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Thread: Spite in gaming
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2022-12-02, 07:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spite in gaming
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2022-12-02, 11:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spite in gaming
Oh wow. I am so totally stealing this.
By which I mean... say a morally dubious situation comes up in game. A situation where the players might be acting out because it's an NPC they met 5 minutes ago and it's all fantasy and make-believe anyway, you can force them to re-evaluate the interaction by recruiting another player or a friend outside your group. That is not to say, you should be deploying this trick often - it is a game, and much of the point is to be able to act in ways we couldn't irl and not invite extra emotional consternation in everyone's life. But in case you need to add extra gravitas to a scene or the players have misinterpreted the mood you're trying to convey, this could be a rather effective tool in your DM box.
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2022-12-03, 07:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spite in gaming
Note: this does not include sneering at the players for being different from me. I'm not saying their way to play is bad -- just that I can't be the DM for it.
This avoids any irrelevant discussion of their playstyle. In response to any defense of what they want to do, I would say, "That's your business, not mine. And I hope you find a DM who can run the game the way you want. I just can't."
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2023-03-21, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spite in gaming
Lately, games have been annoying me a lot. So I was playing Call of Duty once and my monitor got really buggy a few times. I was so nervous that I smashed it against the radiator and threw it out the window. Then I had a mental breakdown and had to find a therapist, now I'm on pills.
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2023-03-21, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spite in gaming
I have seen conflicts where people took sides be resolved peacefully and via compromise, but only when it could be done in less than a week Everything else led to a split of the group.
The worst case was when a couple had a divorce and tried to drag the group into it.
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2023-03-21, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spite in gaming
Here's the deal. Players -should- have the option of capturing, rather than killing, all the enemies. And they should be rewarded by being able to get information out of the captured enemies. However, the key here is to let the captured enemies give up the information WITHOUT having to be tortured to get it.
Too many DMs default to all captured prisoners being tough-guys who will never give up what they know! And all that trains the players to do is resort to torture or some other coercive technique. That, or it teaches the players to never take prisoners in the first place. There's no point, if all it leads to is headaches and no useful benefit.
So if you have players who are torturing people, then stop having captured enemies hold out until they end up getting tortured. If they are nice enough to capture a bad guy instead of killing them, then the bad guy can simply tell them what they know in exchange for being let go.
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2023-03-21, 06:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spite in gaming
Yeah. That's a somewhat simple way of dealing with this. Introduce the concept of "ransom" as a means to recover catpured people (both PCs and NPCs). This encourages both sides to not kill/torture prisoners, and encourages folks to surrender rather than fight to the death. And yeah, the payment can come in the form of information instead of cash.
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2023-03-24, 10:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spite in gaming
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