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2022-08-11, 03:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Yes, MitD is facing Xykon and focused on the possibility of delicious food, ignoring the cleric casting the 9th level spell.
If the summoned creature can't take care of the request quickly, they must be paid. Sometimes in coin, sometimes in other things. I wonder if Redcloak is about to offer MitD in exchange for a horde of Modrons. I linked to the SRD for the Gate spell above.This ... is my signature finishing move!
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2022-08-11, 04:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Wait, if the EULA (sorry, ESLA) is chanted in full, doesn't that mean the Order have weeks to plan before TE can do anything?
I doubt it. If we assume it'll take less than an hour, it's 500gp per HD of the modron he called (any secondary ones who come along for the ride are gravy), half that if we consider mapping to be "non-hazardous". (I doubt it'll take longer than an hour). If CR matches the number of Hit Dice, that would be 7000gp for a Quinton (3.5k if "nonhazardous).
I think Redcloak can afford that.Last edited by Reboot; 2022-08-11 at 04:19 PM.
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2022-08-11, 04:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
When I've told my husband that I was laughing at a joke made today that was prepared almost 20 years ago, he's called me "neuroatypical"
He was teasing me because I've taught him that word today; but I wonder if it takes some degree on the spectrum to remember a callback to a non-plot-relevant detail from that long ago, or if it's just a sign of love for an amazing work if fiction.Last edited by TuringTest; 2022-08-11 at 04:46 PM.
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2022-08-11, 04:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Nah, no way the Order’s getting THAT lucky. This should give them at least an hour or two though.
Given the location they’re mapping has monsters Xykon can gain XP from, it will certainly be hazardous. But yes, Redcloak can certainly afford that in gp; the only question is if the Modrob requests payment in any unusual form of currency or not.Last edited by NobleCuriosity; 2022-08-11 at 04:46 PM.
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2022-08-11, 04:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
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Love the rendering of the big modron dude - he looks great in your art-style, Rich!Last edited by Elan's Modron; 2022-08-11 at 04:54 PM.
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2022-08-11, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-11, 05:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
You do still have to have it available to spend however. He might have been burning a bunch of Greater Restorations in there too on himself and Oona for all we know.
This.
The comic calling out the XP cost (and the pain it causes) is likely intended to explain why RC doesn't just Gate as soon as initiative is rolled in every fight, as well as why he hasn't used this tactic for exploring the dungeons until now.
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2022-08-11, 05:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Hmm, Modrons? That was unexpected. So this is less for combat and more for divinations I assume.
Also technically Redcloak has cast this spell once, just not for the summoning usage.Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
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2022-08-11, 06:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Quintons have really great divinations (including Legend Lore which would only demand a few hours to cast), but I suspect what Redcloak is after is the army of modrons following it.
Also, depending on the Giant's reading (and the quinton's feat selection), the quinton's 200-miles telepathy may let it detect that there are not enough creatures behind the doors and that the gate must be somewhere else.Resurrecting the Negative LA thread, comments and discussion are very welcome!
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2022-08-11, 06:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
I get the feeling this is going to go to a showdown where Durkon can understand the ESLA better than Redcloak, and thus gains some advantage (like, "Agree to Thor's terms or I will invoke subsection 5, paragraph 3, clause ii, which states that failure to provide angel food cake acts as your declaration of war against Mechanus").
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2022-08-11, 06:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-11, 06:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Well, the Order has three Lawful characters at least.
failure to provide angel food cake
I think between Redcloak's comment on specifically needing some Lawful summons, and that his goal is to find the Gate, it's likely those divinations are what he's hoping to use.
I assumed after Zzdrit's "Parody is Free Speech" then everything is back on the table.Last edited by JonahFalcon; 2022-08-11 at 06:52 PM.
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2022-08-11, 07:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Not if you're particularly verbose. I think a EU/SLA qualifies :p
A big army can split up and look for clues.Last edited by Reboot; 2022-08-11 at 07:07 PM.
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2022-08-11, 07:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
I'm not convinced it's non-plot-relevant. I suspect that once we know what the MitD is, all of the gate-related comments will make perfect sense, and we'll wonder why we didn't figure it out based on that.
The crucial issue is that angel food cake is served on a doily, which is indeed the gateway ("Gate? What gate?") to ULTIMATE COSMIC POWER.
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2022-08-11, 07:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Round, green-skinned, one-eyed, yellow-eyed, overly wordy, and three digits on each hand? There really IS an uncanny resemblance!
Also, I'd kinda forgotten he had the Law domain, given his surprise at the High Priest of the Twelve Gods having that spell prepared and available (which is weird given that the HP resided in a town so Paladin-dominant).Characters I've enjoyed playing for more than four sessions:
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2022-08-11, 08:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-11, 08:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Did not expect this, but nice! And there goes another of Redcloak’s 9th level spell slots.
But this is nuts.
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2022-08-11, 08:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Isn't demogorgon the most powerful demon lord? Plus what do you mean by on par? What planes do the other people you mentioned rule? Would lords of the feywild, shadowfell, and elemental planes be that powerful(such as tasha, ogremech, or strahd.) On a side note there, wouldn't that make mordenkainen as powerful as a god(on par with tasha, an archfey). And finally, are the other demon lords (for example, my favorite, fra'zz urbluu) as powerful as asmodeus? If you can't answer all of these that's fine, but if you can that would be awesome thank you. I can't find anything(no matter how hard I look) in the 5e main source books on the rulers of the other planes(does limbo even have one?) And yet I can't find anything about the astral, ethereal(though those probably don't count) feywild(besides archfey), shadowfell(aside from strahd, the raven queen(she's the shadowfell ruler now that I think about it) and the bone lords), plane of air(Ruler of aaracockra? Yan-C-Bin?), water(olhydra?), Fire(Immix is that elemental evil guy right?) or earth(ogremech?) besides maybe the respective genie kings; Celestia is the solars. Bytopia no Idea. Elysium no idea. Beastlands no idea. Ysgard no idea. Nine hells has asmodeus. Carceri has merlow(Just guessing from the names mood) The abyss is all of the demon lords??? Pandemonium and carceri I don't even know the fiend type that dwell there, Hades nothing outside of the obvious, and ghenna I don't know besides maybe that yugoloth guy from the monster manual. Now I haven't read every source book so I could be missing somthing. Sorry about all the questions.
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2022-08-11, 08:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Nevermind. I looked up the rules, and the XP cost isn't required for dimensional travel. So when Redcloak said he never used that 'exact' spell before, he meant he's never used it to summon creatures until now.
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2022-08-11, 08:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-11, 09:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Hooray, first time seeing Modron in Order of the Stick.
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2022-08-11, 09:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Right, but even "particularly verbose" uses up a few rounds per your own link. Not "weeks." :p
He never used this function of it before (Calling outsiders.) The transport function drains no XP.
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2022-08-11, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
My suspicion is that this has little to do with DnD and more that The Giant doesn't want to leave an open question as to 'why didn't Redcloak summon another army' later in the comic, the DnD explanation works very well but only for people who can be bothered with worrying about DnD 3.5, the it eats his soul explanation works for everyone else.
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2022-08-11, 10:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-08-11, 10:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Ha, modrons are great. This made my night.
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2022-08-11, 10:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
I definitely am not deeply familiar with D&D mechanics at all-- the large majority of what I've learned is through the course of trying to better understand this comic-- but with what everyone's said about Legend Lore and similar powers, that makes total sense to me as why Redcloak would specifically be summoning Lawful creatures.
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2022-08-11, 11:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
I was thinking that Legend Lore might not be effective as a means of gathering information that was held as a close secret by the Scribblies. But then I remembered that the dungeons were constructed by crews... or at least Dorukan's was, and we saw Serini supervising the delivery of a cage of monsters. (The literal accuracy of that page is uncertain.) It would depend on whether Kraagor's Gate was hidden before the dungeon work began.
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2022-08-11, 11:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
Partially agree. If he just wanted muscle, he'd probably get devils like vs the Resistance. Here, he wants the info-gathering and collation the Quinton can give him PLUS he gets an army of Modrons that's going to be individually underwhelming but phenomenally well organized and virtually endless. He could probably send a squad of low level Modrons through every single door simultaneously, know exactly which doors are clear and have a detailed map of the initial part of the entire complex in like 5 minutes. I mean, 5 minutes after the chanting is done, however long that takes.
The point being, the Modrons give him flexible, coordinated muscle plus info gathering."You are what you do. Choose again and change." - Miles Vorkosigan
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2022-08-11, 11:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1264 - The Discussion Thread
It is a running gag, a line which has been used 5 times previously by the MitD, and twice by others.