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    OOTS 1114: Elan's first guess for who "you people" referred to was puppeteers, and the fourth was going to be humans. Anyone have any ideas what 2 and 3 were going to be?
    I mean, I assume one of them would be bards, but that still leaves one unaccounted for.

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    Bards, my family, adventurers, artists, idiots, healers... pick any two and go for it, really. I've always guessed "bards" and "adventurers" myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Mechanus View Post
    Bards, my family, adventurers, artists, idiots, healers... pick any two and go for it, really. I've always guessed "bards" and "adventurers" myself.
    Idiots and bards would be redundant, would they not?
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    Idiots and bards would be redundant, would they not?
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    Shame on you sir, I'll have you know that intelligence is often the second highest stat for bards, particularly skill monkey and social types.
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    CLASSIST! we've got a classist here!

    Shame on you sir, I'll have you know that intelligence is often the second highest stat for bards, particularly skill monkey and social types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeetusmcgeetus View Post
    OOTS 1114: Elan's first guess for who "you people" referred to was puppeteers, and the fourth was going to be humans. Anyone have any ideas what 2 and 3 were going to be?
    I mean, I assume one of them would be bards, but that still leaves one unaccounted for.
    Being a bit more serious now, it looks like the guess is going from specific to broad. So puppeteers being very specific, and humans being as broad as possible, I'm thinking Bard would be guess #3 while #2 is something like "storyteller" since that's a subsect of bardic profession.
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    I always assumed something like this:

    1. Puppeteer
    2. Bard
    3. Adventurer
    4. Human

    Also going from specific to general, and from Elan's point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhonLord View Post
    CLASSIST! we've got a classist here!
    You can leave the name calling at home.
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    Shame on you sir, I'll have you know that intelligence is often the second highest stat for bards, particularly skill monkey and social types.
    No, Elan's been a buffoon since about strip 1. Belkar made a remark about taking the biggest dump since Elan assigned his INT stat... would take me a while to find the strip... at the moment, not worth the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZhonLord View Post
    Shame on you sir, I'll have you know that intelligence is often the second highest stat for bards, particularly skill monkey and social types.
    No, Elan's been a buffoon since about strip 1.
    ... And? Nobody said intelligence was Elan's second highest stat, or that all bards ever always had intelligence as the second highest stat. I'm from Alabama and I hate grits, does that mean that people from Alabama don't often enjoy grits? Ten bonus points to whoever quotes My Cousin Vinny, btw
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    I'm from Alabama and I hate grits, does that mean that people from Alabama don't often enjoy grits?
    The real question is if they're instant. And if the judge was a Munster.
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    The real question is if they're instant. And if the judge was a Munster.
    The real-real question is whether they prefer them with cheese and/or jalapeno, and if they want shrimp on them or fried eggs.

    That's more than one question.

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    Idiots and bards would be redundant, would they not?
    CLASSIST! we've got a classist here!
    Shame on you sir, I'll have you know that intelligence is often the second highest stat for bards, particularly skill monkey and social types.
    You can leave the name calling at home.
    Says the same person who just said bards and idiots are equivalent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearl jam View Post
    Says the same person who just said bards and idiots are equivalent?
    Well, if no one gives you the cues for your punchlines you'll have to make them yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearl jam View Post
    Says the same person who just said bards and idiots are equivalent?
    I suggest you go back and ungoof the quote; somewher in the edit/reply process, you have me saying something the other poster said. (Happens to me with some frequency when I miss or add one of those {/quote] or {quote] things).
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    1. Puppeteers
    2. Bards
    3. The Order of the Stick
    4. Humans
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    1. Puppeteers;
    2. founding fathers of churches;
    3. blond folks males in happy and fulfilling lon-term relationships;
    4. humans.
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    blond folks;
    Hilgya wouldn't call blond folks "your people".
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    Hilgya wouldn't call blond folks "your people".

    Fair enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KorvinStarmast View Post
    I suggest you go back and ungoof the quote; somewher in the edit/reply process, you have me saying something the other poster said. (Happens to me with some frequency when I miss or add one of those {/quote] or {quote] things).
    Ah, oops! Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post
    The real question is if they're instant. And if the judge was a Munster.
    Also... whether you got your grits from the same place Jack got his magic beans.

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    The real question is if they're instant.
    No self-respectin' southerner uses instant grits.
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    Also... whether you got your grits from the same place Jack got his magic beans.
    I'm a fast cook, I guess!
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    No self-respectin' southerner uses instant grits.
    Ah yes, the "No True Grit" fallacy.
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    Ah yes, the "No True Grit" fallacy.
    I take pride in my grits.
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    I take pride in my grits.
    Related, what's a grit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peelee View Post
    I take pride in my grits.
    Which helps establish the proper timeline! I only saw My Cousin Vinny once.

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    Related, what's a grit?
    Grits are a type of porridge based on maize/corn. It's one of those strange words that's become almost exclusively used in the plural when talking about food; whereas the singular is more about coarseness in sand/tone/stone.
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    Related, what's a grit?
    It's made out of corn. Them hominy grits.
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    I only saw My Cousin Vinny once.
    The kids were on trial for murder but I think this is the real crime.

    It's the most procedurally accurate legal movie ever made! They use it as a teaching aid in numerous law schools! And it's got one of the greatest actors of our time, Joe Pesci! Truly it is a masterpiece for the ages.
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    It's the most procedurally accurate legal movie ever made! They use it as a teaching aid in numerous law schools! And it's got one of the greatest actors of our time, Joe Pesci!
    And the last film appearance of Fred Gwynne, who is probably more recognizable as Herman Munster on The Munsters.
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    And the last film appearance of Fred Gwynne, who is probably more recognizable as Herman Munster on The Munsters.
    And Marissa Tomei got an Oscar for it despite it being a silly comedy.

    Its a helluva movie.
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    And Marissa Tomei got an Oscar for it
    Mute testimony to how irrelevant the Oscars are.
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    The kids were on trial for murder but I think this is the real crime.
    Yup. Great film. If I'm channel surfing (yeah, some of us still do that, stop judging me!), and I see this, doesn't matter how far into it it is, I'll stop and watch the rest.

    Seriously. It's that good of a film. If you haven't seen it, just watch. It's just this magical balance of fun, sarcastic, dramatic, silly, serious(ish), and a ton of other superlative things. The character portrayals by Pesci and Tomei are simultaneously over the top and yet perfect at the same time. There are no actual "bad guys" in the film at all. The antagonist is the legal system (but not on a condemnatory way, just "really unlucky circumstances"). And it does a very good job of showing the legal process as well without it ever being out of reach for any random person to understand and follow.

    And yeah. The courtroom scenes make the film. I watch that film, then I watch literally any courtroom scene from Law and Order, and I just shake my head (at how absolutely horrifically nonsensically bad the latter is, especially for a show where the hook is supposed to be that the "courtroom" aspects are to be equal to the police work aspects). So yeah. Go watch it.

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