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    So it has been 7 years for the Boruto Manga, and the first interesting thing happened, it only took 7 years.

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    A reminder the first 51 chapters of the series were written by Ukyō Kodachi, with the author of Naruto, Masashi Kishimoto, acting as story supervisor. Kodachi was working with Kishimoto for the Boruto Movie in 2015, but also has done other anime / manga stuff like some of the anime versions of the Fate Franchise.

    Beginning with chapter 52 - released in November 2020 - Kodachi left the series and Kishimoto took over writing duties. Mikio Ikemoto has been illustrating the manga throughout its run.

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    I'm glad we've decided manga threads should be a thi-

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    BORUTO IS INCREDIBLY BAD HOLY **** BUT LETS TALK ABOUT THE BORUTO SIDE STORIES!!!!

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    So does anyone else think that it's really weird that the story arc that's supposed to be about Code invading the Leaf Village took a sudden side-step into "this is why Boruto and Kawaki were fighting in the prolog?"
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    So does anyone else think that it's really weird that the story arc that's supposed to be about Code invading the Leaf Village took a sudden side-step into "this is why Boruto and Kawaki were fighting in the prolog?"
    Yes, and I hope for something interesting to occur due to multiple stories happening at once.

    Perhaps Kawaki becomes the hero for real due to temporary vanquishing Code, but it was only a reset the table due to a time skip type thing. Like we have a time skip and the Code who is not truly vanquished is the first arc similar to the Hidan and Kakuzu arc. Meanwhile Boruto is doing Missing Nin stuff. At the same time there is a mystery going on layering the 2nd and 3rd arc after the time skip.

    Do I have any confidence this will be a happy / good story? Well No
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    So does anyone else think that it's really weird that the story arc that's supposed to be about Code invading the Leaf Village took a sudden side-step into "this is why Boruto and Kawaki were fighting in the prolog?"
    No because Code is such a fail-son diversion that the fact that he existed when we knew, knew knew knew from the very start, that nothing he was going to do would matter because this is the Kawaki vs Boruto show, just makes the fact that he's sitting there on his stupid ass plopping out hot-topic belt covered putties hoping to attack the city while all the relevant plot **** is happening INCREDIBLY funny.

    I'll talk more about it when I get back from work but there is... so much I need need need to say about the shape Boruto has taken and how it's suddenly remembered "right we need to build up to a flashforward". God, it's ****ing terrible (affectionate). Haven't felt like this in a long time.

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    Yes, and I hope for something interesting to occur due to multiple stories happening at once.

    Perhaps Kawaki becomes the hero for real due to temporary vanquishing Code, but it was only a reset the table due to a time skip type thing. Like we have a time skip and the Code who is not truly vanquished is the first arc similar to the Hidan and Kakuzu arc. Meanwhile Boruto is doing Missing Nin stuff. At the same time there is a mystery going on layering the 2nd and 3rd arc after the time skip.

    Do I have any confidence this will be a happy / good story? Well No
    I certanly will, especially about the Boruto Side Stories, but I'm at work so I can't go full depth into it. all I'll say now is, the Mirai side story where Mirai escorts Kakashi and Guy on their honeymoon is perfectly in tone with early series Naruto and extremely worth your time, and the Sasuke side story is the only successful instance of showing Sasuke and Sakura are functional human beings in love to ever exist in canon, among other things like "actually being really interesting from a ninja action standpoint" and "Sasuke fist fighting a dinosaur is very funny".

    The difference between the side stories and main Boruto plotline is night and day in terms of quality and no I will not shut up about it.

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    So... Theories on why Sarada and Sumire are apprently immune to Ada's powers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rater202 View Post
    So... Theories on why Sarada and Sumire are apprently immune to Ada's powers?
    well on the Naruto wiki, it lists the exceptions to her captivation powers are:
    -blood relatives
    -Otsutsuki

    its possible that Sarada having the Sharingan is enough to be considered an "Otsutsuki" given how it works and what developing the Sharingan eventually leads to. Sumire, I have no idea. If Sarada's Sharingan doesn't count then Sakura has some explaining to do because it'd take some interesting connections for these three to all be blood related while Sasuke's family is all accounted for because they are dead. if the Sharingan does count however, then a blood relative connection between Ada and Sumire could be a thing given that they are characters with less focus than Sarada, something like them sharing a mother that had more than one love in their life, whatever it happens.
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    Sumire has Hashirama cells. If the Sharigan counts then that should count.
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    Sumire has Hashirama cells. If the Sharigan counts then that should count.
    Ah, right, Hashirama cells can do anything, that checks out, all Otutsuki nonsense. Nevermind everyone, no interesting familial connections here, as per usual for Naruto world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Raziere View Post
    well on the Naruto wiki, it lists the exceptions to her captivation powers are:
    -blood relatives
    -Otsutsuki

    its possible that Sarada having the Sharingan is enough to be considered an "Otsutsuki" given how it works and what developing the Sharingan eventually leads to. Sumire, I have no idea. If Sarada's Sharingan doesn't count then Sakura has some explaining to do because it'd take some interesting connections for these three to all be blood related while Sasuke's family is all accounted for because they are dead. if the Sharingan does count however, then a blood relative connection between Ada and Sumire could be a thing given that they are characters with less focus than Sarada, something like them sharing a mother that had more than one love in their life, whatever it happens.
    Do we know if Sasuke is affected or not, because that is the hinge on which "Sharingan makes you immune". And given the Byakugan is CLOSER to the Otutsuki eyes... and it still affects them, I'm guessing Sasuke is, in fact, affected by it.

    My personal pet theory on why Sarada, at least, is immune has always been that she's just too gay for Eida's Forced Love effect to hit her. Can't alter her reality if this reality IS true already...

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    Sumire has Hashirama cells. If the Sharigan counts then that should count.
    Did not know about that, since Sumire hasn't done Jack And **** in the manga. God Naruto is dumb sometimes.

    SO! Time to extoll the virtues of the Boruto Side Stories.

    STEAM NINJA SCROLLS: Mirai escorting Kakashi and Guy on their honeymoon has, as said, that early Naruto comedy and down-to-earth nature that I truly, truly love. It's precious seeing Guy and Kakashi interact; they're so married guys, they're so so married. Kakashi orders food he doesn't like so Guy can eat it even though Guy gets an upset stomach about it. They are so adorable together and I love them. Mirai is, meanwhile, a beautifully brilliant character, related to the best part of late game Naruto (everything to do with Asuma) and seeing her try to live up to her dad is fantastic. The other cameos showing up are great too; Mirai has to save Kiba's marriage! Mirai has to make potato chips for Choji! Mirai is being forced to participate in ghost pranks with Ten-ten! It's all so good and goofy and fun, in a way Boruto basically never is. And the return of Hidan's cult is a fun way to care about anything in this series that isn't eyeball related.

    THE UCHIHA'S AND THE STARLIGHT SCROLL: Sasuke infiltrates a nation that has no ninjas, sneaking into prison to try and find information on the location of a cure that might help Naruto's chakra-sickness. While within, he learns the prison is rather open doored... because of the indestructible and unstoppable prison guard, a velociraptor with an unbelievable ability to murder. This is legitimately fascinating- Sasuke using high stealth, low power ninjutsu to do ACTUAL NINJA STUFF as he explores the prison and tries to find out what the deal is. The few times he does use his eye powers are against things it doesn't work on, and we finally learn the true weakness of all this wiggy eyeball ****: NOT HAVING EYES. Incredible ****ing work there, I love it. This is also, as said, the only time Sasuke and Sakura's relationship has EVER felt functional... and it's because a pretty prison boy heard like 10% of the dysfunction we know about his marriage and went "wow buddy you're a ****ing terrible husband" and it actually got through that thick skull of his! The bit with the cherry blossom tree is, in particular, king **** romance. It's so good! Also, the little puzzle to determine the location of the ultraparticle (stupid name but not a sin) was actually quite clever, and I figured it out before our heroes so I feel smart.

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    So the thing with Sumire is that she was created for the Anime and then added to the manga afterward.

    All th eBortuo Anime filler is technically "canon" due to greater cooperation between manga writers and anime writers, a pattern that I hope catches on in the industry

    I'm gonna put this in spoiler tags just in case someone hasn't seen the first arc of the Boruto Anime but
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    Simire is the daughter of one of Danzo's followers, someone who drank deeply from Root's Kool-Aid.

    She was raised as a weapon to be used to destroy the leaf village in revenge for... Danzo not being put in charge, I guess? Ironically for as bad as Danzo could get this would be a line to far for him.

    Her father literally died for his frothing hared, giving his life in the creation of 1: A creature called the Nue(based ont he Yokai of the same name) and 2: A custom summoning contract.

    The Nue is made of Hashirama Cells, and the contract was placed on Sumire's back using more Hahsirama cells as a medium.

    The Nue was designed to enter spiritual form, bond toe people, turn their negativity into power, and then eventually self-destruct taking out the village when it was strong enough.

    After being caught, Sumire attempted to trigger this... But chickened out at the last minute, not wanting to kill her friends or sacrifice the Nue(which was completely loyal to her.)

    This broke the hatred powering the technique, causing the contract to reform as one on her hand instead.

    So while Sumire doesn't have Wood Release or Regeneration, she does have Hashirama cells in her system and the Nue has all the powers you'd expect of something made of Hashirma cells. Well, it hasn't demonstrated Wood Release to my knowledge but it's got the bull**** power level and the regen.
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    Do we know if Sasuke is affected or not, because that is the hinge on which "Sharingan makes you immune". And given the Byakugan is CLOSER to the Otutsuki eyes... and it still affects them, I'm guessing Sasuke is, in fact, affected by it.

    My personal pet theory on why Sarada, at least, is immune has always been that she's just too gay for Eida's Forced Love effect to hit her. Can't alter her reality if this reality IS true already...
    Unfortunately I've yet to find evidence of Sasuke and Ada meeting.

    I mean the flaw in your theory and evidence is that we're assuming good consistent writing and like willingness to be brave. I'd agree with the possibility of Sarada just being gay giving her an immunity (this still doesn't explain Sumire but hey if it can work for Sarada why not Sumire and I'd be 100% up for Sumire X Sarada over either of them ending up with Boruto) if I had any faith in Boruto to write that well in that direction.

    the bad writing possibility is that they simply forgot the Byakugan is supposed to be "more powerful" and start making the Sharingan relevant because main character powers again, probably because nostalgia. because no matter what canon says, the edgy red eye is what spawned a million edgy OC's not the white eye.
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    SO! Time to extoll the virtues of the Boruto Side Stories.

    STEAM NINJA SCROLLS: Mirai escorting Kakashi and Guy on their honeymoon has, as said, that early Naruto comedy and down-to-earth nature that I truly, truly love. It's precious seeing Guy and Kakashi interact; they're so married guys, they're so so married. Kakashi orders food he doesn't like so Guy can eat it even though Guy gets an upset stomach about it. They are so adorable together and I love them. Mirai is, meanwhile, a beautifully brilliant character, related to the best part of late game Naruto (everything to do with Asuma) and seeing her try to live up to her dad is fantastic. The other cameos showing up are great too; Mirai has to save Kiba's marriage! Mirai has to make potato chips for Choji! Mirai is being forced to participate in ghost pranks with Ten-ten! It's all so good and goofy and fun, in a way Boruto basically never is. And the return of Hidan's cult is a fun way to care about anything in this series that isn't eyeball related.
    So a watcher of the anime, who is going to be acting Hokage while Naruto and Hinata are in the time lock prison?

    is it going to be Kakashi again, or Guy, or someone else like Konohamaru?
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    So the thing with Sumire is that she was created for the Anime and then added to the manga afterward.

    All th eBortuo Anime filler is technically "canon" due to greater cooperation between manga writers and anime writers, a pattern that I hope catches on in the industry

    I'm gonna put this in spoiler tags just in case someone hasn't seen the first arc of the Boruto Anime but
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    Simire is the daughter of one of Danzo's followers, someone who drank deeply from Root's Kool-Aid.

    She was raised as a weapon to be used to destroy the leaf village in revenge for... Danzo not being put in charge, I guess? Ironically for as bad as Danzo could get this would be a line to far for him.

    Her father literally died for his frothing hared, giving his life in the creation of 1: A creature called the Nue(based ont he Yokai of the same name) and 2: A custom summoning contract.

    The Nue is made of Hashirama Cells, and the contract was placed on Sumire's back using more Hahsirama cells as a medium.

    The Nue was designed to enter spiritual form, bond toe people, turn their negativity into power, and then eventually self-destruct taking out the village when it was strong enough.

    After being caught, Sumire attempted to trigger this... But chickened out at the last minute, not wanting to kill her friends or sacrifice the Nue(which was completely loyal to her.)

    This broke the hatred powering the technique, causing the contract to reform as one on her hand instead.

    So while Sumire doesn't have Wood Release or Regeneration, she does have Hashirama cells in her system and the Nue has all the powers you'd expect of something made of Hashirma cells. Well, it hasn't demonstrated Wood Release to my knowledge but it's got the bull**** power level and the regen.
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    Aside from the addition of Hashirama Cells which is the worst thing in Naruto till "the programming code used by the gods", that's not actually that terrible? Nue is a fun yokai, and using it as a sort of imitation Tailed Beast is a neat idea. I think your idea that Danzo would consider this a step too far is ludicrous given he ordered the extermination of the Uchiha clan and put all of their eyeballs in his arm- he's not that stable a dude.

    Still, weird that literally none of this has been brought up in the manga despite being canon!


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    Unfortunately I've yet to find evidence of Sasuke and Ada meeting.

    I mean the flaw in your theory and evidence is that we're assuming good consistent writing and like willingness to be brave. I'd agree with the possibility of Sarada just being gay giving her an immunity (this still doesn't explain Sumire but hey if it can work for Sarada why not Sumire and I'd be 100% up for Sumire X Sarada over either of them ending up with Boruto) if I had any faith in Boruto to write that well in that direction.

    the bad writing possibility is that they simply forgot the Byakugan is supposed to be "more powerful" and start making the Sharingan relevant because main character powers again, probably because nostalgia. because no matter what canon says, the edgy red eye is what spawned a million edgy OC's not the white eye.
    Sumire can be bi!

    I'm 100% sure it's just bad writing. Boruto doesn't even have the Byakugan and he's half Hyuga. Given he is thematically the Sasuke of his three man group, he SHOULD have magic eyeballs, and the Byakugan has always been cooler than the Sharingan while also still being more balanced.

    EDIT: As per who gets to be the Hokage after Naruto... I mean, it's Shikamaru, obviously. Dude is practically doing half of Naruto's job in the first place.
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    ....So Sarada and Sumire both canonically have crushes on Bort.

    It would be terrible writing for that to be why they're immune, but like...

    (Honestly, I ship Bort/Mitsuki.)

    Okay, if there's no evidence of Sasuke having met Ada then... Maybe it's a Chakra thing?

    Sumire having Hashirama cells would mean she has Asura's chakra, and Ashura was 1/th Otsutski.

    And Sarada... I mean, we can infer from the fact that Bort and Himawari have whisker marks that you can pass certain unique chakras from father to child, whisker marks are a sign of prenatal exposure to Kurama's chakra.

    Sasuke... Has Indra's chakra, Hagaromo's Yang Chakra, and Ten-Tails Chakra. Any or all of which he could have passed down to Sarada.

    So they might count as Otsutsukis becuase their chakra contains Otsutsuki chakra.

    Edit: Bort does in fact have Magic Eyeballs: He has a bloodline called Jogan. It first manifested in the Academy Arc, but we see him using it in th eprolong, including in the Manga.

    It' origins are mysterious but it's been said to be something inherited from the Otsutsuki Clan and that it's "problematic"

    He just can't control when it turns on and off.
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    So a watcher of the anime, who is going to be acting Hokage while Naruto and Hinata are in the time lock prison?

    is it going to be Kakashi again, or Guy, or someone else like Konohamaru?
    Sasuke.

    He is considered this Supporting Kage and has been consistently taking charge whenever Naruto has been unavailable. Kakashi is like, retired.

    and Guy? Haahahahahaha, no. Konohamaru.....I'm not seeing it. Second Kakashi, Konohamaru ain't.
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    ....So Sarada and Sumire both canonically have crushes on Bort.

    It would be terrible writing for that to be why they're immune, but like...

    (Honestly, I ship Bort/Mitsuki.)

    Okay, if there's no evidence of Sasuke having met Ada then... Maybe it's a Chakra thing?

    Sumire having Hashirama cells would mean she has Asura's chakra, and Ashura was 1/th Otsutski.

    And Sarada... I mean, we can infer from the fact that Bort and Himawari have whisker marks that you can pass certain unique chakras from father to child, whisker marks are a sign of prenatal exposure to Kurama's chakra.

    Sasuke... Has Indra's chakra, Hagaromo's Yang Chakra, and Ten-Tails Chakra. Any or all of which he could have passed down to Sarada.

    So they might count as Otsutsukis becuase their chakra contains Otsutsuki chakra.
    They could both be bi! Also it's really just a tongue in cheek theory because Boruto is the sort of bad where "nothing you can come up with will ever be accurate to the canon". Never in a million billion years would I predict there would be a reject spare body who dresses like he fell into a Hot Topic clothing bin, and never in those same years would I predict where Eida's power would lead the plot, and never in a trillion years would I EVER, EVER, expect Shikamaru being like "hey Eida logically speaking you have no reason to be our enemy" to actually work and the fact that it did is truly inspired.

    Interesting theories as to why, though!

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    Aside from the addition of Hashirama Cells which is the worst thing in Naruto till "the programming code used by the gods", that's not actually that terrible? Nue is a fun yokai, and using it as a sort of imitation Tailed Beast is a neat idea. I think your idea that Danzo would consider this a step too far is ludicrous given he ordered the extermination of the Uchiha clan and put all of their eyeballs in his arm- he's not that stable a dude.

    Still, weird that literally none of this has been brought up in the manga despite being canon!


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    @Zodi are you sure you want Sarada and Sumire to be bi?

    Because if Ada's plot thread isn't resolved by the end of the Arc we may get a situation where those three spend the time skip on the run, wanted criminals with only themselves to rely on... All in the most awkward years of puberty.

    Yeah, that's just asking for a dysfunctional thrupple.

    Anyway, the thread progressed past my edit: Boruto does have Magic eyes.

    He has the Jogan, a Dojutsu similar to the Byakugan, which is demonstrated in the prolog and shown more in-depth in the first arc of the anime.

    It has the sam chakra-seeing abilities as the Byakugan, but trades the expanded field of vision for the ability to see emotions—stated explicitly to be a visual version of the negativity-sensing power that Naruto gained after mastering Kurama's chakra.

    It's stated to be something Boruto inherited from the Otsutsuki Clan and that it's a "troublesome" power.

    As a kid he doesn't seem to be able to control it but he's shown using it in the Prolog as a teen so, you know.

    ...Also, when he draws strongly enough on the Kama he gets Momoshiki's Byakugan in the same eye. Again, he's not shown to be able to do that deliberately just yet, but give it time.

    (Given that he's genetically 87% "Momoshiki but with anything useful from Bort" and 13% "the Otsutsuki equivalent of what was left of Bort" I imagine that if push comes to shove he could manifest Momoshiki's Rinnegan as well.)
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    @Zodi are you sure you want Sarada and Sumire to be bi?

    Because if Ada's plot thread isn't resolved by the end of the Arc we may get a situation where those three spend the time skip on the run, wanted criminals with only themselves to rely on... All in the most awkward years of puberty.

    Yeah, that's just asking for a dysfunctional thrupple.
    I would!

    Bring on the dysfunction, let there be interpersonal problems and conflict for the characters to overcome, let it be messy and have high and lows, take me on an emotional rollercoaster, anything, just don't be boring.

    this possibility? anything but boring.
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    Oh you do not like the fairy tail switch? I guess I am a sucker for such nonsense tied to a wish. A wish in its most raw / spirited form before you try to think about it. And such stories are often an iskeai like experience with the trading places.

    Yes it is BS scaling, but I see it as fairy tale logic.
    I hate the mind altering super programming power of the gods because, of all the ways this could have panned out, this is actively the stupidest, worst, most heavy handed way they could POSSIBLY do it. It's "fairy tale logic" I suppose, but it's just... Kishimoto, stop, Samurai 8 is dead. You cannot keep on inserting high science fantasy concepts into your ninja magic series. Plz.

    RE: Sumire and Sarada being bi

    See having a ****ing up throuple dynamic would make them more interesting imho. It'd allow Sumire to Do Anything in the manga. Also I don't believe Sarada or anyone will be leaving with Boruto.

    But yeah, I'd be okay with it. I'll be perfectly honest I hoped Kishimoto just forgot about that flash forward and the entire series would be horrific teen drama with Eida skirting the line between "no Boruto you are a child I'm not falling in love with you, but also I'm still a child too so the adults perving on me because of this is also weird" and Sarada having to Teen Girl Squad this to save the day. It's ten times more interesting than what's happening now. Likewise with her awful invincible brother Damien. He's awful and I hate him but at least he does interesting things like "completely mopping the floor with powered up Code" and "getting excited about how Himiwari might get to do one(1) plot thing when she goes total beast mode".

    Right, he has the moon rabbit alien eyeballs. Didn't realize that was anything special.
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    ...Honestly, part of me just wants to see the full extent of Code's Power.

    I want to know the full limits of what a White Kama can do. That is relevant to my interests.

    Then he can like, die or something.
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    ...Honestly, part of me just wants to see the full extent of Code's Power.

    I want to know the full limits of what a White Kama can do. That is relevant to my interests.

    Then he can like, die or something.
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    Thought.

    Momoshiki and Urashiki's Rinnegan don't seem to have the powers of the Six Paths and neither of them seem to have Sharingan.

    Kaguya got her Rinne Sharingan, and thus her descendants Rinnegans and Sharingans came from the chakra fruit.

    Now, Sibai seems to have had Rinnegan and his body was apparently on Earth, so presumably, his data was in the chakra fruit she ate which would explain where the Rinnegan half of her Rinne Sharingan, but he did not seem to have a Sharingan.

    So either the Sharingan(and possibly most of the powers of the Rinnegan as we see it on Earth) were patched together from the traits of beings from Earth that lives there before Kaguya...

    Or the Sharingan is a power native to Earth, not the Otsutsukis

    Also, apparently, there have been six Otsutsukis who have come to Earth, not counting Urashiki who is an anime-only character who hasn't been alluded to in the manga yet.

    Kaguya, Ishiki, Momoshiki, Kinshiki, and Shibai... The Sixth is unaccounted for.

    I've seen some people theorize that Jashin, the deity that Hidan worships, might have been the sixth given that jashinism encourages slaughter and bloodshed(things that, if widespread, accelerate the development of a chakra fruit,) the seemingly miraculous nature of Hidan's immortality technique, and certain... Inconsistencies in Jashinis doctrine like the bit about not killing priests of other religions (obviously Jashin wouldn't want to kill the minions of other Otsutsukis...)
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    Not going to argue what Rater202 just asked for I need to stew on it.

    This is many things, like over 24 years authors getting new ideas but also doing retcons to make the new ideas feel organic to the old thing. A successful narrative graph in other words where you graph new plants on old roots. But

    1) orochimaru’s cursed seals are very similar as the Kami in function. Like a butterfly wings or a bats wings is not a birds wings, yet there are similar enough we can compare them in a convergent evolution fashion.

    2) resurrecting Kaguya via Black Zetsu and recreating a similar enough Chakra profile, to then allow Black Zetsu to insert himself into Madara to then resurrect Kaguya is very similar to Kama. It is like Kaguya wanted a living and breathing thinking Kama, and that said Kama needed to do extra steps (for some mystery / miracle reasons) to achieve the same result. But perhaps this different but similar method allows Black Zetsu to choose the vessel and have a higher chance of success for we know that of 15 potentials, 13 died, and those potentials may not be everday people but were people best thought to have he possibility to survive the process. There is a compatibility layer with Ōtsutsuki virus for they are rabbit people, aliens from the moon / outer-space.
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    So apparently the Code Assault Arc has officially be broken up and the last several chapters are now the Omnipotence Arc.

    The Good: If this is the Omnipotence Arc then the Omnipotence plot thread will probably not continue past this arc, there will probably be some sort of resolution to it.

    The Bad: The Code Assault Arc ended before there was, in fact, an assault by Code.
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    Thought.

    Momoshiki and Urashiki's Rinnegan don't seem to have the powers of the Six Paths and neither of them seem to have Sharingan.

    Kaguya got her Rinne Sharingan, and thus her descendants Rinnegans and Sharingans came from the chakra fruit.

    Now, Sibai seems to have had Rinnegan and his body was apparently on Earth, so presumably, his data was in the chakra fruit she ate which would explain where the Rinnegan half of her Rinne Sharingan, but he did not seem to have a Sharingan.

    So either the Sharingan(and possibly most of the powers of the Rinnegan as we see it on Earth) were patched together from the traits of beings from Earth that lives there before Kaguya...

    Or the Sharingan is a power native to Earth, not the Otsutsukis

    Also, apparently, there have been six Otsutsukis who have come to Earth, not counting Urashiki who is an anime-only character who hasn't been alluded to in the manga yet.

    Kaguya, Ishiki, Momoshiki, Kinshiki, and Shibai... The Sixth is unaccounted for.

    I've seen some people theorize that Jashin, the deity that Hidan worships, might have been the sixth given that jashinism encourages slaughter and bloodshed(things that, if widespread, accelerate the development of a chakra fruit,) the seemingly miraculous nature of Hidan's immortality technique, and certain... Inconsistencies in Jashinis doctrine like the bit about not killing priests of other religions (obviously Jashin wouldn't want to kill the minions of other Otsutsukis...)
    I have no thoughts about any of the space rabbit eyeball magic stuff.

    HOWEVER! The Steam Ninja Chronicles is now ramping up to one of its main points; exploring said murder cult indepth at all! We've learned how the immortality works (you need to ritually kill a certain amount of people) and we've learned a bit more about their motives (they despise tranquility and life, and wish to save us from the peace that weakens us). It's neat!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rater202 View Post
    So apparently the Code Assault Arc has officially be broken up and the last several chapters are now the Omnipotence Arc.

    The Good: If this is the Omnipotence Arc then the Omnipotence plot thread will probably not continue past this arc, there will probably be some sort of resolution to it.

    The Bad: The Code Assault Arc ended before there was, in fact, an assault by Code.
    I mean this arc is gonna be the entire rest of the series I'd imagine! So that's less than good.

    Lol Code though. What an absolute failure of a character.

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    1 month later, Sarada has a Mangekyō we do not know what it does.

    And one Boruto era ends with this arc resolved and a new one begins in August.
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    I think it's very interesting that yo can unlock Mangekyo not out of guilt or grief but out of fear for someone else's wellbeing.
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    I think it's very interesting that yo can unlock Mangekyo not out of guilt or grief but out of fear for someone else's wellbeing.
    It is merely strong feels creating depth and contradiction is my read of it? One feeling often granted to us via society / others and it spins up like a motor, an Impeller, and when it reaches a contradiction this original feeling morphs into a new feeling and a Mangekyo is born. Yes guilt and grief are often the cause for those are obsessional nervous feelings that were once outside of us but become inside of us to the point it is our strongest affect and drives our own motor.
    Yes we been given contra lore over time, and the lore drops keep on changing our sense of things.
    A “transmutation of feelings” that is what guilt and grief are…are they not? We are creatures who move through time and our feelings latch onto new things in the process and thus transmutate like metals mixing forming new alloys / new allows. Sarada had a bond to Boruto, yet that Boruto is dead, yet Sarada sees him as alive but now her feelings concerning society are also dead / born anew? Transmutation

    Was the second Hokage right? (I am rhetorically asking, please remain jovial, I too see the lore+meaning slips)
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