Deal with the Devil

[Let'sGetKraken]

So Meta and Persolus are both currently at 4, yes?

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No, wait, Meta and Caedorus are at 4 each. Persolus is only at 3.

[flat_footed]

So Meta and Persolus are both currently at 4, yes?

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No, wait, Meta and Caedorus are at 4 each. Persolus is only at 3.

AV ninja'd me, so it's only fair I ninja'd you.

[Batcathat]

So Meta and Persolus are both currently at 4, yes?

I have them at three each (AV, Snow and blade on Meta, you, me and Caedorus on Persolus), though I might've missed some recent change.

[Lady Serpentine]

Well. I dropped the ball a bit on this one.

I'll try to be more active from here out. Maybe join in on the RP a bit too, it's been an age since I did that in these games.

In the meantime let me catch up on D1.

[3SecondCultist]

Well. I dropped the ball a bit on this one.

I'll try to be more active from here out. Maybe join in on the RP a bit too, it's been an age since I did that in these games.

In the meantime let me catch up on D1.

Good! Uh, already reading D1?

Hopefully you get a chance to read through everything and throw a post in before EoD.

[Rogan]

While I didn't manage to read the whole thread, times up now. Please don't post anymore till I've resolved the phase.

[Let'sGetKraken]

Well. I dropped the ball a bit on this one.

I'll try to be more active from here out. Maybe join in on the RP a bit too, it's been an age since I did that in these games.

In the meantime let me catch up on D1.

Quick, vote for Persolus and make it a three-way tie! :p

Edit: sorry Rogan, you ninja'd me

[Allando]

Caedorus went to bed Meta so he doesn't die without being able to claim.

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While I didn't manage to read the whole thread, times up now. Please don't post anymore till I've resolved the phase.

Oh whoops, feel free not to count my vote 😔

[Rogan]

End of day 1

Spoiler: Mech

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Spoiler: Votes

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AV: Metastachydium
Aleph: Allando
Allando: 3Sec
Batcathat: Persolus
Benoojian: Cazero
bladescape: Metastachydium
Book_Wombat: Benoojian
Caedorus: Persolus
Cazero: AV
Cultist: Caedrous
flat_footed: Caedorus
Grand Arbiter: Aleph Null
Illven: Caedorus
JeenLeen: Caedorus
Kraken: Persolus
Metastachydium: Batcathat
Persolus: Serpentine
Rakkoon: Allando
Snowblaze: Metastachydium
Xihirli: Batcathat

Taking into account all vote manipulation powers, this is the result:

Caedorus: 4


Metastachydium: 3

Allando: 2
3Sec: 1
Benoojian: 1
Persolus: 2
AV: 1
Aleph Null: 1
Batcathat: 2
Serpentine: 1

The dead flip will be delayed, sorry about this. (This is deliberate)

The first day resulted in chaos. The town was divided, and it was impossible to reach a clear decision. In the end, the narrator was highly confused and made a note not to end the day when they are on the road...

After the sentence was passed, a masked figure pushed through the ranks of the assembled citizens; the executioner had appeared. They took the condemned man with them, and the crowd divided to let them pass, knowing that the poor soul will not survive the night.

Start of Night 1. It will take approximately 22 hours. You may write in here again.
(I'll try to get a better timing next time)
(Some results are still pending, I'll get to them ASAP)

[bladescape]

"Sorry folks, I must ask questions of the condemned before we kill him and check out the body. Please don't mind the delay, you'll see the blood his insides spill by dayrise. I do hope my impromptu departure won't ruin things, 'my lady'?" The cloaked man had suddenly stood up as the moments passed and the tension grew louder, winking at the sitting companion before he broke into the throng to extract the soon-to-be-dead. He waved in apology at the baying for blood, but soon vanished with his prey into the darkness.

[flat_footed]

Some of the mechanics used in this game will be highly unusual and mess with the expectations of players.

No immediate death reveal, check. That one did surprise me.

[Persolus]

...my life certainly picked a good time to become busy; that was *waaaay* too close to being lynched for comfort. Sorry I didn't get the chance to switch my vote off you Ti!

Also, someone chopped a vote off of me?

[Benoojian]

Can someone with a vote spreadsheet summarize how the votes were changed by voting powers? because the counts look slightly off somehow.

[AvatarVecna]

Can someone with a vote spreadsheet summarize how the votes were changed by voting powers? because the counts look slightly off somehow.

Cultist: Caedrous
flat_footed: Caedorus
Illven: Caedorus
JeenLeen: Caedorus

AV: Metastachydium
bladescape: Metastachydium
Snowblaze: Metastachydium

Aleph: Allando
Rakkoon: Allando

Allando: 3Sec

Book_Wombat: Benoojian

Batcathat: Persolus
Caedorus: Persolus
Kraken: Persolus

Cazero: AV

Grand Arbiter: Aleph Null

Metastachydium: Batcathat
Xihirli: Batcathat

Persolus: Serpentine

Benoojian: Cazero

[...]

Caedorus: 4

Metastachydium: 3

Allando: 2
3Sec: 1
Benoojian: 1
Persolus: 2
AV: 1
Aleph Null: 1
Batcathat: 2
Serpentine: 1

[Persolus]

Also, someone chopped a vote off of me?

As well as Cazero?

[Benoojian]

So we likely don't have any vote switching powers, but rather vote canceling powers
I'm making the assumption that no two players have identical powers, which seems likely but is not guaranteed

1. Vote canceller role/boon, targeted (could be anyone)
2. role/boon that cancels a single vote against you (Persolus, Cazero) : Persolus didn't seem very concerned about being tied
3.role/boon that prevents you from casting a vote (Batcathat, Caedorus, Kraken, or me) : This feels like it'd be some kind of weird Neutral.

[Let'sGetKraken]

Interesting. So the options are:

1) Persolus has a passive power (or activated during the day) where he counts as having one less vote.
2) Someone else has a day power to remove someone else's vote.
3) One of the three of us who voted for Persolus has some form of vote manipulation.

And then the same applies to Benooj and Cazero.

Very interesting.

[Benoojian]

Interesting. So the options are:

1) Persolus has a passive power (or activated during the day) where he counts as having one less vote.
2) Someone else has a day power to remove someone else's vote.
3) One of the three of us who voted for Persolus has some form of vote manipulation.

And then the same applies to Benooj and Cazero.

Very interesting.

Oh didn't even consider that the power could be to choose every day whether your public vote is real or fake. That sounds more like an Evil power than a Neutral one.

[3SecondCultist]

Oh didn't even consider that the power could be to choose every day whether your public vote is real or fake. That sounds more like an Evil power than a Neutral one.

I had that power in the Pathways game as Black Emperor: got to vote publicly for someone and then vote privately to the Narrator. It is a very sneaky power.

[Let'sGetKraken]

I had that power in the Pathways game as Black Emperor: got to vote publicly for someone and then vote privately to the Narrator. It is a very sneaky power.

Good times. Don't think we have that here - no one got more votes than they should have. I'm guessing that it's either someone messing with one of the voters or that those two have defensive voting powers. Can someone check to see if anyone typed the names of anyone who voted for Persolus or Cazero in a weird way? Like, in a colour or bolded or italicized.

[Illven]

So bladescape can delay posting a death flip?

Do they have any control to muddle a death flip? If so, how much can we trust flips?

[JeenLeen]

So bladescape can delay posting a death flip?

Do they have any control to muddle a death flip? If so, how much can we trust flips?

Some of the mechanics used in this game will be highly unusual and mess with the expectations of players. There will be limited information about this until the end of the game. However, as the narrator, I will not lie to you. If you receive an answer (including the results of power usages), it will be the truth. IÂ’ll also try to avoid giving deliberately misleading answers, however you should expect answers given during the game to be limited.

Info from the narrator might need to be read carefully to avoid misinterpretation, but he won't lie. So if someone flips and it's clearly stating that that player name is that role and alignment, I think we can trust it. However, as he plans to "try to avoid giving deliberately misleading answers", I'd think death flips will be safe OR be muddled to such a degree we can be sure something is missing. I don't think we'll get something fuzzy where it's simply misleading.

I wrote up some comments about the death flip being delayed, but I think they'd be best saved until D2 starts.

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In some cult games, someone who was converted from town to cult dies with a flip like "Name, died Cult but started Town". I wonder if we'll be able to tell the difference between original Corrupted vs. former Tempted.
Also, if a Tempted becomes Corrupted in the same Phase they die, would they flip as Tempted or Corrupted?
@Rogan: willing to shed any light there?

[Illven]

Info from the narrator might need to be read carefully to avoid misinterpretation, but he won't lie. So if someone flips and it's clearly stating that that player name is that role and alignment, I think we can trust it. However, as he plans to "try to avoid giving deliberately misleading answers", I'd think death flips will be safe OR be muddled to such a degree we can be sure something is missing. I don't think we'll get something fuzzy where it's simply misleading.

I wrote up some comments about the death flip being delayed, but I think they'd be best saved until D2 starts.

So info might be missing but unless Bladescape is the one who posts it, it should be correct.

[bladescape]

So info might be missing but unless Bladescape is the one who posts it, it should be correct.

Rogan will be the one posting death flips so no need to worry there. =P

[Illven]

Rogan will be the one posting death flips so no need to worry there. =P

Allegedly

[bladescape]

Allegedly

It'll be proven in 24 hours minus however many it's been. =P

[Illven]

It'll be proven in 24 hours minus however many it's been. =P

HA Joke's on you. Rogan said 22 hours from start of night!

[Benoojian]

Rogan will be the one posting death flips so no need to worry there. =P

Do you feel like sharing more about your role as executioner?

[Xihirli]

It'll be proven in 24 hours minus however many it's been. =P

Or maybe not.

[bladescape]

Do you feel like sharing more about your role as executioner?

Hmmmmm.

Not right now. :)