OOTS #1269 - The Discussion Thread

[KorvinStarmast]

Owning more stools than you have people to sit on them is perfectly normal, and everyone I know does it.

Presuming that the stools in question are not toilets (yes, that is a usage that's not seen much anymore).

Spoiler: a reference FWIW

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There was a Larry the Cable guy joke that went somewhere along the lines of "The cripple stool is the Cadillac of the poopin' stools"

I guess I learn another thing I thought was normal is weird and yet strangely common in my experience.

You are good. Most child play tables (like the one I bought for and put together for my grand daughter) come with two or 4 mini chairs but there's only one child.

I think turning several mimics into a fake Gate or something like that would be be more beneficial to the Order. We'll see!

+1 for this thought.

He has Freedom of Movement from his new shoes though. So lichs don't have glue immunity but Xykon does.

Good catch, I forgot about the golashes.

[dancrilis]

He has Freedom of Movement from his new shoes though. So lichs don't have glue immunity but Xykon does.

That is why I was surprised that he didn't have immunity - the shoes don't seem to grant it against mimics.

Freedom of Movement works like this:

The subject automatically succeeds on any grapple check made to resist a grapple attempt, as well as on grapple checks or Escape Artist checks made to escape a grapple or a pin.

Cut and bolded for clarity.

Where Mimics work like this:

A mimic exudes a thick slime that acts as a powerful adhesive, holding fast any creatures or items that touch it. An adhesive-covered mimic automatically grapples any creature it hits with its slam attack. Opponents so grappled cannot get free while the mimic is alive without removing the adhesive first.

So where it is/was very easy to think that Xykon is immune - my reading it that sense no opposed grapple check is made to start the grapple and no grapple check or escape artist check is made to escape while the mimic is still alive therefore Freedom of Movement does not protect against mimic grapples.

Hence my 'huh, it works like that?' moment.

[NobleCuriosity]

I just noticed the double meaning in the strip title. I’m amused and a bit embarrassed that it took me this long.

Also, glad to see that the archive ordering got fixed!

[Wintermoot]

Well, the half of my house that might be slightly smaller in terms of useful surface area than that room has three chairs, two armchairs (one of them isn't mine) and two stools (I wouldn't sit on); the other half, that's, well, actually still slightly smaller than Serini's has seven chairs, a large armchair and a stool. I also have a folding chair and a folding stool in storage.

Nobody ever comes to visit.

Sounds like you make some very inefficient furnishing decisions. I guess that tracks for a plant.

[danielxcutter]

It's worth noting that Knowledge(dungeoneering) is a Ranger class skill.

[bunsen_h]

Presuming that the stools in question are not toilets (yes, that is a usage that's not seen much anymore).

Or the stuff that goes into toilets, of course.

(Which most people don't keep long-term, with a few exceptions such as coproliths.)

[gatemansgc]

Y'know, I always thought Kraggor was the old party member Belkar would best get along with, but this dynamic has certainly proved me wrong.

they're certainly getting along well!

must be that halfling sense of humor!

[Riftwolf]

That is why I was surprised that he didn't have immunity - the shoes don't seem to grant it against mimics.

...

Hence my 'huh, it works like that?' moment.

Ah ok sorry for assuming you'd forgotten the FOM-shoes, I thought you'd looked at the lich statblock.

It's almost like 3.5 is full of counterintuitive rule cludges.

[Laurentio III]

I don't get why someone should be surprised that an person living alone could own three stools.
To start, one is used as a night table, so it hardly counts.
Them she is a very old person. You can't expect her to move a stool around the room everytime she need to reach the pepper pot. Even if she is a very athletic halfling, still is old and fragil. So having one stool neat the table and a second one around is just sensible.

[Fyraltari]

I don't get why someone should be surprised that an person living alone could own three stools.

Five, not three.

[Laurentio III]

Five, not three.

I don't get why someone on this forum should be surprised that a person living alone could own three stools. And two friendly mimics.

[Metastachydium]

I don't get why someone on this forum should be surprised that a person living alone could own three stools. And two friendly mimics.

Well, if one has two friendly mimics under the same roof, one's not actually living alone.

[Ruck]

Five, not three.

"One, two, five!"
"Three!"
"Three!"

[Fyraltari]

"One, two, five!"
"Three!"
"Three!"

Spoiler: Pay up!

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[Quizatzhaderac]

I know who the other two stools (the real ones) are for, the two mimics! They can take humanoid form right? Maybe not a convincing form like a doppelganger, but they should at least be able to manager a mannequin that moves.

Although, also we might take the extra stools as evidence that she meets with the bugbears.

[Ruck]

Spoiler: Pay up!

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Most of the threads on here devolve into discussions of properties I have no real knowledge of or way to reference, so when the opportunity to reference one I do know and everyone will recognize comes up, I'm gonna take it.

[Peelee]

Most of the threads on here devolve into discussions of properties I have no real knowledge of or way to reference, so when the opportunity to reference one I do know and everyone will recognize comes up, I'm gonna take it.

I'd make more In Bruges references but the forum rules from upon excessive amounts of profanities in posts.

[Ruck]

I'd make more In Bruges references but the forum rules from upon excessive amounts of profanities in posts.

I guess I could argue the same about The Shield references, except that it's more that practically nobody has seen it from what I can tell and they really should. I guess I could work in more 30 Rock and It's Always Sunny, they seem reasonably popular.

[Peelee]

except that it's more that practically nobody has seen it from what I can tell and they really should.

I legit don't know whether you're talking about The Shield or In Bruges there.

[LadyEowyn]

Serini being part-troll now is a pun.

Except really, she’s all-troll.

[Jasdoif]

except that it's more that practically nobody has seen it from what I can tell and they really should.

I legit don't know whether you're talking about The Shield or In Bruges there.

Perhaps UHF, The Court Jester or Rocketman?

[Ruck]

I legit don't know whether you're talking about The Shield or In Bruges there.

Personally I was talking about The Shield, but practically speaking it's probably both. I can't tell if more people have seen In Bruges than The Shield-- maybe not in the world, but I guess I tend to interact with people who are more cinephiles and tend to prefer the prestige TV shows that, to put it bluntly, look like there was a lot of money put into the production.

Perhaps UHF, The Court Jester or Rocketman?

Unfortunately, I can't help you on any count there. I guess I can always go with classic Simpsons if I need some easy laughs.

[Laurentio III]

Although, also we might take the extra stools as evidence that she meets with the bugbears.

We don't speak about "bugbears' monday night". It's a private matter.

[Arcane_Secrets]

I don’t think I’m ever again going to sit down in a public restroom without checking the seat for eyes… <shudder>

I really need to make a meme of a toilet growing arms, legs, and teeth like a Dark Souls 3 mimic.

[greenfunkman]

This is really a comment on the last strip, but it's definitely Elan's hitherto-unknown skill which is going to save the day soon, eh?

After all, he's shown hidden talent before: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0141.html

(Apologies if this was discussed to death in the last thread)

[Laurentio III]

This is really a comment on the last strip, but it's definitely Elan's hitherto-unknown skill which is going to save the day soon, eh?

After all, he's shown hidden talent before: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0141.html

(Apologies if this was discussed to death in the last thread)

Considering that Elan is a master in "Tripping on the Plot" and the only one having a discussion di Sunny, you could be right.

[mashlagoo1982]

If Durkon is going to fall for Belkar's prank like that so easily, I feel Durkon deserves being pranked.

At least it is a harmless prank. Belkar has done far worse to his fellow party members in the past. Maybe this is his less-evil (but still evil) showing through.

[dancrilis]

A lot of people are talking about Belkar's actions as a innocent prank against Durkon - seemingly overlooking that it was the Mimic that was nervous and Belkar was arranging for Durkon to assault it.

Points for Belkar clarifing with Serini that she had no particularly issue with this in case she flipped out at her friends being manhandled.

[Trixie_One]

I'd almost be willing to argue that the internet *speeds up* the way language changes.

I'd say this is certainly true, and if anything I get frustrated by how quickly what were once useful terms devolve into uselessness becoming generic derogatory insults applied to something that is disliked. See the examples of a disliked female character being called a 'Mary Sue' or 'Karen' or a male character being called an 'Incel'.

[bunsen_h]

I'd say this is certainly true, and if anything I get frustrated by how quickly what were once useful terms devolve into uselessness becoming generic derogatory insults applied to something that is disliked. See the examples of a disliked female character being called a 'Mary Sue' or 'Karen' or a male character being called an 'Incel'.

Has "incel" devolved to being a generic insult, as opposed to referring to a deeply-misogynistic guy who can't find a partner? Even the latter is a devolution, from the original meaning of someone who simply hadn't been able to find a partner, with no association with misogyny or the gender of the person. (I'm acquainted with the woman who set up the original "involuntarily celibate" mailing list, and who was horrified to learn what her movement had become after she moved on to other things.)