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2022-11-12, 10:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
Nope. She knows Xykon killed him.
Yes, it is. The fact that Serini had to sneak in is, however, definitive proof that the Oath did not exist merely for the others to get rid of Soon.
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2022-11-12, 10:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
Oh, I do love the callbacks!
Plus baseball.
Hope your break was enjoyable. We missed you Giant!
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2022-11-12, 10:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
Dude, she tells Sunny she doesn't want Dorukan to notice them in his dungeon, therefore, she didn't know that Dorukan was already dead.
So what? If the Oaths was just an excuse to get rid of Soon, he'd welcome Serini in. It looks like Soon was the only one who made absolutely no exception to the Oath, but they all broadly abided by it.Last edited by Fyraltari; 2022-11-12 at 10:42 AM.
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2022-11-12, 10:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
I'm glad the Giant got a break but I do hope that the plot can start moving again soon.
That said, this was a cute callback and Sunny continues to be adorable.
Edited: let a little too much frustration leak though.Last edited by Let'sGetKraken; 2022-11-12 at 10:46 AM.
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2022-11-12, 10:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
Haley does not strike me as the one or the other type. Both is the correct answer.
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2022-11-12, 10:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
I think it's still telling that none of them took the oath entirely seriously. Though it's possible that Dorukan used that age bonus to his Wisdom score to realize that continuing to completely flaunt the oath was a bit of a jackass thing to do, especially when Soon never broke it. Still, Lirian and Dorukan were still continuing their relationship, Girard setting his message trap to alert Serini, and Serini sneaking into Dorukan's Dungeon do show they didn't really care about the oath that much.
Also maybe Dorukan didn't want Serini on his premises for a reason outside the oath.Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
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2022-11-12, 10:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-12, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
This was remarkably fun. The plot did not advance, but it is nice to see Elan and Sunny together. They have a good chemistry together.
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2022-11-12, 11:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-12, 11:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
Actually the "Serini didn't give a crap about the oath" might just provide an easy segway into her talking about the Scribblers.
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2022-11-12, 11:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
"Kind of overdid it on the bat flip" is most likely a reference to Phillies' player Rhys Hoskins spiking the bat (seen here at 0:04), which has become something of a meme in baseball circles, apparently?
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2022-11-12, 11:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-12, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-12, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
I love stories that thread together elements that were going on all along, and the partaker doesn't realize it until well after the fact (if at all). And even stories where it might not've been the intent all along, but it's at least a well-played device to make you think about all the things you didn't know or took for granted. (^_^) <3
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Well, actually...
maybe even killed dorukan either by accident or intentionally. Which in turn gives more reason for her reluctance to respond to V's sendings.
Also I half-wonder if the Giant might've intended us to re-examine the morality of Elan's decision. Not only was he killing the presumably-monstrous remaining inhabitants for lulz, for all he knew then he might've been killing Dorukan or any other good employees who we never saw.
* - I believe it to be true, but I was too lazy to verify it because it matches what I think I remember, thus "asserted"
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Not to mention the interspherical violence. What he did to that poor ball was cold-blooded murder. XD
(Or as I've heard other fans say in similar circumstances, jeez Rhys - that ball had a wife and kids, you know!)Last edited by arimareiji; 2022-11-12 at 12:07 PM. Reason: minor refactors
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2022-11-12, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
Just a random thought; what do we know about the Oath that isn't from Soon?
My thought is what Soon held as an Oath was either a) just a suggestion to the others or b) something the other Scribblers made Soon swear to stop him interfering with the gates. The other Scribblers could maintain some kind of relationship without talking shop, but Soons rigidity made even cordiality impossible.
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2022-11-12, 12:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-12, 12:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-12, 12:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
Interesting that, back then, Serini didn't know
XykonDorukan was dead even some 6 months afterheXykon had killed him and moved in to the Dungeon, but that she does know by the time she first talks to O-Chul and Lien. Perhaps a bit of investigation behind the scenes?Last edited by hamishspence; 2022-11-12 at 02:19 PM.
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2022-11-12, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-12, 12:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
Nah, she always knew Xykon was dead. He's just not dead enough for her comfort.
Well, It's not really my find. The commentary (I think?) of the last book stated that this one would feature an important ally who had only appeared for one panel so far. People started guessing that was Sunny as soon as they were visible. My own guess was it would be this bugbear, who had already shown up somewhat prominently in a wide shot.Forum Wisdom
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2022-11-12, 12:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
Yeah, no. Serini was
1. evidently aware that she had no business being anywhere near Dorukan's and
2. clearly in no contact of any regularity with the wizard, given that she learned about his death more than half a year after the fact.
Further, by his own admission, Girard withheld the coordinates of his Gates from all Scribblers excepting Serini. Those explanations of yours don't quite add up and "there was an Oath, but most Scribblers played loose with it" explains what we've seen so far way better.
Well, Dorukan's Gate blowing up (which she would notice sooner than later) had a tendency to prompt such investigations. The Guard did their own as well.Last edited by Metastachydium; 2022-11-12 at 12:46 PM.
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2022-11-12, 12:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
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2022-11-12, 12:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-12, 12:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
It still effectively became a way to kick Soon out of their social circles entirely. There was at least minimal and sometimes less minimal contact between the other Scribblers. Girard probably withheld his coordinates from the others because… well, he’s Girard, the Paranoid Jackass. He seems even worse than Ian, actually.
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2022-11-12, 12:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
I think there's a really simple explanation as to why Soon took the Oath the most seriously:
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Also, I think it's telling that despite Serini, Shojo, the Draketooths and Dorukan being alerted to the fall of Lirian's Gate, Xykon could lay siege to Dorukan's Dungeon for months without Serini or the Draketooths meaning any known attempt to help. Dorukan did not ask for help and no one checked regularly enough to notice he might need any.Forum Wisdom
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2022-11-12, 01:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-12, 01:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
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2022-11-12, 01:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
Still not into that theory, I guess it's stopped being a theory with this page, because that one line of dialogue doesn't make much of a character. But that's just my opinion. Good comic.
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2022-11-12, 02:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
No contact between Girard and anyone not called Serini; no contact between Serini and Dorukan (she was actively trying to avoid him while scrounging through his place) or Lirian (her entourage was more directly loyal to her, personally, so I don't think Serini raided the Glade for monsters) – it was ultimately just Dorukan and Lirian (for obvious reasons) plus Serini and Girard (for whatever reason; possibly one-sided), so far as social contact goes.
Girard probably withheld his coordinates from the others because… well, he’s Girard, the Paranoid Jackass. He seems even worse than Ian, actually.
Eh, it was never going to be anything huge. The Giant was all but telegraphing that he's mostly just trolling the curious lot of us.Last edited by Metastachydium; 2022-11-12 at 02:43 PM.
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2022-11-12, 03:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread
The exact wording is
Originally Posted by The Giant
I didn't even think of that as a reference, possibly because baseball players have a higher percentage of left-handers among them than the general population does. Is Rich left-handed? That's the first thing that came to mind for me. Also, as a left-hander, I appreciate the representation.
I didn't even know it was a meme. I just thought it was funny because I know what a bat flip is and nobody ever thinks about the consequences of flipping a sentient bat.