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    Quote Originally Posted by RatElemental View Post
    The uniform expansion thing applies here too, if I recall correctly. Something about space between the subatomic particles getting big enough that the strong force can't hold stuff together anymore. This would require that the universal expansion never stop accelerating though because it needs to expand faster than the forces can pull stuff back together for that to happen I think.
    I don't think that the expansion applies to objects, rather than the space between them. The W'pedia article about the future of an expanding universe doesn't mention it, but I'm not highly confident in that article's reliability. This is all quite speculative. The article does mention that quantum tunnelling could allow "large" non-black-hole-mass objects to turn into black holes, which would then evaporate into subatomic particles and photons. And it raises the possibility that bound neutrons could decay, which would ultimately cause even stable atoms to disintegrate -- a loss of neutrons would leave a nucleus with an excess of protons, which is traditionally "relieved" by loss of an alpha particle or emission of a positron.

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    I love the fact that, in this forum, every new page thread starts with "OMG, [character] is [something]ing! I laughed!", then around page five is "Well, actually this rule is mostly intended as a de facto viable tactic for spooning ogres." and ends in "Let's discuss the moral implication of formal language in the achievement of transcendental scientific knowledge."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentio III View Post
    I love the fact that, in this forum, every new page thread starts with "OMG, [character] is [something]ing! I laughed!", then around page five is "Well, actually this rule is mostly intended as a de facto viable tactic for spooning ogres." and ends in "Let's discuss the moral implication of formal language in the achievement of transcendental scientific knowledge."
    You're completely skipping the devolution into Star Wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurentio III View Post
    "Well, actually this rule is mostly intended as a de facto viable tactic for spooning ogres."
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    This, in a nutshell.
    Yes, exactly.

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    You're completely skipping the devolution into Star Wars.
    Would the Force counteract the inevitable entropic heat death of the Star Wars universe?

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    Would the Force counteract the inevitable entropic heat death of the Star Wars universe?
    It's proven to not be a closed system by the invasion of external to their universe forces.
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    It's proven to not be a closed system by the invasion of external to their universe forces.
    I'm guessing that's EU stuff, so i don't know what it is. I've only seen movies 2, 4, 5, 6 (best one), 7, 8, 9 (worst one).

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    One of the book series had that plot line, IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The MunchKING View Post
    It's proven to not be a closed system by the invasion of external to their universe forces.
    External to their galaxy, not their universe.
    Quote Originally Posted by WanderingMist View Post
    I'm guessing that's EU stuff, so i don't know what it is. I've only seen movies 2, 4, 5, 6 (best one), 7, 8, 9 (worst one).
    You're not missing much.

    Same for the prequels that you haven't seen.
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    External to their galaxy, not their universe.


    You're not missing much.

    Same for the prequels that you haven't seen.
    I've heard good things about the Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons though so I might check those out.

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    I've heard good things about the Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons though so I might check those out.
    I think Clone Wars has the same nostalgia-goggles that the prequel movies in general have, but I did enjoy Rebels. Mandalorian was great, and I really enjoyed Rogue One. There's a good chance you'd like it. Andor is turning out to be way better than it has any business being as well.

    I don't think you'd need to worry about this, but don't watch Resistance. It's aimed at a significantly younger audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    You're not missing much.
    The Zahn books were good.

    And I really loved the Decipher CCG back in the day.

    Young Jedi might have been mostly good because I was at the right age for it at the time.

    And this might be controversial, but I loved the Ewok cartoon and the Ewok comics as a kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The MunchKING View Post
    The Zahn books were good.
    I was referring to the New Jedi Order series, dealing with the Yuuzhan Vong. Although overall for the EU, yeah, that sentiment still holds true. And I've got over 120 of the novels in my basement (not counting the YA books)!
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    I don't think that the expansion applies to objects, rather than the space between them. The W'pedia article about the future of an expanding universe doesn't mention it, but I'm not highly confident in that article's reliability. This is all quite speculative. The article does mention that quantum tunnelling could allow "large" non-black-hole-mass objects to turn into black holes, which would then evaporate into subatomic particles and photons. And it raises the possibility that bound neutrons could decay, which would ultimately cause even stable atoms to disintegrate -- a loss of neutrons would leave a nucleus with an excess of protons, which is traditionally "relieved" by loss of an alpha particle or emission of a positron.
    That's the thing, objects aren't just one solid lump of stuff, they're made up of lots of little objects, and the space between those can increase as the universe expands. If it expands fast enough it'll rip all those subatomic particles away from each other: The Big Rip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    I think Clone Wars has the same nostalgia-goggles that the prequel movies in general have, but I did enjoy Rebels. Mandalorian was great, and I really enjoyed Rogue One. There's a good chance you'd like it. Andor is turning out to be way better than it has any business being as well.

    I don't think you'd need to worry about this, but don't watch Resistance. It's aimed at a significantly younger audience.
    Huh. I thought people didn't like the CGI clone wars cartoon at first and it only grew on them over time. As for being aimed at a significantly younger audience, do you mean like pre-schoolers or the 6-11 group, since the second group is technically what The Owl House which is my favorite show, is aimed at [not that it even bothers pretending to be aimed at them].
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    Quote Originally Posted by RatElemental View Post
    That's the thing, objects aren't just one solid lump of stuff, they're made up of lots of little objects, and the space between those can increase as the universe expands. If it expands fast enough it'll rip all those subatomic particles away from each other: The Big Rip.
    Hmm. I found the W'pedia article about it. I can't judge the concept on its merits, but it doesn't seem to be well-regarded. I do have a bias against fringe physics theories coming out of Dartmouth College.

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