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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    "Call me Ishmael..."
    Look here, Ishmael, such direct instructions are all well and fine but they're also a little blunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    "Call me Ishmael..."
    I read that story. It was about a sea captain who needed to be killed. Especially after clunking about the foc'sle every night keeping us awake.

    The dwarf/gnome racial bonuses always seemed to me to be about training to combat traditional enemies as opposed to hate giving them additional power. So, as with the ranger, knowing the creature that you are fighting gives you an advantage.

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    I read that story. It was about a sea captain who needed to be killed. Especially after clunking about the foc'sle every night keeping us awake.
    Are you sure? I thought it was a cetology textbook.
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    I thought it was mostly an elaborate excuse to pioneer the 'There Is Only One Bed' trope
    No I have no idea whether it's actually the oldest example, I'd be very surprised if it was
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Maybe. My read on it was that Lien is referencing how Paladins stereotypically act again as measured by an imaginary scale in order to jokingly point out that they still do need to eat and take care of themselves even if they act like they don't.
    That's how I took it. I don't recall a mechanic in 5e called "Grim Resolve" or anything similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Are you sure? I thought it was a cetology textbook.
    The comic was better. It didn't have all the parts that were not part of the story in it, which turns out to be most of the book.

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    I thought it was mostly an elaborate excuse to pioneer the 'There Is Only One Bed' trope
    No I have no idea whether it's actually the oldest example, I'd be very surprised if it was
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian 333 View Post
    What happens in Nantucket stays in Nantucket.
    I'm petty sure what happens in Nantucket gets immortalized in a dirty limerick.
    The thing is the Azurites don't use a single color; they use a single hue. The use light blue, dark blue, black, white, glossy blue, off-white with a bluish tint. They sky's the limit, as long as it's blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quizatzhaderac View Post
    Like, sometimes a crocodile, or bear, or something needs to be killed, but it would seem really weird to me if a professional hunter was personally angry at the animal.
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    "Call me Ishmael..."
    So, yes, it was weird. Didn't really work out for ol' Ahab either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quizatzhaderac View Post
    I'm petty sure what happens in Nantucket gets immortalized in a dirty limerick.
    Okay, this is the best post on the internet. +1 thumb up for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzardok View Post
    Also, according to the Player's Handbook, Favoured Enemy represents extensive study of and fighting techniques specialized against the chosen creatures, not raw hatred.
    Well, that's what I get for using the SRD. (This, in turn, makes me wonder more what they were thinking when making the Girdle of Hate and stuff.)

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    Well, that's what I get for using the SRD. (This, in turn, makes me wonder more what they were thinking when making the Girdle of Hate and stuff.)
    Turns out, "Hate" is the name of the wizard.
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    Also, it's likely that if you really hate something you'd study ways to kill it. And it's not like hatred isn't a valid source for boosts to skill or competence in D&D, after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Turns out, "Hate" is the name of the wizard.
    …pronounced /γʌ'te/, I presume?

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    …pronounced /γʌ'te/, I presume?
    No. Their parents weren't kind.
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    That reminds me of that one family in the Discworld novels. After having a bunch of girls and naming them Chastity, Charity, Patience and stuff like that, they had a bunch of boys. And so they thought "If girls are named after virtues, boys must be named after vices," and named them Wrath, Sloth, Envy and stuff like that.

    Hate was propably a nice man, one of those who just can't keep a grudge.
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    No. Their parents weren't kind.
    Well, one of their parents could have been Kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzardok View Post
    That reminds me of that one family in the Discworld novels. After having a bunch of girls and naming them Chastity, Charity, Patience and stuff like that, they had a bunch of boys. And so they thought "If girls are named after virtues, boys must be named after vices," and named them Wrath, Sloth, Envy and stuff like that.

    Hate was propably a nice man, one of those who just can't keep a grudge.
    I was thinking of Hayt, from Dune: Messiah, but this works too.
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    Well, one of their parents could have been Kind.
    I don't get it.
    Edit: okay the picture's link states this man's name is Richard Kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    I was thinking of Hayt, from Dune: Messiah, but this works too.

    I don't get it.
    Edit: okay the picture's link states this man's name is Richard Kind.
    Richard Kind is one of the greatest comedic actors of our day. He's delightful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    No. Their parents weren't kind.
    Heh. It shows.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tzardok View Post
    Hate was propably a nice man, one of those who just can't keep a grudge.
    Well, given that the Girdle transforms to look like it's made from the skin and hair of a creature the wearer has as a favoured/racial enemy regardless of sapience, I think Hate's upbringing might have left the feller a bit… Maladjusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metastachydium View Post
    Heh. It shows.



    Well, given that the Girdle transforms to look like it's made from the skin and hair of a creature the wearer has as a favoured/racial enemy regardless of sapience, I think Hate's upbringing might have left the feller a bit… Maladjusted.
    Yeah, that was my idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metastachydium View Post
    Heh. It shows.



    Well, given that the Girdle transforms to look like it's made from the skin and hair of a creature the wearer has as a favoured/racial enemy regardless of sapience, I think Hate's upbringing might have left the feller a bit… Maladjusted.
    No no no, he just wanted the wearer to properly understand what he hunts, y'know? That's just a "walk a mile in their shoes skin" thing, so you can get really in touch with your own inner animal/vermin/humanoid (orc)/etc.

    Such a helpful, harmony-loving guy. It brings a tear to my eye.
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    Richard Kind is one of the greatest comedic actors of our day. He's delightful.
    Always great to see him in stuff. Trying to remember what I last saw him in and remembered he guested on the new Beavis and Butt-Head... which I guess technically means I still didn't see him. (He's also a recurring character on American Dad!, another place you can not see him.)

    I think maybe it's that some of the stuff I've seen him in recently wasn't that recent itself, I guess other than last season's Curb appearance. (Geez, Luck was more than ten years ago now.) I only saw A Serious Man a few years ago.

    And thinking of that made me realize some of the other appearances I was thinking of were actually Fred Melamed: Reboot in particular, but I just remembered he was in the last season of Barry as well. I was also thinking of Maria Bamford recently because a friend wrote an article on the ten-year anniversary of The Special Special Special, and Melamed is second-billed on Lady Dynamite, too.

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    It brings a tear to my eye.
    Well, I'm sure a lot of folks felt the same way about his legacy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    Always great to see him in stuff. Trying to remember what I last saw him in and remembered he guested on the new Beavis and Butt-Head... which I guess technically means I still didn't see him.
    He has a very distinctive cadence.

    One of my favorite roles of his was in the Producers remake. Very small part but I still remember watching the movie in the theater with my friend and out of nowhere he just stands up as the jury foreman, his very cameo practically being a joke itself, and then delivering the line, "we find the defendent.... incredibly guilty." Nobody else would have delivered it as perfectly.

    Also I just found out that he and Alan Ruck played Bialystock and Bloom on Broadway production, which I need to see. The remake is my favorite version, everything about it was sheer perfection, but I love a Richard Kind/Alan Ruck team up.
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    Is the expected reaction supposed to be feeling young or old here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metastachydium View Post
    …pronounced /γʌ'te/, I presume?
    As with the Discworld assassin Teatime, who pronounced his name "Teh-ah-tim-ay"?

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    And they can even improve upon it by way of donning the Girdle of HateDraMag314 (a magic item the crafting of which requires little more than that you really hate a type of creature)!
    *looks up item*

    *jawdrops*

    ...you know, I can't immediately recall another item with implications nearly as cringetastic as this one. (I'm relatively sure they exist, but I'm also relatively sure I've blocked them out of mind.)
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    I vaguely remember the Ranger's Favoured Enemy bonus was named Racial Hatred in Baldurs Gate.
    I am glad to say this memory is wholly inaccurate.

    Nor did having Racial Enemy: Dragons interfere with your ability or seemingly interfere with your desire to engage in diplomacy with Adalon, the only non-evil dragon you encountered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metastachydium View Post
    …pronounced /γʌ'te/, I presume?
    Reminds me of someone finding an Old English word "gif"... pronounced "yiff".

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    Reminds me of someone finding an Old English word "gif"... pronounced "yiff".
    Out of the frying pan, into the fire. XD
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