Baldur's Gate 3- What does fried Nautiloid taste like?

[Dragonus45]

... in what world is Wyll and Gale unpleasant to be around until you get to know them? Maybe we've just got different tolerances for some of this stuff.

Wyll is sort of the one breath of fresh air and I actually didn't find Gale until last night since I didn't do early access and am playing relatively blind I walked straight past him. I find him to be a bit wizard smug but that's not the worst.

I can understand Gale being annoying if you don't take his eloquence at more or less face value, since it kind of sounds like he's mocking you.

I get that he isn't trying to be smug but that sort of word a day calendar thing even it face value can be annoying. I still like him way more then just about anyone else so far though, sadly my party composition has no space for him since I'm already a wizard myself.

I am guessing that you have missed Wyl, Gale and Karlach then? They are very nice to hang around.

Didn't even know Karlach was gonna be choice for an ally? Saw gnolls that direction and wanted a couple more levels before I went that direction north.

[LaZodiac]

Wyll is sort of the one breath of fresh air and I actually didn't find Gale until last night since I didn't do early access and am playing relatively blind I walked straight past him. I find him to be a bit wizard smug but that's not the worst.

This is hilarious because I DID play EA... and completely missed him when I played. Funny how that works.

[Rynjin]

I almost killed Laezeal or how she is called, because she is a huge [female dog]. But I attacked her captors instead. This is the first very wonky decision where you can just go "murder person I knew for 10 minutes but she saved my ass" or "murder some randos who are very hostile".

This feels like the choice in the Skyrim tutorial. Sure both factions have their reasons but who in their RIGHT mind goes with the choice that kills the person that either worked for their active death or the choice that did not just save you from a giant teleporting flying molusk?

...Dunno? Why did you pick the choice to attack them instead of one of the 4 other options?

[Psyren]

Even if I didn't like Lae'zel - which to be clear, so far I do - I saved her on entirely pragmatic grounds; her people have a means of removing gestating tadpoles and she was willing to share it. Also the whole "helping me get out of a crashing nautiloid in one piece" thing.

The endless cattiness between her and Shadowheart is pretty entertaining too.

[LaZodiac]

Even if I didn't like Lae'zel - which to be clear, so far I do - I saved her on entirely pragmatic grounds; her people have a means of removing gestating tadpoles and she was willing to share it. Also the whole "helping me get out of a crashing nautiloid in one piece" thing.

The endless cattiness between her and Shadowheart is pretty entertaining too.

Same, though don't mind me when I shudder every time she says "purified" and "purification". I know those are valid words for ridding oneself of a parasite, but the Gith seem militaristic and incapable of bending in any capacity- I don't think her friends are going to be too gentle, in the nicest possible end point of this.

[Spore]

I can understand Gale being annoying if you don't take his eloquence at more or less face value, since it kind of sounds like he's mocking you.

My character is an idiot half-orc barbarian who solves problems with violence and hostility. I say any ridicule is well intended. And in a small amount of idiot player, I started roleplaying as my character not realizing a hat without armor value counts as "armor" for unarmored protection dumping my AC to 12 from 15.

[Arkhios]

I'd guess similar to fried octopus does. Nautiloid is technically a massive squid, after all. Maybe a hint of ozon might be involved in the flavor.

[Psyren]

I dealt with the first act and now that Gith wants to Yank Me. Help

[Errorname]

I really like how Gale has been written so far. Like he sucks, but he sucks in a pretty believable way. He's also a good counterpart to the more evil companions, cause Gale isn't like a monstrously bad dude or anything he's just self-absorbed and manipulative.

[Arkhios]

I really like how Gale has been written so far. Like he sucks, but he sucks in a pretty believable way. He's also a good counterpart to the more evil companions, cause Gale isn't like a monstrously bad dude or anything he's just self-absorbed and manipulative.

Uh, I don't follow? How Gale "sucks" any more than a wizard you could make yourself? His ability scores are quite standard for a wizard. If you're referring to that curse of his, just let him consume all items you don't wish to use (for example I gave him the obviously malevolent but incredibly powerful magic items, like the book found from the cellar, and the staff from the hag, for example).

[Zombimode]

I dealt with the first act and now that Gith wants to Yank Me. Help

That was a bit surprising to me as well. But she actually managed to seduce me. When all the companions started to get into my characters pants I was like "nah, we know each other for two days, I'm not that kind of elf".
But Laezel managed to find the perfect words. It was a perfect fit to what had happened and to the character that I've now decided to play.

[Rising Phoenix]

I just made it to act 3...

All I am going to say is that I did not see that coming...And suddenly I don't know were my morals are... daaaaamn.

[LCP]

Uh, I don't follow? How Gale "sucks" any more than a wizard you could make yourself? His ability scores are quite standard for a wizard. If you're referring to that curse of his, just let him consume all items you don't wish to use (for example I gave him the obviously malevolent but incredibly powerful magic items, like the book found from the cellar, and the staff from the hag, for example).

His personality. He's convinced he's god's gift to the world and doesn't have the remotest self-awareness about it. The last conversation I had with him, he thought I might be interested in a lengthy poetic description of how cool his cat was, then took offense when I asked if he was really talking about a cat.

When he told me his backstory all I could think of was

[Dragonus45]

I have stumbled on the thing last night that is really going to drive me up the wall.

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WTF is Minthara as a paladin and how has she not fallen yet! Is she listed as vengeance only because they haven't instituted the evil oaths like Oath breaker or Conquest yet?

[Keltest]

I have stumbled on the thing last night that is really going to drive me up the wall.

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WTF is Minthara as a paladin and how has she not fallen yet! Is she listed as vengeance only because they haven't instituted the evil oaths like Oath breaker or Conquest yet?

Oathbreaker is actually in the game, just not as a choice on character creation. You have to actually break your oath to become an oathbreaker.

[LaZodiac]

I have stumbled on the thing last night that is really going to drive me up the wall.

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WTF is Minthara as a paladin and how has she not fallen yet! Is she listed as vengeance only because they haven't instituted the evil oaths like Oath breaker or Conquest yet?

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Oath Breaker is in game, actually, and apparently it's different between each subclass!

Admittedly I haven't met the character yet but I'm aware she's an antagonist who can be a party member if you're evil? Her being an oath of vengeance paladin would probably explain that pretty neatly- and remember, paladins don't have to be GOOD anymore. Lolth can have paladins.

[Dragonus45]

Oathbreaker is actually in the game, just not as a choice on character creation. You have to actually break your oath to become an oathbreaker.

Oh nifty, that makes the thing I am complaining about make even less sense now.

[Dienekes]

Oh nifty, that makes the thing I am complaining about make even less sense now.

Don't know the character but what part of her oath has she broken?

[Dragonus45]

Don't know the character but what part of her oath has she broken?

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She is the commander of the goblin forces attacking the peaceful druid grove and planning to slaughter a large number of fleeing innocent teifling refugees down to the children.

[Rynjin]

That would be large spoilers.

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She is the commander of the goblin forces attacking the peaceful druid grove and planning to slaughter a large number of fleeing innocent teifling refugees down to the children.

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What about those things is incompatible with worship of Lolth or the concept of Vengeance? No, the reason I think it's weird she's not an Oathbreaker is because she presumably abandoned Lolth for "The Absolute".

[Arkhios]

His personality. He's convinced he's god's gift to the world and doesn't have the remotest self-awareness about it. The last conversation I had with him, he thought I might be interested in a lengthy poetic description of how cool his cat was, then took offense when I asked if he was really talking about a cat.

When he told me his backstory all I could think of was

Ah, right. Classic example of self-obsessed megalomaniac. So, a classic wizard, with a pinch of devotion to a god. Still wouldn't say he sucks. But I guess we can disagree on that account.

[LCP]

I wouldn't say 'megalomaniac' at all. He's not power-hungry or evil, he's just very convinced that he's a Cool Guy and can't imagine you wouldn't think he's cool too.

A megalomaniac wizard I would find more fun to have around as a companion. Or what I would think of as a classic wizard which would be an old man thoughtfully stroking his long beard, offering cryptic advice and selling illegal fireworks to hobbits. But I agree it's personal taste!

[Dragonus45]

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What about those things is incompatible with worship of Lolth or the concept of Vengeance? No, the reason I think it's weird she's not an Oathbreaker is because she presumably abandoned Lolth for "The Absolute".

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Vengeance has more wiggle room then the other oaths but it still frames itself as fighting evil just with permission to be edgy about it, Which I'm already not a fan of for paladins, but the idea it could cover for a paladin to just about anything she does in this story and not fall so hard she cracks the roof of the underdark is gross.

[Psyren]

Uh, I don't follow? How Gale "sucks" any more than a wizard you could make yourself? His ability scores are quite standard for a wizard. If you're referring to that curse of his, just let him consume all items you don't wish to use (for example I gave him the obviously malevolent but incredibly powerful magic items, like the book found from the cellar, and the staff from the hag, for example).

I was worried about Gale's curse due to my 5e mindset but I'm now drowning in useless magic items after the goblin fort so he should be fat and happy.

[Tyndmyr]

... in what world is Wyll and Gale unpleasant to be around until you get to know them? Maybe we've just got different tolerances for some of this stuff.

I've only just started, but Gale just will. not. shut. up. I can totally see hating him, as I sort of do as well.

The game overall is decent, at least thus far. I do prefer 3.5 over 5e generally, and would have preferred it especially for a computer game, as having all the situational modifiers kept track of for you is one of the best possible reasons to play a computerized version of 3.5. But, yknow, 5e ain't terrible either. Probably my second favorite choice.

[Errorname]

Uh, I don't follow? How Gale "sucks" any more than a wizard you could make yourself? His ability scores are quite standard for a wizard. If you're referring to that curse of his, just let him consume all items you don't wish to use (for example I gave him the obviously malevolent but incredibly powerful magic items, like the book found from the cellar, and the staff from the hag, for example).

He's a perfectly fine wizard he just kind of sucks as a person.

[Anonymouswizard]

My girlfriend's agreed to buy me a copy as a late birthday present, which means I won't be able to play it for a couple of days to a week or so but looking forward to it.

Already considering my PC for my first run, I'm wondering if I go for my Barbarian fantasy (naked, tattoos/body paint, massive sword...) or if I take a spellcaster like a Bard or Sorcerer. Looking through the Origin companions it seems like Bard/Sorcerer might go best with the ones I want to use.

Also a question, is this like previous Larian games where I'm only going to feel like it's reasonably balanced on easy?

[Dienekes]

My girlfriend's agreed to buy me a copy as a late birthday present, which means I won't be able to play it for a couple of days to a week or so but looking forward to it.

Already considering my PC for my first run, I'm wondering if I go for my Barbarian fantasy (naked, tattoos/body paint, massive sword...) or if I take a spellcaster like a Bard or Sorcerer. Looking through the Origin companions it seems like Bard/Sorcerer might go best with the ones I want to use.

Also a question, is this like previous Larian games where I'm only going to feel like it's reasonably balanced on easy?

I don't know how to answer what you feel is reasonably balanced. All I can say is I'm playing normal and haven't lost a fight yet. But I'm also not very far, and if I remember DOS2 at all, the level/difficulty balancing didn't really get weird until the last chapter.

I will say that since the leader in a conversation makes the rolls, I went Paladin so that I have a reason to put points in Charisma and I think that was a good choice for me. So Bard/Sorc is not a bad idea.

On the other hand, the weapon abilities, jump, and shove bonus actions make playing martials far more fun and dynamic than they are in the actual 5e game. So, Barbarian is not a bad choice.

[Kish]

I have stumbled on the thing last night that is really going to drive me up the wall.

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WTF is Minthara as a paladin and how has she not fallen yet! Is she listed as vengeance only because they haven't instituted the evil oaths like Oath breaker or Conquest yet?

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What's this "fallen" business? She's your basic evil paladin, like a third of all paladins since 4ed came out.

[Anonymouswizard]

I don't know how to answer what you feel is reasonably balanced. All I can say is I'm playing normal and haven't lost a fight yet. But I'm also not very far, and if I remember DOS2 at all, the level/difficulty balancing didn't really get weird until the last chapter.

I will say that since the leader in a conversation makes the rolls, I went Paladin so that I have a reason to put points in Charisma and I think that was a good choice for me. So Bard/Sorc is not a bad idea.

On the other hand, the weapon abilities, jump, and shove bonus actions make playing martials far more fun and dynamic than they are in the actual 5e game. So, Barbarian is not a bad choice.

Basically I remember D:OS 1 and 2 basically requiring you to complete all the sidequests to have a chance at the next act, as well as throwing some difficult encounters at you with little to no telegraphing.

As to classes, the reason I'm not immediately jumping on the Barbarian is because I know there's a recruitable Barbarian in the game (because I always look up the possible party members before starting an RPG). Paladin is another idea but I've looked over the companions and decided I'm not really interested in using Gale or Will, so I'd end up a bit short on arcane magic. So I'm planning on a Tiefling Lore Bard or Storm Sorcerer probably with the Dark Urge origin, although I might just go completely custom for my first run.