Quote Originally Posted by Particle_Man View Post
    So mime and interpretive dance are also not feasible with bardic music in 3.5? Interesting.
    Note that bardic music requires having ranks in perform, but does not require making an actual perform check except for fascinate and countersong. A bard could play a lute with 11 ranks in perform (strings) and 20 charisma at level 8 for Inspire Courage +2. A bard with 3 ranks in perform (mime) and 6 charisma could play a lute for the exact same effect. While you can't produce a bardic music effect, being trained as a mime and having ranks in perform (mime) would allow you to qualify for class features and grant you access to the ability.
    Last edited by Vaern; 2022-07-31 at 01:35 PM.
    "Technically correct" is the best kind of correct.

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