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2022-11-19, 04:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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What could be a small boon for a ranged Bladesinger so lvl14 isn't completely "dead"?
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For a Bladesinger that uses a Pistol or a Hand-Crossbow instead of a melee weapon - what could be a small thing one could grant the character at lvl 14 so that they have a little something besides "Song of Victory" (which doesn't provide any benefit for them). Or should one just leave it as it is (it's still a powerful subclass without anything new at that level)?
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2022-11-19, 04:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What could be a small boon for a ranged Bladesinger so lvl14 isn't completely "de
It gives a boost to melee weapon attacks which is a completely different thing from attacks with a melee weapon.
You could probably benefit from it while using your pistol to bludgeon people when cornered.
Maybe shooting your pistol in melee might even count as a melee weapon attack.Last edited by noob; 2022-11-19 at 04:23 PM.
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2022-11-19, 04:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What could be a small boon for a ranged Bladesinger so lvl14 isn't completely "de
You could offer +INT damage to one weapon attack per turn without breaking anything. If you want a stronger option, you could allow melee cantrip attacks to be made at range, so long as it's in the smaller attack range (e.g. 30 ft for a hand crossbow).
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2022-11-19, 05:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-19, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What could be a small boon for a ranged Bladesinger so lvl14 isn't completely "de
Nothing needed, its a caster with a whole bunch of of extra perks already. That you have chosen to play it a slightly different way doesn't warrant you getting anything for that choice.
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2022-11-19, 09:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What could be a small boon for a ranged Bladesinger so lvl14 isn't completely "de
Give the bonus to all attack rolls similar to Spirit Shroud. That's what I'm doing.
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2022-11-19, 11:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What could be a small boon for a ranged Bladesinger so lvl14 isn't completely "de
Song of Victory can still be good if they need to use a back up weapon for whatever reason, being stuck in melee, whip out weapon cantrips with a dagger, or a shadowblade.
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2022-11-20, 04:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What could be a small boon for a ranged Bladesinger so lvl14 isn't completely "de
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2022-11-21, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What could be a small boon for a ranged Bladesinger so lvl14 isn't completely "de
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2022-11-21, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What could be a small boon for a ranged Bladesinger so lvl14 isn't completely "de
To be a bit more specific:
Bladesinger is a strong (relative to other wizard subclasses) subclass of a strong class. And then you're using it in a way (ranged combat) that lessens one of its few downsides (being dependent on bladesong + shield to not get squished in melee) and is often considered stronger than melee even for non casters. Yeah, OP, I think you're fine without any changes.Dawn of Hope: a 5e setting. http://wiki.admiralbenbo.org
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2022-11-21, 02:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What could be a small boon for a ranged Bladesinger so lvl14 isn't completely "de
I'm gonna echo what other's have said and say that simply adding it to all attacks (not just melee) is a little bit too much as it basically circumvents the weaknesses of the subclasses in an all-to easy manner.
I think if you want the ability to not be useless while also using a single handed ranged weapon I might recommend only allowing the bonus to apply with attacks within 5ft, this allows the bonus to be used with close ranged crossbow attacks (assuming the crossbow-master feat is taken) while also not circumventing the weaknesses of the class as a whole.Homebrew setting: UnintensifiedFailure's Setting Please check it out, I'd love feedback.
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