The Wizard's Tower by Luizeu

[Luizeu]

Night 1/ Stairs 1 has ended.
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Night 1 / Stairs 1 Results

During the stairs, a lot of attention was given to the Lantern Holder,
everybody wanted to see a magical item up close.

When everybody was distracted, a low chanting from somewhere was heard and three glowing darts of magical force were hurdled across the room.
At the last second, someone was pushed and the spell hit the wall nearby.

Nobody was killed

Within a few hours, a rumor started to spread across the stairs. Everybody heard it, but nobody discovered who started it:
It was something like this:

Batcathat, flat_footed, JeenLeen, AvatarVecna, Olive_Sophia contains at least one wolf. Illven, Snowblaze, Bladescape, Benoojian, MayanStar contains no wolves. Oh dearie me, it seems I've gone and switched some names around, but I can't quite remember which! Perhaps some of you can use these tangled hints to tease out the truth?

The start of the day post comes shortly

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Level 2: The laboratory

The laboratory is a large room filled with all sorts of strange and magical devices. There are cauldrons bubbling with potions, alembics filled with distilled liquids, strange machines that hum with power, a skeleton model, and a lot of small gizmos. The walls are lined with shelves of books, scrolls, and other magical objects and the smell is putrid.
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A table covered in alembics and other distillation equipment.
A shelf of books filled with ancient tomes of magic.
A crystal ball that is constantly shifting and changing.
A strange machine that vibrates with power and has no visible controls only a side similar to a black mirror.
A skeleton that is hunched over a worktable, its bones glowing with magic
A large cauldron bubbling with a potion that is emitting a cloud of strange green smoke
A red potion slowly bubbling;
A blue potion cold to the touch;
A bucket filled with an unknown liquid;
A diamond glass of wine
An expensive-looking earring

If anything reacts, I’ll send you a message on your secret chat

Level Mechanic:

1. Defenestrate someone - use bold and red;
2. Choose a new Lantern Holder- use bold and blue; The lantern Holder from the previous level and this level can’t pick an object because they will be too busy making sure the lantern is lit.
3. Choose an object in the laboratory to interact with - use bold and green: First come, first served. You can’t repeat objects. If the selected Lantern Holder grabbed an item before, this item will be available.

Day 2 / Level 2 starts now! It will last for 48 hours

[Benoojian]

AvatarVecna, it's weird for them to be this quiet, gonna poke them with a vote

Meta, as an apology for almost getting you killed

Table, it's got alchemy stuff on it

[Book Wombat]

The shelf of books of course!

[Snowblaze]

Well. This is interesting.

I'll nominate my top townread Illven for lantern-bearer. And I'll claim the blue potion.

Names in the "no wolves" rumour list:
Illven, Snowblaze, bladescape, Benoojian, MayanStar
Names in the "at least one wolf" rumour list:
Batcathat, flat_footed, JeenLeen, AvatarVecna, Olive_Sophia
Names in neither list: Cazero, Metastachydium, Persolus, Let'sGetKraken, Athedia, CaoimhinTheCape

Can anyone see a pattern?

And going to focus on non-mechanical solving while I mull over a few things. What was my "to sort" list again? bladescape, Batcathat, Kraken, Caoimhin, Athedia. That'll do.

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Hm. I don't really love that my joke-vote on Meta ended up being an actual wagon. Feels very much like bandwagoning.

No vote for now.

As an experienced seafarer, I think that I should be entrusted with the lantern. But joking aside, anyone voting for someone other than themselves as lampbearer gets a little bit of suspicion from me, for reasons that should be obvious.

The thing Jeen was talking about clearing Kraken for here. The vote count before he did this was Meta 4/Taffimai 4/several other wagons 3 so we have here Kraken drawing attention to himself by jumping off the counterwagon to a wolf in a way that could be seen as suspicious.

...yeah, that gets town points imo. I still don't think it's locktown levels but certainly good enough to not worry about today.

[Cazero]

I think I'll grab the machine real quick.

The problem with the rumor is the bit about switched names, wich makes it kinda worthless ?

[Batcathat]

Names in the "no wolves" rumour list:
Illven, Snowblaze, bladescape, Benoojian, MayanStar
Names in the "at least one wolf" rumour list:
Batcathat, flat_footed, JeenLeen, AvatarVecna, Olive_Sophia
Names in neither list: Cazero, Metastachydium, Persolus, Let'sGetKraken, Athedia, CaoimhinTheCape

Can anyone see a pattern?

The one thing that has occurred to me so far is that except for AV the names in the "One wolf" list are in alphabetical order, which might indicate that AV is in the wrong list? Though the problem with that (aside from something that might clear five players presumably having a more complicated answer) is that the "No wolf" list isn't anywhere close to alphabetical. I do love things like this, so I'm sure I'll get back to it.

Other than that, I would like to pick the machine. If Netflix has taught me one thing, it's that black mirrors are totally harmless.

No idea who to pick for anything else. Do I dare hope someone voided someone to explain the lack of kill? (Though if that's the case, it might be good to sit on that information for a while, to not kill all discussion and hopefully let the caught wolf implicate others).

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I think I'll grab the machine real quick.

The problem with the rumor is the bit about switched names, wich makes it kinda worthless ?

I didn't know there were ninjas in the tower. I'll take the skeleton then (yes, I'm determined to pick something that seems ominous, hoping that the narration is going for irony).

[Luizeu]

I didn't know there were ninjas in the tower.

You failed your Perception check

16. Olive_Sophia - The village ninja

[Book Wombat]

Names in the "no wolves" rumour list:
Illven, Snowblaze, bladescape, Benoojian, MayanStar
Names in the "at least one wolf" rumour list:
Batcathat, flat_footed, JeenLeen, AvatarVecna, Olive_Sophia
Names in neither list: Cazero, Metastachydium, Persolus, Let'sGetKraken, Athedia, CaoimhinTheCape

Can anyone see a pattern?

What am I, chopped liver?

[Benoojian]

Well. This is interesting.

I'll nominate my top townread Illven for lantern-bearer. And I'll claim the blue potion.

Names in the "no wolves" rumour list:
Illven, Snowblaze, bladescape, Benoojian, MayanStar
Names in the "at least one wolf" rumour list:
Batcathat, flat_footed, JeenLeen, AvatarVecna, Olive_Sophia

The rumour also said that some of the names were switched between the two lists, so the only thing I think we can conclude is that the combined list of 10 contains at least 1 wolf, and that's only if the rumour can be trusted.

[Illven]

On mobile so quick post. But yeah Ben is right. We have ten suspects and no clears if that's correct.

I'll take delicious health potion (red potion)

[Benoojian]

At least 1 wolf and at least 5 non-wolves, which isn't terribly helpful from a list of ten

[Let'sGetKraken]

Since BCH mentioned it, just as a reminder - if you were responsible for diverting the wolf kill last night, absolutely do not claim responsibility for it in any way shape or form. Unless you can also use this power to protect yourself and the power cannot be blocked by any means, it's absolutely throwing if you claim.

[AvatarVecna]

The rumour also said that some of the names were switched between the two lists, so the only thing I think we can conclude is that the combined list of 10 contains at least 1 wolf, and that's only if the rumour can be trusted.

Yeah even if we can trust it (which, why?), kinda hard to puzzle out anything when we don't even know how many names are misplaced. It'd have to be at least two, but other than that basically anything goes. And like, yeah I'm sure if you took ten random players in a game of 18, one of them being wolf is hardly guaranteed but it's not exactly a risky bet either. It's basically saying nothing.

[Batcathat]

You failed your Perception check

To be fair, a ninja who can be caught be a Perception check should be fired.

(A ninja sneakily dressing up as a another player to steal my machine might get promoted though. )

[AvatarVecna]

Earring please

[Benoojian]

Since BCH mentioned it, just as a reminder - if you were responsible for diverting the wolf kill last night, absolutely do not claim responsibility for it in any way shape or form. Unless you can also use this power to protect yourself and the power cannot be blocked by any means, it's absolutely throwing if you claim.

If they're a voider instead of a baner, they just caught a wolf red-handed, and might die before passing on that information, don't make dramatic declarations about every situation when you really mean only the one situation.

Unless you can explain why the shouldn't get a wolf killed if they can?

And the threat to report them for throwing sounds like wolf!intimidation tactics

If you are a baner, don't reveal.

[Snowblaze]

What am I, chopped liver?

Welp, sorry.

On mobile so quick post. But yeah Ben is right. We have ten suspects and no clears if that's correct.

I'll take delicious health potion (red potion)

Make sure to put that in bold and green before someone else claims it!

Since BCH mentioned it, just as a reminder - if you were responsible for diverting the wolf kill last night, absolutely do not claim responsibility for it in any way shape or form. Unless you can also use this power to protect yourself and the power cannot be blocked by any means, it's absolutely throwing if you claim.

Eh. Anyone other than a voider who blocked a kill shouldn't claim, but on the other hand if there is a voider who doesn't know if they're the one responsible for the blocked kill or not...

Re: rumours... yeah, in its current state it's not particularly useful but it means something and there's got to be a way of figuring that out, this isn't a bastard game so I doubt we'd just be given useless or false information. I guess we can expect more rumours at the end of each night phase, and eventually we might be able to piece them together. For now I'm not prepared to suggest we hunt in any particular group.

[Let'sGetKraken]

If they're a voider instead of a baner, they just caught a wolf red-handed, and might die before passing on that information, don't make dramatic declarations about every situation when you really mean only the one situation.

Unless you can explain why the shouldn't get a wolf killed if they can?

And the threat to report them for throwing sounds like wolf!intimidation tactics

If you are a baner, don't reveal.

Three things:

1) where on earth are you getting a threat to report someone? How little faith do you have in your fellow players to think that they would report them for anything other than actual cheating/breaking serious forum rules? I'm actually more than a little offended by this.
2) A voider, from my understanding, blocks someone's actions, but also any actions they would take, right? In which case it's equally likely that they would out themselves to reveal the wolves' target.
3) your logic relies on the person having done it knowing 100% for sure they blocked a wolf kill. If there are two people with powers that could have blocked this, and one of them reveals their identity while erroneously thinking they're a wolf, they have outed themselves and we get a mislynch.

[Benoojian]

Re: rumours... yeah, in its current state it's not particularly useful but it means something and there's got to be a way of figuring that out, this isn't a bastard game so I doubt we'd just be given useless or false information. I guess we can expect more rumours at the end of each night phase, and eventually we might be able to piece them together. For now I'm not prepared to suggest we hunt in any particular group.

And if the rumours are instead a player power, and not from the narrator at all? Does the wolf leave all his fellows off the list, or try to make them look slightly innocent? I think this unlikely, because few players would supply something this convoluted when a smaller list more likely gets traction and misyeets. But not impossible.

[Snowblaze]

Re: 2) there is a jailkeeper role which protects someone from being killed while also preventing them from using an action, and there is also a voider role which does only the latter.

3) is valid, yes, but also Benoojian has a point that we really don't want someone who could have outed a wolf dying before they could reveal that information.

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And if the rumours are instead a player power, and not from the narrator at all? Does the wolf leave all his fellows off the list, or try to make them look slightly innocent? I think this unlikely, because few players would supply something this convoluted when a smaller list more likely gets traction and misyeets. But not impossible.

...you're assuming "player power" immediately implies "wolf power". Why couldn't a townie or neutral have that power?

[Benoojian]

Three things:

1) where on earth are you getting a threat to report someone? How little faith do you have in your fellow players to think that they would report them for anything other than actual cheating/breaking serious forum rules? I'm actually more than a little offended by this.

Sorry knee jerk reaction to the word, in Town of Salem deliberate game throwing is a bannable offense. and yes there are a lot of babies there that will threaten to report playstyles they don't like as throwing whether they are actually bad strategies or not (and terrible automatic moderation that will give you a short ban if enough people report you regardless). I think your wording was a little harsh even if you didn't mean going that far.

[Illven]

red potion

[Snowblaze]

Anyway, back to non-mechanical stuff: Caoimhin gets town points for putting the third vote on Taffimai but I don't think that's conclusively unpairing. Nothing major sticks out from the rest of their posts.

[Benoojian]

...you're assuming "player power" immediately implies "wolf power". Why couldn't a townie or neutral have that power?

A townie wouldn't have given that convoluted an answer unless they were forced to by the specifics of the power, in which case it's basically indistinguishable from a Narrator message. AS a neutral power...I don't even know what that would mean for trustworthiness or what their goal would be.

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I guess the alphabetical error thing could be from a neutral that wants to save AvatarVecna. That feels like a stretch though

[Batcathat]

I guess the alphabetical error thing could be from a neutral that wants to save AvatarVecna. That feels like a stretch though

On that note, I realized that the names are just in the order the appear in the player list (the order we signed up, I guess?) so that's probably nothing. Neither is anything else I've thought to try thus far (on an intellectual level I realize I shouldn't spend much time on this, especially since we don't even know the source and it might end up just distracting from the wolf hunting, but... it's fun. A very frustrating form of fun, but still...)

[Athedia]

I feel off about any of the liquids, this is a wizards tower and those feel like they are the most likely to be magic spells. Especially the ones that don't look obvious potions.

I dunno just weird vibes.

Going to hold off a bit on my guesses, but we know there is someone who can void the wolves sure but probably they have to specify who gets protected. Which means either they got really lucky or it was someone with a lot of experience in how the wolves think. If it was a power they didn't *have* to select the protected player that means it is probably limited use or there is going to be some consequence tonight for them.

[Batcathat]

A few basic thoughts on the clue:

• Since whatever caused the clue could presumably happen regardless of who the wolves are, I don't think the names themselves (number of letters, words they contain, etc) are part of the solution. Though my confidence in this particular thought is pretty low.
• Considering the order is the same as the player list, the order of the names is probably meaningless. Though how they were picked might relate to the list somehow?
• I checked the number of post for each player of the list without finding anything in particular that stood out (Though to be honest, I checked the current numbers, so they would've been slightly different when the clue was posted).

[flat_footed]

Skeleton, father will protect you all from the nasty critter.

Persolus for some early pressure.

flat_footed as confirmed town to me at least.

[Batcathat]

Going to hold off a bit on my guesses, but we know there is someone who can void the wolves sure but probably they have to specify who gets protected. Which means either they got really lucky or it was someone with a lot of experience in how the wolves think. If it was a power they didn't *have* to select the protected player that means it is probably limited use or there is going to be some consequence tonight for them.

Typically a voider only has to decide who they want to stop from using their powers, while a baner has to pick who they want to protect from powers. Though I suppose we can't be sure either exists exactly like that.

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Skeleton, father will protect you all from the nasty critter.

That skeleton is spoken for, I'm afraid.

[Benoojian]

Typically a voider only has to decide who they want to stop from using their powers, while a baner has to pick who they want to protect from powers. Though I suppose we can't be sure either exists exactly like that.

I suspect that very few of the traditional roles are in unchanged, if the verboseness of my own role is anything to go by they are likely all convoluted in some way.