Manyshot + Two Weapon Fighting

[SpicyBoi_Nezu]

My DM is doing a campaign that takes place in a more modern setting (A reverse Isekai if anyone knows what that means) essentially, us modern day people suddenly gain a level in a D&D class, and monsters start appearing [Based on the "Lone Necromancer" korean webcomic]. I thought it'd be cool to dual wield pistols.

How does the manyshot feat work in conjunction with the rapid shot and the two weapon fighting feats? I have seen forums about twf and hand crossbows, but none of them mentioned the Manyshot feat.

At level 6, full fighter, with Improved two weapon fighting, Rapid shot, and Greater Manyshot.

How many attacks, and what's the breakdown.

[Crake]

Manyshot specifically only works with bows where you can knock more than one arrow at a time.

Using manyshot is also specifically called out as being a standard action, so you cant do other attacks in the same round like you would in a full attack.

Short answer: it doesnt work.
Long answer: it doesnt work because you cant manyshot with pistols, and manyshot uses an action that makes it incompatible with two weapon fighting.

[Lilapop]

Even on a bow, even with that bow being the only weapon, manyshot is already incompatible with rapid shot.

However, you could drop manyshot from the mix and replace it with the quick loading WSA (bit pricy for the level, but it is a fighter's primary). That would give you an attack progression of crossbow/crossbowRapid/crossbowIterative//dagger/daggerIterative +2/+2/-3 // +2/-3, including only base attack bonus, iteratives, rapid shot, and TWF penalties. The rapid reload feat is insufficient here, because it still requires a free hand.

[Robster]

Even on a bow, even with that bow being the only weapon, manyshot is already incompatible with rapid shot.

I'm suspecting OP either plays pathfinder or has houseruled in the pathfinder version of manyshot and just forgot to tag the thread appropriately. In pf, manyshot simply adds another arrow on your first attack when full-attacking. (I'd link it, but postcount says no).


That said, your idea still doesn't work though, as even in pf, manyshot is bow-exclusive, and I struggle to imagine a believable variation of the "multiple arrows from a single bowstring"-trope for firearms. Maybe you could design some kind of double-barreled pistol, where one barrel can only fire once a round? That would go pretty far into homebrew-territory though, and I am too unfamiliar with firearms in pf to tell you anything about it.

[loky1109]

Maybe you could design some kind of double-barreled pistol, where one barrel can only fire once a round? That would go pretty far into homebrew-territory though, and I am too unfamiliar with firearms in pf to tell you anything about it.

You're talking about metal storm: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/eJJg2w

[Crake]

I'm suspecting OP either plays pathfinder or has houseruled in the pathfinder version of manyshot and just forgot to tag the thread appropriately. In pf, manyshot simply adds another arrow on your first attack when full-attacking. (I'd link it, but postcount says no).

Not gonna lie, if you're gonna play a game set in a modern setting, with magic sprinkled in, how could you pass up the opportunity to try out D20 Modern, and it's accompanying sourcebook Urban Arcana? Its literally designed for what you wanna be doing.

[Zanos]

That said, your idea still doesn't work though, as even in pf, manyshot is bow-exclusive, and I struggle to imagine a believable variation of the "multiple arrows from a single bowstring"-trope for firearms. Maybe you could design some kind of double-barreled pistol, where one barrel can only fire once a round? That would go pretty far into homebrew-territory though, and I am too unfamiliar with firearms in pf to tell you anything about it.

I mean, if his game is based in the modern world...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_Firearms_AF2011A1

[Crake]

I mean, if his game is based in the modern world...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_Firearms_AF2011A1

Right, but that kind of thing would be better reflected by the weapon itself, rather than through a feat. It's definitely more complicated to knock two arrows on a bow than it is to pull the trigger on a double barreled weapon.