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2022-11-29, 01:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Aedilred's Athanasiac Random Banter #241
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...Ypu think things like type-II diabetes and high cholesterol are common among hobbits? Their eating habits are quite gluttonous and in the novel are described as being somewhat heavyset in the middle with attention drawn to how much weight Bilbo has lost over the journey.
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It probably depends on where exactly in the Shire they live. Those who live closer to the edges are going to be a LOT more active than those living in places like Hobbiton, so while still almost certainly obese they'll have a significantly lower risk of related consequences.
A big issue I have with the Peter Jackson films is that the four main hobbits don't look right.
Frodo should begin as the plumpest, seeing as his exercise is predominantly walking.
Sam tends a good sized garden for a living, and so should have well developed muscles. But he also probably has the worst diet, and so should definitely have a beer gut.
Pippin is quite young, and should likely look like someone who's just started putting on weight after their teenage years. Especially because he's from Buckland, where hobbits are notably more adventurous.
As for Merry, from what I remember he's not just from Buckland, he's left the Shire for short stints. He should look noticeably stocky, and while he is carrying fat it's likely close to the edge of healthy. On the flip side he's carrying more weight as muscle, most likely being a bit slimmer than Sam but compensating with broader shoulders.
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Hobbits are basically early 20th-century British countryside townsfolk, though idealised to fit the nostalgia of a comfortably wealthy author.
Some of them (Frodo, Merry) are landed aristocracy and might be a bit round, but I don't think fat. More like Hugh Bonneville in Downton Abbey-shaped.
I agree that Sam as a countryside labourer might have a beer gut.
I'm not sure how common high cholesterol and type-II diabetes would be in early 20th century Britain, but I imagine it would be relatively rare.
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Oh absolutely not. They do so much actual warm work that it seems unlikely to hit even with the concept of Second Breakfast, and physiology wise they're built for this sorta stuff; they are supposed to be stockier folk. If anything, Frodo losing all that weight is going to be the problem there.
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“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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They probably have a genetic resistance to this kind of illnesses. Since they are a different subspecies, it's likely that they have a different metabolism* and that their cultural eating habits are roughly suited to the average need of a healthy Hobbit.
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“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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Are they though?
As I noted, The Hobbit drew attention to all the weight Bilbo lost on the way to the Mountain and notes that he's gotten nowhere near his accustomed quantity of meals nor of food per meal at least once, and yet he doesn't seem t be any worse of from the starvation than the dwarves. If anything, he's handling it better given that he pulls off some traditional fantasy hero moments in the Mirkwood against the giant spiders, where much fuss is made narratively about the party having no food at all after losing their supplies.
As for how type-II diabetes and high cholesterol work? A mixture of genetics and bad eating habits.
With diabetes the thing that gets you, if you're genetically susceptible, is frequent overconsumption of sugars and carbs—refined sugar wouldn't have been as common in the time period that Tolkien is alluding to with the people of the Shire as it is today, but it did exist and, strictly speaking, any carbohydrate is eventually stored int he body as sugar if it's not immediately consumed for calories or used to build a bodily structure. We know that bread and cakes and beer and wine are part of the typical hobbit diet, that's plenty of carbs and sugars right there.
Cholesterol problems come from eating to much fatty food on a regular basis. Stereotypically it's things like eggs, red meat, pork, and anything that's been fried in oil.I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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Re: Aedilred's Athanasiac Random Banter #241
That one's fine, hobbits love their mushrooms and probably have a diet low in meat and fried food by modern standards. I'm imagining a lot of roasted vegetables with a helping of carbs for most meals, with meat and cheese being reserved for breakfasts and dinner.
There's also the distinct possibility that, even accounting for different calorie requirements, individual hobbit meals may be smaller than the ones we're used to. I'm trying to remember how Frodo and company have the mushrooms they got from Farmer Maggot, I believe neither the meal at Maggot's or the one at Crick Hollow were particularly heavy. They eat a lot, but it might not be anywhere near as much asseven meals a day would seem.
Get up, have some fruits, do some work on the farm, break for bread and meat with the family, get back to the morning's work, have a bite with your drink at the end of the morning, as the day heats up pause work for a helping of vegetable stew, break for some light cakes or a sandwich* mid afternoon, come home to your meat and two vedge, then finish up the leftovers before bed. That sounds like a more than reasonable hobbit routine (although every other day substitute one of the meals for pie, and the more urban hobbits are probably partial to egg and chips).
* English sandwich, so like a slice of ham or a little bit of cheese and some pickle between two slices of buttered bread. Hobbits have definitely invented Branston pickle.Last edited by Anonymouswizard; 2022-11-29 at 12:23 PM.
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That feel when you realized that South Park did a better job explaining about addiction than the DARE program did.
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Tolkein was writing a fantasy, the whole point of all the eating was that it wasn't possible outside of fantasy without bad side effects, but in the fantasy those side effects didn't happen because it was a fantasy.
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Yeah, turns out that telling kids that literally everyone is doing drugs and will try and make them do drugs and lying about the effects of drugs makes kids want to do drugs.
I remember there was n article on Cracked written by a former drug dealer who included an anecdote of having to explain the effects and risks of various drugs to his clients because their education about drugs was terrible.
But my point was... My school did DARE. They never explained what addiction actually was or why people would keep doing drugs when the side effects got worse. Also, the cop who did the lessons said he was gonna bring in donuts and he never did.
In comes South Park to sit down and explain the science of addiction in general, easy-to-understand terms. Granted, it was explained by Satan, but still.I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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I have a very interesting question to ask everyone: What does everyone think of bitcoins or cryptocurrency? I'm not a fan of bitcoins or cryptocurrency because I have a very difficult time understanding virtual money plus I prefer old-fashioned money.
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In practice, they have ended up being essentially an environmentally damaging scam. I do however think there is something worthwhile underneath it all: the challenge is how to actually execute the idea of a secure stateless currency without its being exploited by the world's worst people.
As to understanding crypto, I think it is easy to get bogged down in the detail of how the coins are created and the operation of the blockchain, which aren't irrelevant but are essentially secondary. All cryptocurrency really is is a currency like any other: it's worth what the market says it is and you can use it to pay for goods and services at the discretion of the vendor. No coins or notes are minted, but especially post-covid, many economies are largely cashless anyway, so this doesn't necessarily make a lot of practical difference.
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