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    Default Re: Dead of Winter Mafia 2

    According to this, bladescape should go to school.

    Blades, do you agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caedorus View Post
    If the grocery store gets a bane, don't protect who? Can you rephrase with less "them"
    Sure. According to the roll done:

    Blades goes to school, selecting the target on his own.
    Persons at hospital bane Blades.
    Persons at the Store don't bane Blades if they get this option (he is already protected), but they scry him (if they get this option). If they get a kill, they probably better holster.
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    All the discussion of how weird the half-hour start is seems weirdly prescient, in retrospect.
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    If I may play devil's advocate, one issue with the plan is that it means the wolves have a 75 percent chance of taking the school if they go for it. On the other hand, if they do we should have a decent chance of catching them by claiming our locations afterwards. So it might be better for town than just pure chaos?

    As for blade in particular... he wouldn't be my first choice, but he wouldn't be my last either.

    I guess what I'm saying is that I'm alright with the plan if the rest of you are. As with the choice of who to vote, "least bad" might be the best we've got.

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    By the way, do we know whether we're allowed to talk in the thread at night or just in our locations?

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    I will move my vote off of you on one condition.

    Anyone else who votes ti today is a wolf.
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    I like this plan. I think that picking someone for the school is a good idea, but picking everyone's locations in an organized manner otherwise is a bit against the spirit of the game.

    So, to reiterate - town stays away from the School.

    Oh and it goes without saying that we pick someone different to use the school each time.
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    Plus, this time around anyone, not just a wolf, could have reasons to go against the plan because of secret wincons.
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    Risk: wolf gets into Hospital, Sabotages it, and wolves NK the seer.

    Solution?
    I'm gonna aim for Gas Station.
    If anyone there wants to watch the School, they're a lying wolf trying to Sabotage it. I out them.
    I/we Watch the Hospital, preventing Sabotage from those within it.
    If the seer dies (because Hospital was still Sabotaged), we know a wolf is one of the people at the Gas Station with me.

    To make this work, if Grocery Store gets fuel, they should not Watch the Hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batcathat View Post
    By the way, do we know whether we're allowed to talk in the thread at night or just in our locations?
    Yes, we know.
    No, we are not.

    But we can migrate this later by creating group chats using the police station.
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    OH--and I got a clarification from Cao.
    I do have to succeed at my secret win con to win the game.

    He also modified it slightly. I think it's now better for Town over all, but I want to think through it before I say anything explicit.
    I'm still willing to go to the Gas Station, and I have put that in as my first choice.
    Town is more likely to kill me than wolves, so I have an incentive not to screw y'all over. I will do as I posted above to help protect the seer via Watching the Hospital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeenLeen View Post
    Risk: wolf gets into Hospital, Sabotages it, and wolves NK the seer.

    Solution?
    I'm gonna aim for Gas Station.
    If anyone there wants to watch the School, they're a lying wolf trying to Sabotage it. I out them.
    I/we Watch the Hospital, preventing Sabotage from those within it.
    If the seer dies (because Hospital was still Sabotaged), we know a wolf is one of the people at the Gas Station with me.

    To make this work, if Grocery Store gets fuel, they should not Watch the Hospital.
    I can't see a flaw with this plan, so from my point of view, go for it.
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    Can I use my prediction of the half an hour being used to set up Factional chats as proof I am the Seer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    I can't see a flaw with this plan, so from my point of view, go for it.
    Agreed. The only potential flaw with it that I can see is that it relies on someone we know isn't town and has some sort of hidden agenda, but I think it might be worth the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeenLeen View Post
    OH--and I got a clarification from Cao.
    I do have to succeed at my secret win con to win the game.

    He also modified it slightly. I think it's now better for Town over all, but I want to think through it before I say anything explicit.
    I'm still willing to go to the Gas Station, and I have put that in as my first choice.
    Town is more likely to kill me than wolves, so I have an incentive not to screw y'all over. I will do as I posted above to help protect the seer via Watching the Hospital.
    Oh hell nah
    Can I get a JeenLeen wagon over here?

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    Not unless someone is willing to counterclaim the neutral role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caedorus View Post
    Oh hell nah
    Can I get a JeenLeen wagon over here?

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    Like, for real, "dont't lynch me, ima win tomorrow" "here's my role" "I'm not going to win tomorrow" "let me go scry"
    He doesn't want to scry. He wants to go to the gas station, which will allow him to protect a place from sabotage. Which is a plus for town, as far as I can tell.
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    All the discussion of how weird the half-hour start is seems weirdly prescient, in retrospect.
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    Can I use my prediction of the half an hour being used to set up Factional chats as proof I am the Seer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Batcathat View Post
    Agreed. The only potential flaw with it that I can see is that it relies on someone we know isn't town and has some sort of hidden agenda, but I think it might be worth the risk.
    Lol.

    But also Jeen does tend to townside as neutral iirc so we're probably fine. I hope.

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    Oh hell nah
    Can I get a JeenLeen wagon over here?

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    Like, for real, "dont't lynch me, ima win tomorrow" "here's my role" "I'm not going to win tomorrow" "let me go scry"
    Gas station isn't scry, gas station is watch-a-location.

    Also my policy of "trust all neutral claims not made under pressure" hasn't failed me yet so I'm not going to abandon it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caedorus View Post
    Oh hell nah
    Can I get a JeenLeen wagon over here?

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    Like, for real, "dont't lynch me, ima win tomorrow" "here's my role" "I'm not going to win tomorrow" "let me go scry"
    I never said I would win tomorrow.
    I theoretically can, but it's extremely unlikely. In all practical terms, the likelihood of me winning is near zero. I need to play ball with Town; I need to give vigs a reason to not kill me.

    (I don't fear the wolves, since killing me is letting a townie live, effectively wasting their NK.)

    Self-defense on Persolus.

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    Do we have a vote count going? Hard to do on mobile


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    Quote Originally Posted by AvatarVecna View Post
    Do we have a vote count going? Hard to do on mobile
    I probably don't need to do self-defense on persolus, but not risking it.
    Vote count appreciated if someone has time to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogan View Post
    Your vote results in the following count:
    Persolus: 3 (Rogan, Xihirli, bladescape)
    JeenLeen: 1 (Book Wombat)
    Rogue Alchemist: 3 (Batcathat, Persolus, Rogue Alchemist)
    Caedorus: 2 (Illven, Lady Serpentine)
    Xihirli: 2 (JeenLeen, Snowblaze)
    Illven: 1 (Caedorus)
    AvatarVecna: 1 (Let'sGetKracken)
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    Oh hell nah
    Can I get a JeenLeen wagon over here?
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    Self-defense on Persolus.
    So unless I've messed up, that's the new count:
    Persolus: 4 (JeenLeen, Rogan, Xihirli, bladescape)
    JeenLeen: 1 (Caedorus)
    Rogue Alchemist: 3 (Batcathat, Persolus, Rogue Alchemist)
    Caedorus: 2 (Illven, Lady Serpentine)
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    I'm on mobile so where do I need to default to location wise?
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    I prefer Persolus to other wagons I suppose. Has to die D1 sometime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Illven View Post
    I'm on mobile so where do I need to default to location wise?
    Feel free to go whenever you think you need to be, except the school. If you don't send in anything, you will default to the colony, with feels like a less useful location.
    Gas station probably is also less important, since we have Jeen there.

    I would suggest the hospital or the store, but again, you are free to make your own decisions.
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    Alright, I should be off to bed soon-ish (though it wouldn't be the first time I've failed to do so ). Persolus seems like a decent choice, but since my vote won't be needed there and there might be good to have other wagons in case of any last minute changes, I'll leave my vote where it is.

    So I'm assuming we're going with the plan? In any case, I'll be avoiding the school.

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    As much as I distrust Caedorus, if he's been honest about that his win-con is to have 0 votes on himself at EOD, I recommend those voting him vote elsewhere.
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    Likewise Hospital, to make sure they are honest in baning blade.

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    Giving me the power of school?

    Sure. I'll take it.
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    Jeen has a fair point as regards Caedorus, so I'll switch to Persolus for reasons of my own wincon.

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    I'll then vote for Lady Serpentine
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    Vote Count:
    Persolus: 6 (AvatarVecna, JeenLeen, Lady Serpentine, Rogan, Xihirli, bladescape)
    Rogue Alchemist: 3 (Batcathat, Persolus, Rogue Alchemist)
    Lady Serpentine: 1 (Illven)
    Xihirli: 1 (Snowblaze)
    JeenLeen: 1 (Caedorus)
    AvatarVecna: 1 (Let'sGetKracken)

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    Rogan votes bladescape (1)
    Book Wombat votes JeenLeen (1)
    Batcathat votes Book Wombat (1)
    bladescape votes bladescape (2)
    Illven votes Caedorus (1)
    JeenLeen votes bladescape (3)
    Xihirli votes Sleep (1)
    Snowblaze votes Xihirli (1)
    Persolus votes Rogue Alchemist (1)
    Xihirli votes bladescape (4) unvotes Sleep (0)
    Caedorus votes Xihirli (2)
    Xihirli unvotes bladescape (3)
    Xihirli votes AvatarVecna (1)
    Lady Serpentine votes Caedorus (2)
    JeenLeen votes Xihirli (3) unvotes bladescape (2)
    JeenLeen votes bladescape (3) unvotes Xihirli (2)
    Caedorus votes Illven (1) unvotes Xihirli (1)
    Batcathat votes JeenLeen (2) unvotes Book Wombat (0)
    Rogan votes Rogue Alchemist (2) unvotes bladescape (2)
    Let'sGetKracken votes AvatarVecna (2)
    JeenLeen votes Xihirli (2) unvotes bladescape (1)
    bladescape votes Persolus (1) unvotes bladescape (0)
    Rogan votes Persolus (2) unvotes Rogue Alchemist (1)
    Xihirli votes Persolus (3) unvotes AvatarVecna (1)
    Rogue Alchemist votes Rogue Alchemist (2)
    Batcathat votes Rogue Alchemist (3) unvotes JeenLeen (1)
    Book Wombat unvotes JeenLeen (0)
    Caedorus votes JeenLeen (1) unvotes Illven (0)
    JeenLeen votes Persolus (4) unvotes Xihirli (1)
    AvatarVecna votes Persolus (5)
    Lady Serpentine votes Persolus (6) unvotes Caedorus (1)
    Illven votes Lady Serpentine (1) unvotes Caedorus (0)


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    Without my secret? Bit of a wash with the numbers we have, but maybe RA to see if that shakes up the wagons and how? Though it's also rather late for that.

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    Now to find out how right I am.
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    I'm thankful we have our discussions and votes. It reminds me of the time before our lives were focused on making it through the day. When we were people, not survivors. There was a lot of back and forth today and that should mean we're making better decisions, right? That when we come together we can learn more, that our more informed outlook will help us find anyone who means us ill.

    But I don't think we found that today. We forced someone out of our colony today. Persolus was thrown outside of the gates, by what passed for a "consensus". But I was one of the people who checked his room afterward. I couldn't find any evidence that he was working against us. If anything, he seemed interested in getting to know everyone better, with notes about how he planned to stay at the colony and work with some of us here.

    I hope we will make better decisions in the future. But it's harder every day to hold on to hope.

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    His secret objective was Socialite: Vote with 2 different NPCs by going to the colony.


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