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    *Sigh*

    Fate point.

    Int check: (1d100)[8] vs TN 44.
    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Fatepoints refreshing nightly is pretty generous when you're not actually dungeon crawling. And this time it even paid off!

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    It's a bit of a life-saver when the forum roller loathes you as much as it does me lol.
    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    The question of potential phobias is a tricky one. Realistically, someone who'd been a slave for 10 years to Skaven wouldn't be anywhere near as well adjusted as she's coming along. But some creative license is being granted due to it being an adventure game. It wouldn't be much fun to play a constantly anxious, paranoid, terrified former slave who'd likely just break into peoples homes, steal things and flee, becoming a hermit on the edge of society.

    For her phobias I originally thought maybe a fear of open spaces. But that would've seen her quickly flee back into the cave.

    I think I started to slip one into a post a bit ago - when Riana and Gaulfredo were arguing, about how that meant for her that someone was going to get beaten. So a fear of shouting/people talking loudly. Not crippling, but puts her on edge.


    I'm still pondering what the next one could be.

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    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Making a color check: (1d7)[3]

    Being accepted to join the dance: (1d100)[46] vs TN 34
    Making an agility check: (1d100)[42] vs TN 62

    Some gossip rolls:
    1: (1d100)[88] vs TN 34.
    2. (1d100)[80] vs TN 44.
    3. (1d100)[30] vs TN 54.
    4. (1d100)[96] vs TN 64.


    Willpower: (1d100)[7] TN ~34


    Of course.
    Last edited by BananaPhone; 2022-12-07 at 01:32 AM.
    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Hmmm, try and use two fate points to re-roll that Dancy roll and the first gossip roll:

    She was the daaaancing queen, only seventeeeeen: (1d100)[74] vs TN 34 - guess she wasn't.

    She was a gosssiiiip: (1d100)[81] vs TN 34 - guess she wasn't.


    I swear this roller is going to get me killed in the first dangerous situations she encounters.

    Passed 2 rolls out of 8 though, so hooray, so that's something.

    At least playing with the kids doesn't need a roll. Knowing the forum roller, a kid would ask her to hold her up as high as she could and she'd drop him on his head from eight and a half feet up.
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    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Alas; the spectacle is perhaps too intimidating for poor Taalia to throw herself into right away. New people, new place; and she has never danced before, except perhaps standing on the toes of her father's shoes, waltzing in the kitchen. But she tried! She's a trier, and that'll get her far in this world.

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    I think that's the biggest post I've ever made for the game hah.
    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Poor Taalia. Her school girl crush shattered. Poor lass.



    *Reads career description*

    Boo, hiss lol.

    The way I was forward-thinking about it, she'd enjoy the 'trade' side of the tradesman, particularly working with gadgets, maybe even gunsmithing.

    The Roadwarden, while yes a school girl crush that'd never work out (I'm assuming he's older than 21, which would be the limit age for such a thing to not be creepy, even in the medieval period we're rp'ing in lol) did had a few things on appeal, such as how to use guns, ride a horse and incline her more towards protecting her new community, given her physical ability to do so (and enjoyment of nature).

    The entertainer/violinist, I could totally see Taalia learning how to sing and really enjoy it, creating something beautiful.

    Even Ariana (Peasant) and Gaulfredo (Farmer) I can see some sort of combination: learning how to cook and using Ariana as a female role model, while her inclination towards work and more strenuous physical activity (plus her future 'sheep/chicken' idea) being more in the farmer role.

    The Hedge Apprentice seems the most fitting 'first' career for the next few years. It's got all the skills of Peasant/Farmer (Minus cooking), such as animal care, Charm animal, haggle etc plus the super awesome Apothecary and Herbalist.

    Not beginning a path down magic though, boo hiss hehe. Though there is still that book I remember her getting, and I looked up the costs of books in Old World Armory and yowza! Even damaged.


    Though Hedgecraft Apprentice also has Prepare Poisons.

    *Taalia glares at her new yellow-dressed rival*

    Har har, only kidding.
    Last edited by BananaPhone; 2022-12-07 at 09:45 AM.
    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaPhone View Post
    Poor Taalia. Her school girl crush shattered. Poor lass.



    *Reads career description*

    Boo, hiss lol.

    The way I was forward-thinking about it, she'd enjoy the 'trade' side of the tradesman, particularly working with gadgets, maybe even gunsmithing.

    The Roadwarden, while yes a school girl crush that'd never work out (I'm assuming he's older than 21, which would be the limit age for such a thing to not be creepy, even in the medieval period we're rp'ing in lol) did had a few things on appeal, such as how to use guns, ride a horse and incline her more towards protecting her new community, given her physical ability to do so (and enjoyment of nature).

    The entertainer/violinist, I could totally see Taalia learning how to sing and really enjoy it, creating something beautiful.

    Even Ariana (Peasant) and Gaulfredo (Farmer) I can see some sort of combination: learning how to cook and using Ariana as a female role model, while her inclination towards work and more strenuous physical activity (plus her future 'sheep/chicken' idea) being more in the farmer role.

    The Hedge Apprentice seems the most fitting 'first' career for the next few years. It's got all the skills of Peasant/Farmer (Minus cooking), such as animal care etc plus the super awesome Apothecary and Herbalist.

    Not beginning a path down magic though, boo hiss hehe. Though there is still that book I remember her getting, and I looked up the costs of books in Old World Armory and yowza! Even damaged.
    MMMwhachasaaaay. Perfect gag, 10/10.

    You'll have to work on Maso a little more to get apprenticed, but it's definitely in the cards. If you were leaning towards Peasant or Farmer, there's a ton of overlap there; you get a smidge more strength out of farmer, plus intimidate, haggle, evaluate, dealmaker, and the ability to swing either and/or a great weapon, instead of a peasantly sling. Basically all the economic farm-management stuff plus some bits and bobs, (and, insanely, a career exit into Veteran; but since we're doing a "find a mentor" thing, Veteran will wait until you're... well, you know. A soldier of some accomplishment learning under a mentor!

    Peasant gets tons of options that farmer doesn't; including Performer: Dance and Sing, if you wanted those aspects as you mentioned. Forgive me if I sound like a Peasant Salesman right now; I just like the class a lot!

    But hedge apprentice does offer a lot; stats where you need them most, +10's to your concealment and move silent, the all important Perception, Read/Write. All it lacks, really, is something to use that improved Fellowship on - besides Gossip No Charm or intimidate; but if you finished that career, you can always pop over to Peasant to get those bits afterward. It also has Animal Care (raise and tend animals) and Charm animal (settle or manage wild or aggressive animals), but not Train animal, which is neat to have. But again, easilly picked up in a fly-by in Peasant or Farmer after the fact.

    Oh, and you already have the lucky charm; you just need some of the other med stuff. If you wanted to post any MMmwhachasay stuff, you can do so - otherwise I'll put together the shopping trip tomorrow!

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    It's super tempting, but Taalia will just look she just had the life taken out of her and switch between jealousy/hatred for Yellow Dress and self-loathing over her scar. Rocco's simple-minded presence would snap her out of it soon, and she'd leave with her ego hurt, but ultimately putting it out of her mind relatively quickly.

    So I guess shopping tomorrow! Given her two plans, it'll depend on what's available.
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    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    *Yellowdress unzips at the collar; vengeful rat man winks sinister from within the suit.*

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    Oof, poor Bertuccio . One of them is really dedicated to this deception.
    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Though, question, if Taalia doesn't gain access to things on the Hedgecraft Apprentice list atm, the Petty Magic (Hedge) talent and Speak Language (Arcane), by extension I'm assuming that also means she doesn't have acccess to Magic +1? Or Magical Sense and Channeling?

    So that's five advances she doesnt have access to? For now, of course.

    Is it possible to substitute other things that sound reasonable? Like Trade (Cook), Trade (Farmer), Charm and Weapon Specialist (Gunpowder) ?

    I understand that in the long run this works in her favour. But in the short term it...softens the blow lol.

    Also, when would she get her Gossip human skill back?
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    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Though, question, if Taalia doesn't gain access to things on the Hedgecraft Apprentice list atm, the Petty Magic (Hedge) talent and Speak Language (Arcane), by extension I'm assuming that also means she doesn't have acccess to Magic +1? Or Magical Sense and Channeling?

    So that's five advances she doesnt have access to? For now, of course.

    Is it possible to substitute other things that sound reasonable? Like Trade (Cook), Trade (Farmer), Charm and Weapon Specialist (Gunpowder) ?

    I understand that in the long run this works in her favour. But in the short term it...softens the blow lol.

    Also, when would she get her Gossip human skill back?
    Hmm. HMM. Well.

    I'm reluctant to allow too much chop-and-change; the career system, and finding the appropriate mentors, are the core parts of WFRP2e and my plan for this game respectively. But I'll admit I'm doing surgery on the Apprentice Hedgewise career right now anyway, to make it suit my purposes. He's what I'll offer.

    We'll call this a rural, farmland variant of Hedgewise Apprentice. It looses the +1 Magic advance, and gains another +1 W advance (which you already cover).

    It loses the Petty Magic (Hedge) talent option and instead gains the Surgery talent option.

    It loses the Channeling skill option for Charm.
    It loses the Magic Sense skill option for Trade (Farmer).
    It loses the Speak Arcane Language (Magick) option for Trade (Cook).

    I can't rationalize gun training in there, though. I'm happy to say she takes some lessons on use from Bertuccio over the time she's in the village; enough to become familiar, but not enough to become trained. That'll have to wait for a career where it's genuinely available.

    How's that sound? Also, I have posted shopping options.

    Edit: You'll regain the ability to gossip, I think, once you're fluent in Tilean, and capable of practicing gossip more casually. You're 1/3 of the way there!
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    I'll answer that in a moment (mostly yes with question hah).


    But because I'm a nerd with an over-active imagination and some time on my hands at work at my desk, I did some napkin numbers:


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    50gc
    34gc sheep + pen
    12gc oxen

    = 4gc left over

    + 4 gold and 4 silver for the clothes and mask

    = 8 g 4 silver

    Offered price for the chickens + coop comes to about 0.5gc per 1 bird coop space
    7.5g * 0.5gc = coup for 15 birds
    = leaves 14 silver left (14 x 12 = 288 pennies worth)
    = chickens 5 pennies each = 15 * 5 = 75 pennies

    = 15 birds
    ~ 90 eggs a week (6 eggs each)
    ~ 7 dozen eggs with 5 eggs left over as tribute to Gaulfredo/Ariana for cooking and breakage etc.

    4 months:
    First week:
    7x dozen eggs x 15 pennies = 105 pennies
    ~ 10 pennies per week in food, but mostly grazing.
    = 95 pennies
    x16 for full 4 months
    = 1,520 pennies
    - 1,440 = 6gc
    - 80 pennies = 6 silver, 8 pennies

    6gc expands coop by 16 to 30 birds and 3 roosters


    Next 4 months:
    30 hens = 180 eggs a week
    = 15 dozen eggs per week
    10x 15 pennies per week = 225 pennies
    x16 weeks
    = 3,600
    = 15gc

    Having reached limit of expansion, she just maintains this
    amount:

    Last 4 months:
    - Repeat
    = 15gc

    30gc end of year at Taalia Poultry Farms
    - Food already counted in
    - 15% to her landlord, Gaulfredo (4.5gc, basically +18% bonus
    to his own estimated income)
    - 15% estimated taxes
    = 21gc for the girl, making her a rich farmer.

    Then the sheep income of 66 gold crowns from the wool.
    - Can't see much food cost as they're just grazing, but let's say 5%.
    - 15% to her landlord, Gaulfredo (9.9gc, a +40% boost to his estimated income)
    - 1 days skilled labour to shear the sheep (let's say she's generous and pays 1 silver)
    - 15% estimated taxes
    = 46gc and 3 silver

    So a rough estimate of her potential 1st year as a frankensteinian Hedgecraft Apprentice and farmer career, she earns about 67 gold crowns and 3 silver from her flock of sheep and chickens. Meanwhile, landlord Gaulfredo nets about 14.4gc from his new enterprising tenant, which is about +57.6% boost to his estimated yearly earnings.

    The chickens and sheep being relatively lowish maintanence, she could hire
    a boy to also help her own so that she can learn from Madre (if that's the path
    she goes down, which seems likely).

    However, the sheep will have 1-2 lambs during the year. So they can either be sold for meat (yielding another 10-20 gold crowns)
    or the pen expanded and the wool harvested and future lambs sold the next year and the ensuing yielding another:
    - 66 to 132 gold crowns in total for the wool from 10-15 sheep.
    - 20 to 60 gold selling the 1-2 lambs produced by 10-15 sheep.

    So that's a decision they can come to at the end of the year.

    But using her windfall of that mirror, some drive, her big brian and money/haggling/economic knowledge, she could be making between153 to 259 gold the following year (before taxes, costs etc) in her second year post-freedom when she'd be 19.

    That would allow her to buy her own big of farm land for grazing more sheep and expanding the Coop, while living with and paying Gaulfredo and Ariana.

    The mirror has certainly been a huge windfall lol, not many others get to have such a what is almost 2 years worth of pay fall into their lap combined with hosts who already own a farm and have things established to let someone put it to use.

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    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaPhone View Post
    I'll answer that in a moment (mostly yes with question hah).


    But because I'm a nerd with an over-active imagination and some time on my hands at work at my desk, I did some napkin numbers:


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    50gc
    34gc sheep + pen
    12gc oxen

    = 4gc left over

    + 4 gold and 4 silver for the clothes and mask

    = 8 g 4 silver

    Cost is 0.5gc per 1 bird coop space
    = 16 birds
    ~ 96 eggs a week (6 each)
    ~ 8 dozen eggs

    4 months:
    First week:
    8x dozen eggs x 15 pennies = 120 pennies
    ~ 10 pennies per week in food, but mostly grazing.
    = 110 pennies
    x16 for full 4 months
    = 1,760 pennies
    - 1,680 = 7gc
    - 80 pennies = 6 silver, 8 pennies

    7gc expands coop by 14 to 30 birds and 3 roosters


    Next 4 months:
    30 hens = 180 eggs a week
    = 15 dozen eggs per week
    10x 15 pennies per week = 225 pennies
    x16 weeks
    = 3,600
    = 15gc

    Having reached limit of expansion, she just maintains this
    amount:

    Last 4 months:
    - Repeat
    = 15gc

    30gc end of year at Taalia Poultry Farms
    - Food already counted in
    - 15% to her landlord, Gaulfredo (4.5gc, basically +18% bonus
    to his own estimated income)
    - 15% estimated taxes
    = 21gc for the girl, making her a rich farmer.

    Then the sheep income of 66 gold crowns from the wool.
    - Can't see much food cost as they're just grazing, but let's say 5%.
    - 15% to her landlord, Gaulfredo (9.9gc, a +40% boost to his estimated income)
    - 1 days skilled labour to shear the sheep (let's say she's generous and pays 1 silver)
    - 15% estimated taxes
    = 46gc and 3 silver

    So a rough estimate of her potential 1st year as a frankensteinian Hedgecraft Apprentice and farmer career, she earns about 67 gold crowns and 3 silver from her flock of sheep and chickens. Meanwhile, landlord Gaulfredo nets about 14.4gc from his new enterprising tenant, which is about +57.6% boost to his estimated yearly earnings.

    The chickens and sheep being relatively lowish maintanence, she could hire
    a boy to also help her own so that she can learn from Madre (if that's the path
    she goes down, which seems likely).

    However, the sheep will have 1-2 lambs during the year. So they can either be sold for meat (yielding another 10-20 gold crowns)
    or the pen expanded and the wool harvested and future lambs sold the next year and the ensuing yielding another:
    - 66 to 132 gold crowns in total for the wool from 10-15 sheep.
    - 20 to 60 gold selling the 1-2 lambs produced by 10-15 sheep.

    So that's a decision they can come to at the end of the year.

    But using her windfall of that mirror, some drive, her big brian and money/haggling/economic knowledge, she could be making between153 to 259 gold the following year (before taxes, costs etc) in her second year post-freedom when she'd be 19.

    That would allow her to buy her own big of farm land for grazing more sheep and expanding the Coop, while living with and paying Gaulfredo and Ariana.

    The mirror has certainly been a huge windfall lol, not many others get to have such a what is almost 2 years worth of pay fall into their lap combined with hosts who already own a farm and have things established to let someone put it to use.

    It's true. On the net calculation, you would still say she's unlucky; what with the slavery and all.

    And all of that earning calculation assumes smooth sailing in all regards; the reasons that all farmers don't just exponentially zoom off into the sky on their piles of money are manifold. But if you're even half right, it's still pretty good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrAbdiel View Post
    the reasons that all farmers don't just exponentially zoom off into the sky on their piles of money are manifold.
    Of course they don't zoom off, they're weighed down by their huge money bags full of coins .
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    Charm test: [roll]1d100[/roll vs TN 34.


    This is just for RP'ing purposes.
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    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Charm test: (1d100)[52] vs TN 34.
    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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    Good ol' fate point...

    Charm test: (1d100)[39] vs TN 34.

    1 in 3 chance has been a 1 in 8 so far.
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    There's a reason 4e is very explicit in changing the most common difficulty of tests to +20! That's why I do it so much.

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    Instead of the Specialist Weapon (Gunpowder), what if she gained the talent Super Numerate?

    I was just thinking about it (well, thought about it before, but moreso now). Probably has a very high IQ, was good with machines, worked in engineering workshops from a young age. Being very good with numbers and calculating things in her head might make sense.

    Just a thought. Super Numerate only adds to Gamble and Navigation, so it's not actually a mechanical benefit to her atm. We have chopped things up enough, particularly as you wanted to avoid it.

    But I am thinking of how she could train in Gunpowder weapons hah. Even for her small pen of sheep, I could see a pistol or gun coming in handy.

    Do bows need training?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrAbdiel View Post
    And all of that earning calculation assumes smooth sailing in all regards; the reasons that all farmers don't just exponentially zoom off into the sky on their piles of money are manifold. But if you're even half right, it's still pretty good!
    I was actually thinking about this a bit after I got out of my own job and was at my desk. Just looking at the Old World Armory prices and jobs, pay, cost of things etc and I could totally believe that Taalia's luck with the mirror, clothes and living with a family that already has farm land and a house she can live in for free (until she starts earning) has been a combination that's been a huge windfall for her. Like, the type of luck that elevates family lines out of poverty and into higher social standings.

    Like, 90% of the world are peasants, whose base pay is 9-15 gold crowns.

    That's before taxes, and some places tax harsher than others. I did a quick google search about typical medieval tax rates and they were something like 15% (which sounds obscenely low to us now lol). So that would be 7.65 to 12.75 gold crowns after taxes.

    Then there's living expenses. Renting a rural hovel alone is 4gc a year, while an urban house (that they'd doubtless share with others) is 11gc a year.

    So now Mr Peasant is left with between 1.75 gc to 3.65 gold crowns a year. Now they have to pay for clothes and food and drink.

    At the end of that they might have a gold crown or two each year.

    How much does farmable land cost?

    The worst quality, 1 acre lot will set you back 45gc. Mr Peasant will be working for 20 years at least to be able to afford that, but then he'd have to build a rural hovel which is 90 gold crowns. Basically, unless he learns skills (hoping someone teaches him) then he's stuck in whatever crap job in the city or rural area he can get. He couldn't dream about buying a bunch of chickens and making $$ off their eggs. Where would he keep them?

    It doesn't get much better for farmers, as "rich" farmers (key word: rich) earn 15-25 gold crowns. Again, they pay taxes too, so they're down to 12.75 to 21.25 gold crowns, after which they have to rent out at least a rural hovel (4gc each) or a rural house (11gc each). Now they're down to 8.75gc to 10.25gc, but they also have to rent their land, because they're farmers in the rural area. 1 acre of crap rural land will set them back 4gc/year, 1 acre of common rural will set them back 9gc a year. Or would they rather buy it? In that case it'll cost 45gc or 90gc respectively, while "good" 1 acre of farm land will cost 27gc per acre to rent of 270gc acre to buy.

    Then on top of that they have their food and clothes and living expenses. After all that is spent, you can totally see why a sheep is "only" 2gc, because that 2gc is a bloody fortune after the above. Just doing what Taalia is doing with her sheep would cost 34gc, would take decades to save up for, while her chicken idea is still 12gc or so, which again would cost a fortune.

    So after thinking about it for a while, going back and forth wondering "well if it's so easy, why aren't all farmers rich as crap and rolling in the money?", I can totally see why the average farmer with just a couple of decent acres to his name (unless he inherited it or somehow bought it outright), would have to spend years and years saving for one of Taalia's ideas.

    So just reflecting on it, getting that mirror/chest with all its precious items AND having access to farm land to put the animals to use (no use buying a flock of sheep if she's shacked up in some backpackers lodge in a city), is really alignment of the stars, Gods smiling on her stroke of fortune.
    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

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    Very right; and heaven help the peasant who falls ill and needs medicine, or can't work, or whose cows get the bovine pox, or or or or ...

    So it's a fragile earning potential that communities do best to preserve in themselves. Distinct from adventurers who make considerably more cash freebooting; but also are almost certain to die horribly, choked by skeletons in a crypt somewhere or piked over a fire for the orcs!

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    You're going to groan and faceplam again MR GM, but I've found another use for the sheep .


    You see....

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    Each sheep can produce 1-2 litres of milk a day. Let's say 1.5 liters. Right down the middle. Beautiful.

    1.5 x 5 (sheep) = 7.5 litres a day.
    7.5 x 7 days of the week = 52.5 litres a week.
    52.5 litres = 105 lbs of milk a week.

    What can you make with sheeps milk? Butter is one product. But also...and yes I realise how ironic this is...cheese.

    And cheese sells for 50 pennies a lbs according to page 120 of Old World Armory.

    Now it takes about 6 pounds of sheeps milk to make 1 pound of cheese.

    105 lbs of milk / 6 lbs = 17.5 lbs of cheese a week.

    Which she can then sell for 875 pennies when she takes her trip to the market each week.

    That's about 72 silver and 11 pennies. Or 3 gc, 12 silver and 11 pennies each week.

    Across the batch of 4 month periods that's about 58gc, 6 silver and 8 pennies. Or a clean 175gc a year.

    Send that through the wringer of 15% taxes and rent to her landlord Gaulfredo (he nets another 26.25 gc, bringing his total up to ~40gc), and throw in a 17gc a year peasant or young farmer hired helper (maybe some local boy even younger than her; Taalia is a generous boss lol), and that's 96.75gold crowns at Taalia's Poultry and Dairy, combined with the other chicken and wool income streams and that's ~163 gold crowns for her first year of operation.

    Then she uses the lambs to expand her flock to about 10-15 sheep and buys an adjacent acre to house them.

    10 sheep = 350gc
    15 sheep = 525gc


    Now of course as you said this assumes everything goes swimmingly without a hitch. And naturally she'll have to spend a couple of weeks with her Trade (Cooking) skill nailing down different cheese recipes and writing them down into formula for anyone to follow, but it's an incredibly lucrative income stream!

    She'll be able to buy that blunderbuss, two pistols, firearm and a pack of cane corsos in no time .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaPhone View Post
    You're going to groan and faceplam again MR GM, but I've found another use for the sheep .


    You see....

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    Each sheep can produce 1-2 litres of milk a day. Let's say 1.5 liters. Right down the middle. Beautiful.

    1.5 x 5 (sheep) = 7.5 litres a day.
    7.5 x 7 days of the week = 52.5 litres a week.
    52.5 litres = 105 lbs of milk a week.

    What can you make with sheeps milk? Butter is one product. But also...and yes I realise how ironic this is...cheese.

    And cheese sells for 50 pennies a lbs according to page 120 of Old World Armory.

    Now it takes about 6 pounds of sheeps milk to make 1 pound of cheese.

    105 lbs of milk / 6 lbs = 17.5 lbs of cheese a week.

    Which she can then sell for 875 pennies when she takes her trip to the market each week.

    That's about 72 silver and 11 pennies. Or 3 gc, 12 silver and 11 pennies each week.

    Across the batch of 4 month periods that's about 58gc, 6 silver and 8 pennies. Or a clean 175gc a year.

    Send that through the wringer of 15% taxes and rent to her landlord Gaulfredo (he nets another 26.25 gc, bringing his total up to ~40gc), and throw in a 17gc a year peasant or young farmer hired helper (maybe some local boy even younger than her; Taalia is a generous boss lol), and that's 96.75gold crowns at Taalia's Poultry and Dairy, combined with the other chicken and wool income streams and that's ~163 gold crowns for her first year of operation.

    Then she uses the lambs to expand her flock to about 10-15 sheep and buys an adjacent acre to house them.

    10 sheep = 350gc
    15 sheep = 525gc


    Now of course as you said this assumes everything goes swimmingly without a hitch. And naturally she'll have to spend a couple of weeks with her Trade (Cooking) skill nailing down different cheese recipes and writing them down into formula for anyone to follow, but it's an incredibly lucrative income stream!

    She'll be able to buy that blunderbuss, two pistols, firearm and a pack of cane corsos in no time .

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    On a serious note, when you embarked on making this game, did you ever envision large swathes of time in the first act being dedicated to the excitement of cheese production, wool sales and poultry farming?

    I certainly didn't lol. I wouldn't have guessed if you'd have given me a few days to think of different ways the game would go. But I'm having a pretty good time so far hah.
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    I am literally watching cheese making tutorials right now to understand how realistic it is to go from zero to cheesemaking and what kind of complications there might be. There's a limit to how much cheesemaking I am willing to research for this farm simulation! But I'm not at it yet, haha. At some point we're gonna break off into abstraction!

    I hadn't expected it, but I hadn't expected the 13 scars to be quite so extended either - though I had no right to expect anything else, given that I demanded literally 13 traumatic scarring experiences.

    But the idyllic quietude of the farming endeavours is a nice palate cleanser from rat-hell. It's funny to me that Taalia's 'call to adventure' is a beckoning into a placid rural life; strange exciting to navigate.

    EDIT: sorry have to quit game and move to the country to be a homesteader; too much exposure to wholesome rural people talking about country like. gg all, green acres syndrome bye
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    Yeah if any of the network supervisors at work checked my searches recently they'd be very confused. "they thinking of starting a farm or something?" they'd probably ask each other in confusion.

    You're right though about the quiet beauty and physical labour and strategic planning of farm-life is a pallete cleanser after what she's been through, it'll do her well for a few years until she's about 20-21 before that call to hit the road compels her once more. What form that nudge out the door will take, who knows, but she won't be a recently escaped, traumatised slave facing it with nary but rags on her back and a weeny little knife.

    I honestly first thought she'd end up in a city somewhere, and her first career would be Thief.

    Speaking of in game mechanics that hint at something adventurous, do shopkeepers/merchants have scheme where she can acquire, say, a blunderbuss, and pay them with proceeds of each week market visits until having paid the item off? It's a two-day-round trip to make on the roads for a young lady after all...
    "Of all the words by tongue and pen, by far the saddest are "I could have been...""

    "The first rule of success is to have a vision. You see if you don’t have a vision of where you are going, if you don’t have a goal for where to go, you’ll drift around and never end up anywhere...can you imagine a majority of people don't know where they are going? I knew where I was going!” – Arnold Schwarzenegger

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