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2022-11-29, 11:30 PM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Half-fiend spell resistance: RHD only or HD inclusive of class levels?
I've seen it claimed here that "spell resistance equal to creature’s HD + 10" only applies to RHD. What is the consensus?Spell resistance equal to creature’s HD + 10 (maximum 35).
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2022-11-30, 12:11 AM (ISO 8601)Titan in the Playground
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Re: Half-fiend spell resistance: RHD only or HD inclusive of class levels?
Its possible to read it in either way, just depends on whether you think the ability snapshots or not.
That being said, if you think the template snapshots, then you should apply that logic consistently, and also snapshot the spell-like abilities that they get.World of Madius wiki - My personal campaign setting, including my homebrew Optional Gestalt/LA rules.
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2022-11-30, 03:09 AM (ISO 8601)Ettin in the Playground
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Re: Half-fiend spell resistance: RHD only or HD inclusive of class levels?
By RAW you don't increase Spell Resistance when advancing a monster by HD, but the MM2 had a note hidden away which suggests otherwise. The general idea was that SR was meant to keep pace with a creature's CR (11+CR) because SR "should" have a default 50/50 chance of lolnoping a spell, absent the player investing in things like Spell Penetration (or SR flat out not applying). So at this point it becomes a DM job to judge what he thinks SR should be doing at the levels the game is running at.
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2022-11-30, 03:20 AM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Re: Half-fiend spell resistance: RHD only or HD inclusive of class levels?
Pretty sure specific trumps general in this case. Most monsters with SR just have a fixed number listed, but half-fiend (and many other templates) explicitly say that their SR is based on HD. Originally Posted by Saintheart
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2022-12-01, 11:31 PM (ISO 8601)Bugbear in the Playground
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Re: Half-fiend spell resistance: RHD only or HD inclusive of class levels?
Thanks for the replies. This all makes sense.
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2022-12-02, 07:18 AM (ISO 8601)Ogre in the Playground
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Re: Half-fiend spell resistance: RHD only or HD inclusive of class levels?
Given that the book just says HD without specifying racial HD, I'd say class levels count towards the SR in this case. Compare the Half-Dragon's breath weapon DC formula, which does specify racial HD, meaning that if the half-fiend's SR was only supposed to be based on racial HD the book would have indicated as such.
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2022-12-02, 11:32 AM (ISO 8601)Ettin in the Playground
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Re: Half-fiend spell resistance: RHD only or HD inclusive of class levels?
AFAIK, if creature have 2 or more racial HD - then it's for racial HD only Originally Posted by redking
But it it have less than 2 HD - their racial HD would be replaced by class HD, and thus - SR would be calculated from class HD
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