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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    Simulation changed, so let me think about it first, okay?

    Reasons to town read you:
    Illven told us you were debating going against the plan n1. As a wolf, you would have known you couldn't use this to kill Blades without getting very suspicious. Therefore, thinking about WIFOM seems a bit townie for me.

    Also, you pushing semi-hard against Snow, while easier targets were available, seems fine as well (and you even had the chance to take my offer before, putting some blame on me).

    Kraken, why do you want Bat alive?
    You know what, I don't really know anything at this point. As I and many others have pointed out, Bat could have flipped on Xihirli for towncred, but it just feels wrong to lynch someone who actively exposed a wolf instead of others just because of vaguely towny behaviour?

    I don't think Bat is above suspicion, but he is less suspicious to me than Caedorus, Rogue Alchemist and Snowblaze. I think the wolf is in there. I think testing Bat here is the wrong play.

    I am happy enough to wagon any of those three, really, though my preference there would not be Snow.

    Of course maybe I'm wrong and Bat is the wolf, in which case I imagine I'll feel a little silly in about two hours.
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    I've actually taken the time to hack the votes into my counter.

    This is the history
    Rogan votes Caedorus (1)
    Snowblaze votes Caedorus (2)
    bladescape votes Snowblaze (1)
    Snowblaze unvotes Caedorus (1)
    Snowblaze votes Batcathat (1)
    Caedorus votes Rogue Alchemist (1)
    Batcathat votes Snowblaze (2)
    Rogue Alchemist votes Batcathat (2)
    bladescape votes Batcathat (3) unvotes Snowblaze (1)
    Caedorus votes Batcathat (4) unvotes Rogue Alchemist (0)
    Let'sGetKraken votes Rogue Alchemist (1)
    Batcathat votes Rogue Alchemist (2) unvotes Snowblaze (0)


    resulting in this count:
    Caedorus: 1 (Rogan)
    Batcathat: 4 (Caedorus, Rogue Alchemist, Snowblaze, bladescape)
    Rogue Alchemist: 2 (Batcathat, Let'sGetKraken)

    So I can change to Rouge Alchemist without immediately changing a thing, but now Blades has a chance to change his mind.

    Since Bat voted Snow while she already had a vote from Blades, this wagon wasn't as difficult as I had remembered, so no town points. What is more, Snow already was on Bat, so he might feel better about removing her instead of someone lower in the POE.


    Taking a look at the wagon itself... I think, Snow is the only one to actually present arguments. Blades had cast a spell and Cae and Rouge were nodding along. That's not helpful...
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    Can I use my prediction of the half an hour being used to set up Factional chats as proof I am the Seer?
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    only IRL, not as in game proof, as we all know that recruitment threads don't count for making IG decisions


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    I've actually taken the time to hack the votes into my counter.

    This is the history
    Rogan votes Caedorus (1)
    Snowblaze votes Caedorus (2)
    bladescape votes Snowblaze (1)
    Snowblaze unvotes Caedorus (1)
    Snowblaze votes Batcathat (1)
    Caedorus votes Rogue Alchemist (1)
    Batcathat votes Snowblaze (2)
    Rogue Alchemist votes Batcathat (2)
    bladescape votes Batcathat (3) unvotes Snowblaze (1)
    Caedorus votes Batcathat (4) unvotes Rogue Alchemist (0)
    Let'sGetKraken votes Rogue Alchemist (1)
    Batcathat votes Rogue Alchemist (2) unvotes Snowblaze (0)


    resulting in this count:
    Caedorus: 1 (Rogan)
    Batcathat: 4 (Caedorus, Rogue Alchemist, Snowblaze, bladescape)
    Rogue Alchemist: 2 (Batcathat, Let'sGetKraken)

    So I can change to Rouge Alchemist without immediately changing a thing, but now Blades has a chance to change his mind.

    Since Bat voted Snow while she already had a vote from Blades, this wagon wasn't as difficult as I had remembered, so no town points. What is more, Snow already was on Bat, so he might feel better about removing her instead of someone lower in the POE.


    Taking a look at the wagon itself... I think, Snow is the only one to actually present arguments. Blades had cast a spell and Cae and Rouge were nodding along. That's not helpful...
    If Bat is still hovering around I am good to vote Caedorus instead. Bat?

    It is genuinely refreshing that no one can be paired here. Stops the absolutely rampant paranoia.
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    Still checking here, but not actively doing things.
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    All the discussion of how weird the half-hour start is seems weirdly prescient, in retrospect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    Can I use my prediction of the half an hour being used to set up Factional chats as proof I am the Seer?
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    only IRL, not as in game proof, as we all know that recruitment threads don't count for making IG decisions


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    Let'sGetKraken

    For podracing reasons.
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    Rogue Alchemist: 3 (Batcathat, Let'sGetKraken, Rogan)
    Batcathat: 3 (Caedorus, Rogue Alchemist, Snowblaze)
    Let'sGetKraken: 1 (bladescape)

    But Bat got to 3 first, so Bat will be chopped, barring other vote movements.
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    All the discussion of how weird the half-hour start is seems weirdly prescient, in retrospect.
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    Can I use my prediction of the half an hour being used to set up Factional chats as proof I am the Seer?
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    only IRL, not as in game proof, as we all know that recruitment threads don't count for making IG decisions


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    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape View Post
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    For podracing reasons.
    I will point out here that all wolf!me had to do here was go with the flow, since it's not like there was a partner to defend. Actively pushing back this hard against the BCH wagon would be a terrible play, WIFOM excepted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Let'sGetKraken View Post
    I will point out here that all wolf!me had to do here was go with the flow, since it's not like there was a partner to defend. Actively pushing back this hard against the BCH wagon would be a terrible play, WIFOM excepted.
    I just wanted to rand the daykill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bladescape View Post
    I just wanted to rand the daykill.
    Which is impossible, cause we don't do random kills here. (But good job feeding my paranoia)
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    All the discussion of how weird the half-hour start is seems weirdly prescient, in retrospect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    Can I use my prediction of the half an hour being used to set up Factional chats as proof I am the Seer?
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    only IRL, not as in game proof, as we all know that recruitment threads don't count for making IG decisions


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    I wasn't sure how today's conversation was going to end. Everyone was split on their decision, believing that everyone left seemed to be with us but knowing that wasn't the case. But when it came down to it, one group was faster, pushing who they suspected out of the Colony.

    And after going through their belongings. It seems we were right. We've double checked with everyone remaining, but from what we gathered there were only three. So he was the last. We're finally safe.

    As safe as we can be in a world filled with zombies.


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    Batcathat was killed. He was a Werewolf.

    His secret objective was Explorer: Visit 3 separate locations

    The game has ended! Winners are...

    1. Let'sGetKracken
    2. AvatarVecna
    3. bladescape
    4. Snowblaze
    5. JeenLeen
    6. Persolus
    7. Illven
    8. Rogue Alchemist
    9. Book Wombat
    10. Caedorus
    11. Rogan


    Everyone completed their Secret Objective (or died)!

    Congrats Town and sorry Wolves. While I think this setup was an improvement over the last one, it was still very townsided (I've talked a bit about this in dead chat) and I think it's time to retire this setup for a long while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaoimhinTheCape View Post
    Batcathat was killed. He was a Werewolf.
    Oh well, I didn't exactly call this, but I'm not terribly surprised either.

    Well played, Bat. But obviously not well enough.

    Snow, congratulations. You got the right wolf.

    I had fun playing this game and would like to take the chance to say "Thank you for hosting!"
    Cao, don't worry too much about the balance. I think, things could have turned out very different if we hadn't got a wolf night 1. In the midgame, the sabotage could have been a powerful tool for the wolves (like, sabotage the hospital, kill the seer; it does narrow down the number of suspects, but there will still be another wolf left who gains some breathing room)
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    All the discussion of how weird the half-hour start is seems weirdly prescient, in retrospect.
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    Can I use my prediction of the half an hour being used to set up Factional chats as proof I am the Seer?
    Quote Originally Posted by rogue_alchemist View Post
    only IRL, not as in game proof, as we all know that recruitment threads don't count for making IG decisions


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    I can't work out what I'm more surprised about: that I was right or that people listened to me in the end. (I was terrified both of being wrong and of dying and then having to watch as you all kept clearing BCH and killing my townreads.)

    Still, good game everyone, I enjoyed the part I was actually paying attention for!

    And yes, agreed, this setup was still probably townsided. Maybe not to a completely gamebreaking level, but to the level that wolves would have needed an awful lot of luck to have a realistic chance of winning.

    Might have more thoughts on balance in a bit.
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    As always, thanks for the game everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by book wombat View Post
    as always, thanks for the game everyone!
    aaah its nash aaah

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    aaah its nash aaah
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    W/W games lynched d1: 3
    W/W games played (excludes spectating) total: 5
    W/W games won: 3
    W/W games lost: 2
    W/W games narrated: 0
    W/W games spectated: 2
    W/W games as wolf: 1
    W/W games as Town: 4
    W/W games as Neutral: 0
    W/W games as Other: 0

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