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    Ogre in the Playground
     
    GnomePirate

    Join Date
    Apr 2020
    Location
    Jerusalem
    Gender
    Male

    Post Villainous Competition L: L-O-V-E!

    Cold-hearted crooks lurk in shadowy streets. Evil masterminds plot the demise of civilizations. Terrible abominations rise to slaughter and devour the innocent, and grim tyrants plan their next move. Welcome… to the Villainous Competition!

    Each round of the villainous competition, our conniving contestants need to build a villain showcasing a different theme, and following a different set of associated limitations. This round, however, is different. Whether they be Bonnie and Clyde or Lord and Lady Macbeth, this round's villains are…


    The Lovers!




    Limitations:


    • Prepare for trouble…: In this special round, you won't be making a single villain going to CR 20, but two villains, going to EL 20 in accordance with the "mixed pair" rules on page 49 of the DMG. The lovers must always be encountered together, and their EL must always be higher than the individual CR of each of them. They don't have to always advance in CR in the same pace, though.
    • And make it double!: The lovers should form a whole larger than its parts: the more they rely on each other, the better. The more unique combos they can do that none could do on their own, the better.
    • The things I do for love: The lovers are a romantic duo, and should make sense as such. Both have to be single intelligent creatures, with a similar form of mind and level of conciousness.
    • Would you die for me?: At least one of the villains must be evil, and neither may be good.

    Let the carnage begin!




    Rules of the Competition:

    Contestants:
    It is highly recommended for a new contestants to look over a few entries from past rounds to understand what's the expected presentation. We're a little bit different than most optimization competitions. We use CR, not ECL. Each entry presents a villain going up to CR 20, with ability scores based on the elite array (15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8).
    The contestant is to give a stub of the build (EG "Drow weretiger ranger 4/ Cleric 10"), flesh out the full build progression using the table(s) found in the submission and deadlines section, give notes on what the villain does and how it is to be used throughout its CR range, and fully source every aspect of the build that can't be found in the SRD. But what are the allowed sources?

    Secret Laboratory:
    Competitors will be free to use any official 1st party (WotC) 3.5 rulebook in constructing their builds. Dragon Compendium is allowed, but individual copies of Dragon magazine are disallowed. Unupdated 3.0 materials, as well as web exclusives by WotC are expressly allowed, but take care to verify that an updated version did not appear in print elsewhere. Unearthed Arcana is allowed but limited: The variant character options (such as Wildshape Ranger and Thug Fighter) should not be penalized. Flaws carry a 1 point elegance penalty, and traits carry half of that. Item familiars, gestalt, alternate skill systems, alternate magic systems, alternate crafting rules, generic base classes, LA buyoff, fractional saves/BAB, and bloodlines are banned. Anything not mentioned here is up to individual judges.
    Builds that are fully monstrous are allowed at no penalty. All class levels are to be added on as associated class levels – meaning, each class level adds 1 CR, with the exception of NPC classes. See clarifications for more details.
    Leadership and similar abilities are completely banned. Undead Leadership and Dragon Cohort are likewise banned. Wild Cohort and Obtain Familiar are allowed. If you are not sure if a specific feat violates the 'no leadership' rule, err on the side of caution, or ask me.

    Epic Rules:
    We do not use epic progression for BaB and saves in this competition. Remember that four iteratives are still the maximum amount granted by BaB, even if it gets to 21 or more.
    A villain is eligible to Epic feats from HD 21 and above, as normal, but Epic Spellcasting and all other Epic feats that affect spells, psionic powers, or item creation are not permitted. For Incarnum characters, Epic Open Chakra feats are allowed; other Epic Incarnum feats are not. The Essentia Capacity increases for Epic capacity as described on p. 212.

    Submission and deadlines:
    Contestants will have until June 12th, 11:00 GMT to create their builds and PM them to the Chair (H_H_F_F).
    Put the name of your build and "Villainous Competition round n" as your PM subject. You may ask for an extension if required. The villains will then be posted anonymously – make sure that your PM does not include any identifying details. While waiting for the builds to be posted, please avoid speculation (see speculation rules below). A contestant may submit up to 2 entries.
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    CR Class Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Skills Feats Class Features
    1 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    2 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    3 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    4 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    5 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    6 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    7 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    8 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    9 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    10 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    11 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    12 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    13 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    14 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    15 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    16 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    17 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    18 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    19 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
    20 New Class Level +x +x +x +x Skills Feats New Class Abilities
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    [table="class: head alt1 alt2"]
    [tr]
    [th][B]CR[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Class[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Base Attack Bonus[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Fort Save[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Ref Save[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Will Save[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Skills[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Feats[/B][/th]
    [th][B]Class Features[/B][/th]
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    [td]1[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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    [tr]
    [td]2[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
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    [td]+x[/td]
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    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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    [tr]
    [td]3[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
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    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
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    [tr]
    [td]4[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
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    [td]Skills[/td]
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    [td]5[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
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    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]6[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]7[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]8[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]9[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]10[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]11[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]12[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]13[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]14[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]15[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]16[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]17[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]18[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]19[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]20[/td]
    [td]New Class Level[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]+x[/td]
    [td]Skills[/td]
    [td]Feats[/td]
    [td]New Class Abilities[/td]
    [/tr]
    [/table]

    Spoiler: spell table
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    Spells per Day/Spells Known
    Spells per Day/Spells Known
    Level 0lvl 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th
    1st - - - - - - - - - -
    2nd - - - - - - - - - -
    3rd - - - - - - - - - -
    4th - - - - - - - - - -
    5th - - - - - - - - - -
    6th - - - - - - - - - -
    7th - - - - - - - - - -
    8th - - - - - - - - - -
    9th - - - - - - - - - -
    10th - - - - - - - - - -
    11th - - - - - - - - - -
    12th - - - - - - - - - -
    13th - - - - - - - - - -
    14th - - - - - - - - - -
    15th - - - - - - - - - -
    16th - - - - - - - - - -
    17th - - - - - - - - - -
    18th - - - - - - - - - -
    19th - - - - - - - - - -
    20th - - - - - - - - - -
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    [B]Spells per Day/Spells Known[/B]
    [B]Spells per Day/Spells Known[/B]
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    [tr]
    [th][B]Level[/B][/th]
    [th][B]0lvl[/B][/th]
    [th][B]1st[/B][/th]
    [th][B]2nd[/B][/th]
    [th][B]3rd[/B][/th]
    [th][B]4th[/B][/th]
    [th][B]5th[/B][/th]
    [th][B]6th[/B][/th]
    [th][B]7th[/B][/th]
    [th][B]8th[/B][/th]
    [th][B]9th[/B][/th]
    [/tr]
    [tr]
    [td]1st[/td]
    [td]-[/td]
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    [/tr]
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    [td]5th[/td]
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    [td]6th[/td]
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    [td]9th[/td]
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    [td]11th[/td]
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    [/table]
    More useful tables can be found here, made by the immaculate Mattie_p.
    Once the villains are posted, judges should strive to finish their judgement until June 30th.

    Judging:
    It is highly recommended that prospective judges read through some past judgements. Judges are to give scores between 1-5 in the following four criteria: Originality, Power, Elegance and Memorable Villainy. Judges are not to use alternative criteria or score ranges. A 0 in elegance is permitted for strictly illegal or incomplete builds, but a score lower than 1 in other categories is generally not allowed.
    Originality: Is the build creative? Was it surprising in the context of this round? On the other hand, does it use expected or well-known methods?
    Power: Is it a powerful and threatening villain? On the other hand, does it have any glaring weaknesses?
    Elegance: Is it mechanically pretty? Is it clever? On the other hand, does it have rules or presentation issues? Does it rely on shaky interpretations of text? If you find that you have trouble with this category, remember: "no issues" doesn't have to be a 5! Like all others, this category has positive criteria to follow, not just negative criteria to be avoided.
    Memorable Villainy: Is this a villain with style and presence? Is it interesting to face against? Does it live up to the established theme and the spirit of the round? On the other hand, does it feel more like an encounter-of-the-week than a true BBEG?
    Please try to follow the following judging guidelines:
    Spoiler: Legal Sources: Always Allowed, Never Mandatory
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    This rule means that every source that has been declared legal for this competition is fair game. Using obscure sources, or a large amount of sources, is not by itself subject to a penalty in elegance; Similarly, using only a small amount of sources, or sources that are very well known, is not by itself subject to a penalty in originality.

    Spoiler: One Mistake, One Penalty
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    Judges are only allowed to penalize once for a given mistake. If someone messes up their skills and doesn't qualify for a PrC, ding them as hard as you like. Once. In one category. You don't then get to declare that because they didn't qualify for that PrC, they don't get those levels, and thus don't qualify for anything else. If Ranger is a common ingredient, ding them for Originality. Once. Don't also take off points for Two-Weapon-Fighting being a common ingredient.

    Non-exhaustive list of examples:

    Skills
    Allowed:
    • Giving a penalty for miscalculating the number of skill points gained
    • Giving a penalty for not having enough ranks to meet a prerequisite
    • Increasing the harshness of a skill miscalculation penalty if it affects critical skills including prereqs


    Not allowed:
    • Giving separate penalties for miscalculating skill points and for non-qualification where the non-qualification is solely caused by the miscalculation

    Prereqs
    Allowed:
    • Giving a penalty for not meeting prereqs
    • Scaling the penalty depending on how important the item that the build failed to qualify for is
    • Not giving credit for (note: not the same as penalising for) tactics using feats or classes that were not qualified for (but see below)


    Not Allowed:
    • "Cascading" failures to qualify - declaring that because a build doesn't qualify for a feat, for example, it also doesn't qualify for anything using that feat as a prereq
    • Treating a build as having fewer levels than it does because of FtQ for classes

    Note that these are protections, not licenses. Deliberately taking a feat that you know you don't qualify for hoping to just suck up the judging penalty for a feat that you couldn't normally take is not okay, and may lead to your build being disqualified.

    Spoiler: More Power To You
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    An important note on power, cheese, and CR appropriateness:
    Being "too strong for your CR" is not by itself something a judge should penalize here. Using poorly supported cheese or cheese that isn't doing anything interesting in the build can and should get an elegance penalty. Using well-known or otherwise obvious and boring tricks can and should be penalized in originality – but power level by itself is not to be addressed anywhere other than the power category. Same goes for being too weak – that should not affect memorable villainy or anything outside of power by itself. If it helps, you can imagine low-powered villains used against low-op groups, high-powered villains against high-op groups, and TO nonsense villains pitted against TO nonsense PCs.


    Speculation:
    Please don’t post or speculate on possible builds until the reveal, in order to avoid spoiling the surprise if a particular competitor is producing a build along those lines.
    Once builds are revealed, please do not comment on errors or rules issues on entries unless you are a judge. If you have such a comment, wait until the final reveal to post it.

    Spoiler: Previous Rounds
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    Round One: Leader of Armies
    Round Two: Nature's Avenger
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    Very interesting. I'm currently looking into entries for JYW and MM, but we'll see if I get time and inspiration for this one as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurbane View Post
    Very interesting. I'm currently looking into entries for JYW and MM, but we'll see if I get time and inspiration for this one as well.
    As I mentioned in the previous round, I intentionally pushed back the deadline here so that everyone could have time, and I'd be open to extending it further.
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    Thank you for the deadline extension: currently I'm mostly busy researching sources of smite for Junkyard Wars, so having some more time for that is quite helpful.

    The concept is certainly interesting!
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    I love (no pun intended) the concept. I may have something for it, yet my ideas either are a lovestory or villains. So far I'm not connecting the two things very well. Let's see if I can come up with something that satisfies the theme as well as the villainy.

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    I've got an idea for the competition, so I'll probably be joining this contest as well. I'll see what I get together in the next few days.

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    Hey folks!

    Just a reminder that we're a couple of weeks away from the current deadline. Who's thinking about submitting? How is everybody doing?
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    Hey folks!

    Just a reminder that we're a couple of weeks away from the current deadline. Who's thinking about submitting? How is everybody doing?
    I didn't even look. Some IRL and other competitions. I'll look maybe after IC revealing. Maybe shall ask extension.
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    I'm working on a submission, though so far I haven't made too much progress. I'll give updates on my progress as the deadline approaches.

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    I might submit something for this, but Junkyard is still taking up some of my time and I might look into Monster Mash as well.
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    The things I do for love: The lovers are a romantic duo
    I should ask. This should be exactly romantic love? Not, for example, love to the Homeland or mother's love?
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    Quote Originally Posted by loky1109 View Post
    I should ask. This should be exactly romantic love? Not, for example, love to the Homeland or mother's love?
    Yes, the intention is for them to be a romantic duo.

    Obviously, this isn't a creative writing competition, and you're not expected to write the best love story of all time or anything - but they're meant to make sense as a couple. This is why "similar form of mind and level of consciousness" is expected. A man can love a dog and a dog can love a man, but if you've presented a man-dog duo here you've done something wrong.
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    I see. Well, I have some idea... But highly likely I'll need more time. Don't know right now.

    One more question.
    Is this calculator correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by loky1109 View Post
    I see. Well, I have some idea... But highly likely I'll need more time. Don't know right now.

    One more question.
    Is this calculator correct?
    https://www.d20srd.org/extras/d20encountercalculator/
    Played around with it for a moment, seems correct to me.

    I'm not saying "the rules are according to the calculator". If you've found some glitch where two CR 511 monsters are in EL of 1, that's funny and all but it isn't the rule here. In other words, DMG takes precedence in any case of clash with the SRD calculator.

    As long as you're not trying to abuse it, you can use the calculator for ease of calculation - as I said, it seems right to me.

    Also, make sure to keep in mind that as per the round's limitations, you can only use two creatures (no more, no less) and their EL must always be higher than the CR of each of them.
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    So combination of one 20 CR + one 15 CR isn't legit, is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by loky1109 View Post
    So combination of one 20 CR + one 15 CR isn't legit, is it?
    Correct. If you've reached 20 CR, you've done something wrong.
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    Correct. If you've reached 20 CR, you've done something wrong.
    It becomes more tricky...
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    My work schedule and duties changed recently, so I doubt I'll get my MM entry in. May concentrate on this instead. I have a definite idea in mind.

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    To clarify a point, after a question from a chef:

    The "base" CRs of your lovers don't have to be close. If one of your villains starts as a CR 18 creature, you can still pair them with a villain that'd need class levels to reach a CR that'd increase the EL to 19. For example, a human. You simply can't feature that human as a solo villain when they're level 1, 5, 10, etc - meaning, your lovers would be first encountered at EL 19. The fact that one of them accumulated a lot of class levels before first meeting the party is irrelevant.
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    Only a few days left to the original deadline.

    I know the forums have been packed with competitions lately, and that this round takes a lot of investment. Am I correct in assuming that we have folks looking to join in, but are in need of more time?
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    I’m also working on a build for this competition. I can probably get it in by the 25th, but I wouldn’t mind an extension.

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    New deadline: June 5th.
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    I got a silly idea but I don't think I'll manage to settle acceptable fluff in due time ( more like, never, fluff and me don't see eye to eye), so maybe I'll rush in a stubby stub, maybe I'll just post the stub after-reveal it afterward. It tickles my "that's neat" bone

    Anyhow! I actually got a question for the chair I never thought of asking before, since I have selective blindness when it comes to LA : how do races that have LA compute for the CR , if they don't have a CR listed in any statblock? does racial LA have a 1-to-1 relationship to CR if it's not otherwise listed in a statblock? I recall there isn't any actual rule that establish any kind of relationship between LA and CR, but I might be misremembering

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciopo View Post
    Anyhow! I actually got a question for the chair I never thought of asking before, since I have selective blindness when it comes to LA : how do races that have LA compute for the CR , if they don't have a CR listed in any statblock? does racial LA have a 1-to-1 relationship to CR if it's not otherwise listed in a statblock? I recall there isn't any actual rule that establish any kind of relationship between LA and CR, but I might be misremembering
    I ran into that issue before my time as a chair. I guess I'm going to need to make a ruling on that. Does anyone know of there is such a rule already in existence, so I don't have to try and make sense of it by myself?
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    I think I'm going to go strict here, unfortunately. If a race with LA over 0 doesn't have a listed CR, they're not usable in the villainous competition. Might change in the future, but them's the rules for now.

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    I’m making good progress. I have my idea and am mostly working on the build tables and a little bit of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H_H_F_F View Post
    I ran into that issue before my time as a chair. I guess I'm going to need to make a ruling on that. Does anyone know of there is such a rule already in existence, so I don't have to try and make sense of it by myself?
    I looked in 3.0 MM. There are all humanoids as 1 HD humanoid, not as Warrior 1. Most have CR 1/2, Drow, Derro, Duergar, Svirfneblin have 1. Aasimars and Tieflings have 1/2, Kobold - 1/6. I don't see any rule here.


    I think I'm going to go strict here, unfortunately. If a race with LA over 0 doesn't have a listed CR, they're not usable in the villainous competition. Might change in the future, but them's the rules for now.
    How about races with Warrior 1 stats and listed CR? What CR will have Elf Fighter 1 (Warrior 1 has 1/2)? Drow Fighter 1 (Warrior 1 has 1)?

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