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Thread: Help me defeat Modrons
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2023-01-21, 07:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Help me defeat Modrons
I play a flying, chaotic, fey shadow sorcerer and have ended up on a huge casino cruise ship in the astral sea. The security is heavy with modrons and githyanki, which frustrates me to no end since they destroy all fun, so now I've decided to wreck maximum havoc with no regard to my own life. I need your help with ideas.
Most prominently I am in possession of a flask of Sovereign Glue, and probably a way to summon Redcaps by the dozen. Beyond that, I can probably get most materials needed for your crazy ideas. Defeating all modrons and githyanki, and destroying the ship are all acceptable outcomes, but getting everything under my control would be even better. Hit me!
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2023-01-21, 07:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
This is a casino, and Modrons can't do any trickery or not follow the rules.Furthermore all Modrons are part of the same machine, but the weaker ones are not particularly intelligent, wise or charismatic.
You just need to fool one into getting at the poker table and the Modrom side of this house of cards will be fallling down.
'course that would require your character to be patient and gradually grind at your opponent.
For Githyanki, I mean that's a whole different book. Are you sure they're not Githzerai? Becsuse whoever managed to make Githyanki work around Modrons is a bigger problem for you than the security.
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2023-01-21, 07:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
All of them that I've seen so far are Quadrones, unfortunately.
That might be a problem too. Character is not the patient type, and is now quite agitated.
Yes, Githyanki. Maybe that's an opening then; stirring them up against the Modron machine. Any reference to why they normally wouldn't work around Modrons?
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2023-01-24, 06:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
1) cast flaming sphere
2) set the whole ship on fire
3) ???
4) profit!May I borrow some bat guano? It's for a spell...
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2023-01-24, 06:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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2023-01-24, 07:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
Convince the githyanki to help you overthrow the modrons and loot the place. They're space pirates after all.
Black text is for sarcasm, also sincerity. You'll just have to read between the lines and infer from context like an animal
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2023-01-24, 07:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
Swap all the signs around, ideally creating an infinite loop (put a "now wash your hands" sign on the door leading out of the rest room to prevent anybody following instructions from ever leaving).
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2023-01-24, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
If you can find a way to get around modron omnipresent truesight (good luck with that), a fake pentadrone should be able to order quadrones around. You'd probably need to find out if there isn't a real one giving orders already, though.
It is weird relatively high ranking modrons are there at all, especially in a menial role. They don't communicate with non-modron, and only know modron language even if they did.It's Eberron, not ebberon.
It's not high magic, it's wide magic.
And it's definitely not steampunk. The only time steam gets involved is when the fire and water elementals break loose.
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2023-01-24, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
One question I would ask that I've not seen asked.
Are you alone on this ship?
Where is the rest of the party?
Or is it a solo game and a DM with you and the DM?
If there's other party members, make sure you're not ruining their fun.
Also try to figure out why you're on said ship.
If the DM put you there, they probably did it for a reason.Need a character origin written? Enjoyed what I wrote? How can you help me? Not required, but appreciated! <3
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2023-01-24, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
That would be great. Perhaps an illusion of the Modrons planning to do away with them could be motivating.
Excellent idea! I'll have to think about more ways to use the Modron mind against them.
These particular Quadrones certainly know Common, and are quite happy to question me on any little prank in the works. I wonder if there's a way to corrupt a pentadrone to do my bidding; that would be a big win.
I got separated from the party before, and again after, arriving, but they are on the ship. They have some sort of destructive mission that I know little about, perhaps involving the person who managed to make Githyanki and Modrons play nice. The mission-giver indicated that me going ballistic might help this mission, and so is willing to help with materials.
Oh, and level 7.
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2023-01-24, 05:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
Last edited by FabulousFizban; 2023-01-24 at 05:11 PM.
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2023-01-24, 07:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
Great point, conventional warfare shouldn't be underestimated. I could probably get any mundane equipment I want for this one. Also, I have that Sovereign Glue... what can I do with that?
I'll try to find ways to insert paradoxes a la Gödel and Russell into those guys brainzz... any other ideas?
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2023-01-24, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
Petty chaos. It's a casino right? Glue all the chips together. Get cards stuck to the dealer's hands. Put glue on the toliet seats. Make all the taps stuck in the on position. Glue all the doors shut (glue the emergency exits shut before setting everything on fire).Really think about what a middle school deliquent might do.
Last edited by FabulousFizban; 2023-01-24 at 08:07 PM.
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2023-01-25, 08:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
With the Sovereign Glue create an inescapable situation for the Modron. All employees must check in with the manager on the other side of this door before starting their shift, use the glue to make sure that the door will never open (sure they can break down the door, but hopefully you get the point).
Also, if you can break into the controlling room where orders are given you can start to give chaotic orders. They must follow who they think is in charge, but if you are the one in charge then they must follow what you say.
For the Gith, maybe illusions and/or disguises of Mind Flayers coming into the casino to gamble? Bonus points if you can make it seem like the Modrons are the ones who are faking the Mind Flayers just to mess with them. Better yet, try and find a way to convinces one of more of the Modrons to wear a Mind Flayer Costume as a dealer or in a show.Pronouns he/him/his
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2023-01-25, 08:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
Sneak in and secretly move things around until they lose it.
I am the flush of excitement. The blush on the cheek. I am the Rouge!
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2023-01-25, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2023-01-25, 12:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
Pronouns he/him/his
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● XIII-Rogue, Tavern Wench
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● XVI-Cleric, Madness Domain
● XVIII-Fighter, Chef
● XXI-Artificer, Battling Bowman
● XXV-Ley Line Sorcerer
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2023-01-25, 04:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
There are many ideas that depend on being able to order/fool the Quadrones:
To do any of this, I assume I'd have to impersonate a pentadrone, or perhaps find and corrupt one. Anyone have ideas for that?
For impersonation I'm thinking perhaps a mundane costume making me look like a pentadrone, and a spell effect to let me speak their language. After all, it seems like truesight isn't immune to mundane trickery.
What do you mean exactly, "getting at the poker table"?
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2023-01-25, 05:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
Figure out how their chain of command work. Modrons shouldn't obey anyone but higher-ranking modrons, so any attempts to confuse them with signs is probably a no-go.
For impersonation I'm thinking perhaps a mundane costume making me look like a pentadrone, and a spell effect to let me speak their language. After all, it seems like truesight isn't immune to mundane trickery.It's Eberron, not ebberon.
It's not high magic, it's wide magic.
And it's definitely not steampunk. The only time steam gets involved is when the fire and water elementals break loose.
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2023-01-25, 07:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Help me defeat Modrons
So I think - as others stated - the easiest way to defeat a Modron is by using your environment. Primarily, you're on a casino bardge.
Modrons are all about order and structure and law.
So you convince them how gambling of any sort - is the opposite.
Gambling relies on skill, yes - but it also relies on luck.
Luck of the cards, or the luck of the spinning wheels, or slot machines.
By definition, gambling is the very symbol of chaos.
So you could convince to Modrons that EVERYONE needs to be dealt the same cards to that everything is even.
You could convince them to allow people to replay slot machines, for free, until they win so everyone wins equally.
So on and so on.
Use the fact that any form of gambling is the very sign of chaos.
And that the Githyanki must have altered their programming to accept this.Need a character origin written? Enjoyed what I wrote? How can you help me? Not required, but appreciated! <3
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2023-01-26, 03:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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