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2022-11-25, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Telekinetic feat: can you telekinetically shove yourself?
RAW you can and I have. It doesn't seem to break anything since you already get so few feats in 5e, exclusive with stat increases unless you get bonus feats, and you're spending a whole one on this plus the componentless (and maybe extended range) invisible mage hand, so I think there's no reason to ban it, either, even if maybe other telekinetic effects specify you shouldn't use them on yourself. 3.5e has a telekinesis discipline Psionic Fly and Psionic Overland Flight, but 3.5e gives you way more psionic powers than 5e gives you feats, so it makes sense to allow you to shove yourself, especially since there isn't anything else filling in that gap.
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2022-11-25, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-11-26, 12:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Telekinetic feat: can you telekinetically shove yourself?
Ummm, sweat pecan pie motivated reasoning…delicious🃏
So we are ignoring that you are pushing one’s self towards or away from one’s bodily self…which as has been point out..can get sorta of messy….
…….We are also ignoring the fact that the Shove rules contain an error, (not explicitly stating one can not shove one’s self), which is replicated in the similar verbiage of the Telekinetic Feat…….
….furthermore, now, we are using the 3e as a justification for assuming a wildly expansive ruling for 5e….because, evidently the two systems are so similar.
Folks, why isn’t it just alright to say: “yeah, this self push/pull is not intended, but I think it is cool..so I run my game this way”.
Rule of Cool, is a great justification, and also makes it clear that this is a singular sort of ruling for a particular gaming group. Not, (as is being argued by some) an universally applicable, iron clad rule.
Phoenix Phyre gave a great example of a DM applying Rule of Cool, in this very thread.Last edited by Thunderous Mojo; 2022-11-26 at 12:13 AM.