D&D 3.5 low-power; Dungeon of Strangeness 2.0, DEADLINE, 08/APRIL/2024

[Buufreak]

Complete Warrior Samurai2/incarnate4? Approximate Fullblades by using golden weapons from FRCS, which bumps up damage dice.

They were all separate ideas. One using OA. One using AaEG. One using incarnum. The three builds would be entirely disjointed of each other.

It all just depends on what we actually need for a party, or what might be most fun.

[Metastachydium]

I was going to get Baleful Utterance with my Warlock level (flavoured as decay more than destruction).
I like your concept a lot, to be frank, so perhaps I could be persuaded to drop it in your favour.
Anyway, lots of things can change still.

No, no! I'm in a game with Alhallor where we both play unarmed warriors who could make synchronized Flying Kicks by virtue of them both possessing the feat. I think Brakq would, perhaps, even appreciate MORE people breaking MORE things.

I wanted to make a dungeoncrasher, you just made a DUNGEON THRASHER!

Let's just hope she doesn't meet the Dungeon fisher, though. (Have you noticed how canned tuna is often dolphin-free, but never explicitly mermaid-free?) At any rate, a 10' movement speed promises much thrashing uselessly about!

That sounds wonderfully insane, perfect for this adventure.

Why, thank you! I even made a sheet in the meantime:

Brakq the Hammer
F Likely CE Merfolk Warlock 3/Cleric 1/Warblade 1, Level 5 (ECL 6), Init 1, HP 38/38, DR 1/cold iron, Speed 10', swim 50'
AC 13, Touch 9, Flat-footed 12, Fort 4, Ref 2, Will 5, Base Attack Bonus 4
+1 MAUL +3 (2d8+7+1d6 (or MORE), ×3)
HAMMER BLAST (INFINITE) +5 (2d6, –)
Easy travel +1 sharkskin (+4 Armor, +1 Dex, -2 Misc)
Abilities Str 18, Dex 12, Con 10, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 18
Condition None

A picture is forthcoming. arrives:

Spoiler: Brakq the HAMMER

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Scaly fish skin? Check.
Weird bulging fish eyes? Check.
Debris of strictly unknown origin? Check.
Massive oversized hammer? CHECK.

[AscarothD]

What are your thoughts on allowing this Homebrew Warlock

[Alhallor]

What are your thoughts on allowing this Homebrew Warlock

I guess it's okay, what are you wanting of it, that the normal warlock doesn't get you?

[Yas392]

I've settled on a neutral jermlaine sorcerer who uses everyday magic, sitting on his floating invisible throne, loafing about with his familiars watching the things unfold while doing his part at the same time.

[Benoojian]

The same person that wrote the Reserve mage also wrote a few homebrew reserve feats to supplement. I was hoping to use a few of them. Particularly Corpswalk and Vanishing Act

[AscarothD]

I guess it's okay, what are you wanting of it, that the normal warlock doesn't get you?

It's more generous with the invocations, and having access to cantrips is nice. The Dark Secret is similar to a 3/day metamagic feat or similar.

I'm debating on a Lesser Aasimar for race, and there is a Celestial Warlock Heritage that I give up the Dark Secret and gain abilities fluffed around the Angelic Heritage.

Protective Aura (Su): At 2nd level an angelic warlock radiates an aura of safety. Against attacks made or effects created by evil creatures, this ability provides a +2 deflection bonus to AC and a +2 resistance bonus on saving throws to anyone within 10 feet of you. The warlock may suppress or resume this aura as a free action. This aura can be dispelled, but the warlock can create it again as a free action on his next turn.

Smite Evil (Su): At 4th level an angelic warlock may attempt to smite evil with a normal melee attack or his eldritch blast. He adds his Charisma bonus (if any) to his attack roll and deals 1 extra point of damage per warlock level. If the angelic warlock accidentally smites a creature that is not evil, the smite has no effect. Smite evil may only be used with a melee attack or an eldritch blast that requires an attack roll and only applies to the first creature attacked. Once you have used this ability, you cannot do so again for 5 rounds.

Angelic Countenance (Su): At 6th level an angelic warlock gains the ability to shine like the sun. The warlock may shine as the daylight spell. Undead within the range of this light take 1d4 + (1/2 your warlock level rounded down) points of positive energy damage every round they stay within its range. Activating this ability is a standard action and can be turned off as a swift action.

[Buufreak]

They were all separate ideas. One using OA. One using AaEG. One using incarnum. The three builds would be entirely disjointed of each other.

It all just depends on what we actually need for a party, or what might be most fun.

Self quoting so I can @alhallor, who wanted clarification on the fullblade (so still pending approval). The biggest thing is it effectively uses 3.0 weapon size rules, and calls out fullblade as requiring the exotic weapon feat and 2 hands for the standard medium creature, with 2d8 damage. So a large, or in this case an effectively large, can do it with 1 hand.

[namo]

The same person that wrote the Reserve mage also wrote a few homebrew reserve feats to supplement. I was hoping to use a few of them. Particularly Corpswalk and Vanishing Act

My 2c: they don't seem very well written overall (what happens to the current undead if you animate a new one with Corpsewalk? It gets destroyed, or remains but is now uncontrolled?), and Vanishing Act seems pretty overpowered (at-will Swift Invisibility, assuming "vanishing" means becoming invisible). It could stick to providing concealment for instance.
With that said, I love the idea of adding new Reserve feats.

[Auranghzeb]

Ugh, the +2 LA is really killing me, not for power but because it makes it impossible to go into Beast Heart Adept until ECL 8. So before that I'll be taking two levels of Archivist, because An Eidetic Dogchivist is just too good to pass on.

But, i really have to ask: Would you be open to Oslecamo's Blink dog's progression? It is two levels, loses +4 to Dex and handles The blink and the Dimension Door as Spell-Like abilities, which is weaker than than (Su) and limits them to 4/HD per day each. I still think that they should be either swift or immediate actions, free actions are wrong.

Spoiler: Blink dog

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Blink Dog



Hit Die: d10
Level BAB Fort Ref Will Features
1 +1 +2 +2 +0 Dog body, Blink, +1 Dex, +1 Wis, Scent
2 +2 +3 +3 +0 Dimension Door, Dimensional Agility, +1 Dex, +1 Wis
Skills: 4+Int mod. Class skills are A Blinkdogs class skills are Balance, Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Sense Motive, Spot, Survival, and Swim.

Proficiencies: A blinkdog is proficient with its own natural weapons.

Features

Dog Body:The Blink dog loses all other racial bonuses, and gains magical beast traits(basically darkvision 60 foot and low light vision). It is a medium sized magical beast with base speed 40 foot, and a natural weapon bite attack dealing 1d6+1,5 Str modifier damage. Blink dogs have no limbs capable of fine manipulation.

A blink dog also gains a natural armor bonus equal to his Con modifier.

Blink: Blink dogs have the ability to travel to and from the ethereal plane for brief bursts of time, because of this blink dogs often appear to be winking in and out of existence. A blink dog can use blink as a spell like ability 4/day for each HD it possesses. Using this ability requires a move action. When a Blinkdog reaches 5 HD he can use this ability as a free action. The caster level for this effect is the blinkdog’s HD

Ability Increase: A blink dog gains +1 to Dex at 1st level, +1 to Dex at 2nd level, +1 to Wis at 1st and second level, for a total of +2 Dex and +2 Wis at second level.

Scent: As the SRD ability.

Dimension Door: Blink dogs are masters of dimensional movement and can leap from one point to another in the blink of an eye. At 2nd level the blink dog can use Dimension Door as a spell-like ability 4/day for each HD it possesses, except that the range is equal to the Blink Dog's base speed. Using this ability requires a move action. At 8 HD this ability can be used as a free action, but only 1/round.

Dimensional Agility: At 2nd level the Blink Dog gains Dimensional Agility as a bonus feat.

[Athaleon]

Now that it's finally letting me post, here's Variel: a Swordsage that goes (almost) all-in on Desert Wind. Still needs fluff and mundane equipment but should otherwise be good to go.

[Alhallor]

The same person that wrote the Reserve mage also wrote a few homebrew reserve feats to supplement. I was hoping to use a few of them. Particularly Corpswalk and Vanishing Act

To be honest Corpsewalk seems fine. With you taking Reserve mage you have a 2 HD zombie? That's not overpowered.

Vanishing Act seems pretty strong but with it being a swift and not an immediate action I can see it working, given that you don't spam it to be invisible all the time. (Because you only use a swift action every round, yada yada...)

I haven't looked at the other reserve feats at detail if you want to take others I'll give them a closer look.

It's more generous with the invocations, and having access to cantrips is nice. The Dark Secret is similar to a 3/day metamagic feat or similar.

I'm debating on a Lesser Aasimar for race, and there is a Celestial Warlock Heritage that I give up the Dark Secret and gain abilities fluffed around the Angelic Heritage.

Protective Aura (Su): At 2nd level an angelic warlock radiates an aura of safety. Against attacks made or effects created by evil creatures, this ability provides a +2 deflection bonus to AC and a +2 resistance bonus on saving throws to anyone within 10 feet of you. The warlock may suppress or resume this aura as a free action. This aura can be dispelled, but the warlock can create it again as a free action on his next turn.

Smite Evil (Su): At 4th level an angelic warlock may attempt to smite evil with a normal melee attack or his eldritch blast. He adds his Charisma bonus (if any) to his attack roll and deals 1 extra point of damage per warlock level. If the angelic warlock accidentally smites a creature that is not evil, the smite has no effect. Smite evil may only be used with a melee attack or an eldritch blast that requires an attack roll and only applies to the first creature attacked. Once you have used this ability, you cannot do so again for 5 rounds.

Angelic Countenance (Su): At 6th level an angelic warlock gains the ability to shine like the sun. The warlock may shine as the daylight spell. Undead within the range of this light take 1d4 + (1/2 your warlock level rounded down) points of positive energy damage every round they stay within its range. Activating this ability is a standard action and can be turned off as a swift action.

I'm okay with the angelic version, but I'm not okay with Lesser Assimar.

Self quoting so I can @alhallor, who wanted clarification on the fullblade (so still pending approval). The biggest thing is it effectively uses 3.0 weapon size rules, and calls out fullblade as requiring the exotic weapon feat and 2 hands for the standard medium creature, with 2d8 damage. So a large, or in this case an effectively large, can do it with 1 hand.

I'm okay with weird weapon scaling (I guess... It depends what comes of it.) Will it end up doing 6d6 damage? That's too much for this poor dungeon.

Ugh, the +2 LA is really killing me, not for power but because it makes it impossible to go into Beast Heart Adept until ECL 8. So before that I'll be taking two levels of Archivist, because An Eidetic Dogchivist is just too good to pass on.

But, i really have to ask: Would you be open to Oslecamo's Blink dog's progression? It is two levels, loses +4 to Dex and handles The blink and the Dimension Door as Spell-Like abilities, which is weaker than than (Su) and limits them to 4/HD per day each. I still think that they should be either swift or immediate actions, free actions are wrong.

Spoiler: Blink dog

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Blink Dog



Hit Die: d10
Level BAB Fort Ref Will Features
1 +1 +2 +2 +0 Dog body, Blink, +1 Dex, +1 Wis, Scent
2 +2 +3 +3 +0 Dimension Door, Dimensional Agility, +1 Dex, +1 Wis
Skills: 4+Int mod. Class skills are A Blinkdogs class skills are Balance, Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Sense Motive, Spot, Survival, and Swim.

Proficiencies: A blinkdog is proficient with its own natural weapons.

Features

Dog Body:The Blink dog loses all other racial bonuses, and gains magical beast traits(basically darkvision 60 foot and low light vision). It is a medium sized magical beast with base speed 40 foot, and a natural weapon bite attack dealing 1d6+1,5 Str modifier damage. Blink dogs have no limbs capable of fine manipulation.

A blink dog also gains a natural armor bonus equal to his Con modifier.

Blink: Blink dogs have the ability to travel to and from the ethereal plane for brief bursts of time, because of this blink dogs often appear to be winking in and out of existence. A blink dog can use blink as a spell like ability 4/day for each HD it possesses. Using this ability requires a move action. When a Blinkdog reaches 5 HD he can use this ability as a free action. The caster level for this effect is the blinkdog’s HD

Ability Increase: A blink dog gains +1 to Dex at 1st level, +1 to Dex at 2nd level, +1 to Wis at 1st and second level, for a total of +2 Dex and +2 Wis at second level.

Scent: As the SRD ability.

Dimension Door: Blink dogs are masters of dimensional movement and can leap from one point to another in the blink of an eye. At 2nd level the blink dog can use Dimension Door as a spell-like ability 4/day for each HD it possesses, except that the range is equal to the Blink Dog's base speed. Using this ability requires a move action. At 8 HD this ability can be used as a free action, but only 1/round.

Dimensional Agility: At 2nd level the Blink Dog gains Dimensional Agility as a bonus feat.

I do like it being less powerful, but I don't wanna start allowing Oslecamo or I gain a flow of requests regarding that. But I do would like to limit it as swift and immediate actions for both Blink and Dimenison Door... I can also see you're conondrum, I'd think about it a bit and come back to you.

I haven't done the math on how many levels you will gain in the dungeon, I'm pretty sure it won't be 0.

[Auranghzeb]

I do like it being less powerful, but I don't wanna start allowing Oslecamo or I gain a flow of requests regarding that. But I do would like to limit it as swift and immediate actions for both Blink and Dimenison Door... I can also see you're conondrum, I'd think about it a bit and come back to you.

I haven't done the math on how many levels you will gain in the dungeon, I'm pretty sure it won't be 0.

Totally get it, that's a can of worms I'd not open myself.

I'd be fine If I hadn't remembered that Beast Heart Adept existed... Now I'm thorn between playing a blink dogchivist who wants to befriend an Otyugh or the guy who has a blink dog as companion.

I'll trust in our survival and go with what I have, taking either Archivist or Factotum at CL7 and 8 and then Beast Heart Adept. I'll finish the gear and send a reviewed link after work today.

[Yas392]

Here is Jem, my Jermlaine Sorcerer. Still WiP. Decided to be NE instead of N because there is someone who went CE. That may change.

[Metastachydium]

Brakq the Hammer

Meanwhile: eleventh time the charm! I finally managed to get the formatting toolbars to load and update things with a picture. Brakq is ready for review (and to break things)!

(Also, since it came up, CE in this particular instance means not so much "look, an orphan, let's murder 'em and wear their corpse" as "if I manage to crawl close enough to it within this century, I'd so love to test the structural integrity of that architectural feature WITH A HAMMER!!" At any rate, I'm all on board with the whole Tiny Evil Rat Fey Sorcerer idea, and you almost had me with that CHA of 6, Yas!)

[Buufreak]

I'm okay with weird weapon scaling (I guess... It depends what comes of it.) Will it end up doing 6d6 damage? That's too much for this poor dungeon.

Nope! The full plan is swinging them wildly and widely, and building straight fighter. No size spells. No might wallop. Just meaty swords and strength stat and bab to back them up.

[Benoojian]

To be honest Corpsewalk seems fine. With you taking Reserve mage you have a 2 HD zombie? That's not overpowered.

Vanishing Act seems pretty strong but with it being a swift and not an immediate action I can see it working, given that you don't spam it to be invisible all the time. (Because you only use a swift action every round, yada yada...)

I haven't looked at the other reserve feats at detail if you want to take others I'll give them a closer look.

I think Corpsewalk needs the word "control" switched to "animate" to clarify that only one zombie can exist at a time. It is up to you if that means that a second casting is impossible or if a second casting de-animates the first. Either is fine with me, but cutting off the "I let loose a dozen uncontrolled zombies inside the enemy camp" problem from poor wording is a good idea.

You can't do a swift action while flat-footed for instance so at 1 round invisibility I cannot start most combats invisible. Except extremely well-timed ambushes.

Bee Swarm and Shattering Word, Both are damage reserve feats with an added effect. Bee swarm is a little weird, in that it doesn't do damage unless the person moves within the next round, and Shattering Word ignores hardness, so it can be used to slowly destroy locks for instance.

And possibly at higher levels taking Smoulder or Enrage. Enrage is a little poorly written as it just states they attack any creature but imply they mean nearest creature.

I did have to change my level distribution to Beguiler3/Reserve Mage 3 (Precocious Apprentice to get access at the same level as Wizard), because most of the non-direct damage Reserve Feats are 3rd level and I want utility more than damage. That does unlock Reserve Fuse, which is a bit of an increase in ability.

Edit: Gina Thorne, Arcane Gnome Reserve Mage and Dungeon Delver Extraordinaire*

*Dungeon Delver Extraordinaire is a marketing term and does not guarantee the quality of adventuring, nor the survival of your party. Agreeing to adventure with Gina indemnifies her from any potential damages you may incur during the adventure up to and including death.

[AscarothD]

I'm okay with the angelic version, but I'm not okay with Lesser Assimar.

The thing that made Lesser Aasimar LA +0 is because they are no longer Outsiders, they are humanoid planetouched, meaning they are now vulnerable to spells that effect humanoids.
I don't mind dropping the +2 wis, and daylight 1/day if that helps.

[Shiro_Nogard]

A little late, but as it still open I will ask.

Have an idea for a dread necromancer. Would you be cool on that?

[Burning Spear]

With this Revenant, I'd lean Assuran (Hoar)/ Velsharoon. Alignment L.N.

"Grigor Hulmaster"

Ex - (aka Lord) Harmach of Hulburg.
source

32 Point buy:
+4 Str
+2 Cha

Str) 15 +4= 19
Dex) 14
Con) -
Int) 15
Wis) 10
Cha) 15 +2= 17
Hp) 36
Saves)
Magic*
F) +0/ +0 +4= +4 *+1= +5
R) +0/ +0 +2= +2 *+1= +3
W) +2/ +3 +3= +8 *+1= +9
Bab) +0/ +1= +1
Languages Known;
-Common
-Chondathan
-Damaran
-Dwarven
-Elven
-Draconic
-Untheric
-Netherese

If +3 LA:
1) Wizard 1
2) H.Paragon 1
3) H.Paragon 2
= Lvl 1 spells

4) H.Paragon 3
5) Master Specialist 1
= Lvl 2 spells.

1) Wizard 1 (Illusionist with Chains of Disbelief (Ex) and Illusion Mastery (Ex) (no familiar and no extra spell per day)
(Illusionist specialist, no Abjuration/ Alteration), Scribe Scroll.
2) Human Paragon 1 (no caster lvl) Martial Wpn.Prof: Lance, Adaptive Learning (Ex): Gather Info
3) Human Paragon 2
4) Human Paragon 3 +2 Int/ +1 Str or Cha
5) Master Specialist 1 (feats: Skill Focus-Spellcraft)
6) Master Specialist 2 (Expanded Spellbook: +1 spell; ) Ft: Saddleback?

B1) Force of Personality (Cha instead of Wis for Will Sv.) (Defensive)
1) Collegiate Wizzard (Yes a little optimized.)
1) Precocious Apprentice-Phantasmal Assailants
H) Multilingual (+3 Languages, Language skill always inclass, +2 Decipher) (Fluffy)
3) Spellfocus - Illusion (Somewhat optimized)
H.P2) Positive Energy Resistance (10)
B2) Life Sense

Spells: (Per day: 5x 0, 4x 1, +1 Lvl 1/ +1 lvl 2)
6+Int (2)= 8 lvl 1, all lvl 0
4 +2 Illusionist* spells per subsequent lvl.
Lvl0)
Detect Magic [1/-]
Read Magic
Silent Portal* [2/-]
Caltrops
Arcane Mark
Prestidigitation [1/1]
Ray of Frost [1/-]

Lvl1)
Charm person
Identify
Detect Secret Doors [1/-]
Summon Undead I [1/-]
Wall of Smoke [1/-]
Master's Touch
Dead End*
Disguise Self*

Spontaneous Search [1/-]
Appraising Touch [1/-]
Serene Visage*
Ventriloquism*
Cloak Pool
Delusions of Grandeur

Lvl2) (on my next level gain)
Phantasmal Assailants* (My fav.)
Shadow mask*
Invisibility *
Continual Flame
Summon Undead II
Create Magic Tattoo
Discern Shapechanger

Skills: (2+2= 4x4= 16 +4 Human, 4 +2/ +1= 7, 7 = 34)
Know Arcana 4 +2/ +2
Know History 2 +2
Gather Info 5 +3
=10
Concentration 4 +3
Spellcraft 5 +2/ +2
Know Nob. & Royalty 1 +2
Ride Horse 1 +2
Know Religion 1 +2
Decipher Script 1 +2/ +2
=14
Search 5 +2
Spot 2 +0
Sense Motive 2 +0
Language 1
=10
Total=34

Fluff:
Grigor is a Human Noble of a lesser family, died at the hands of some Zhentarim Cyricists), His god Assuran allows him to come back and gifts him a token item (this is an items that will allow me to exist even after I killed one of my initial killers (although Grigor doesn't know that yet).) Grigor has been haunting his killers so far, and managed to kill one of them, but the main group of culprits are still at large.

Grigor is a consummate Noble, educated, curious, but a little snobby, loves horses more then humans. He's curious about landscape and terrain features on a grand scale, history of all sorts and knows somewhat about the nobility and is a fervent believer of the divine, even if he isn't a priest.

As Harmach he wasn't a Tyrant, he was well meaning, and reasonably good at arbitrating disputes, running day to day he left to his staff though. When Cyricist assassins came for him, he fought as good as he could, but to no avail unfortunately. Grigor knows he has changed somehow, but unsure as to the exact nature of it all, he always had a strong
religious connection to his gods of adherance, both Velsharoon and his main god Assuran, He definately feels stronger, both in physical strenght and a little more charismatic, but nothing outwardly tells him anything else yet.

Grigor also feels a nagging urge to find his killers, he knows he hates them, and wants revenge, but this nagging feeling is different, more demanding, as if he is being guided, whether by his hatred for his killers, or by his god, he isn't sure, it's just another issue he has to try to find out, reflecting to himself.
(None of his immunities are things he'd gladly try out, so trial and error will only show him these, and I will play him as if he still supposes he is "human".)

Items/ Possesions; (13.000 gp)
Ring of Assuran; (suggested request to Dm.)
Ring of Protection +1, + (Any Revenant wearing this ring does not dissipate at the end of 6 months after it's creation, it proceeds to exist indefinately by Assuran's will, and Assuran wil divert my attention to a new target when my initial target is resolved, so a good trope for the Dm to use if we go any further even after this initial dungeon campaign.), (2.000
+??)
Gloves of Ogre Strenght +2 Strenght (4.000)
Mithril Round Heavy Steel Shield +1, (1.000+ 170=1.170
Stiletto +1 (Dagger) (p) (his main weapon with his shield when not mounted) (302+2.000= 2.302)
Mw Lance (310)
=9.782
Noble's Outfit,
Survival outfit,
Warhorse, heavy,
Saddle and bit.
Belt Pouch,
Lance's

[Buufreak]

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This all looks a bit optimized for what is advertised as quite the suboptimal game.

[Burning Spear]

This all looks a bit optimized for what is advertised as quite the suboptimal game.

Couple of feats that will never get used in a dungeon?
Yea, soooo optimized, 😆
A wizard with int 14?
Nobody wants to play a complete noob, but there has to be some character concept consistency regardless of "optimization or not".
Please let me and the Dm talk about this, instead of crying foul right from the get-go.

Also; how is a Gnome single classed lvl 6 mage with an Int of 18 at start up not optimized? (just to make a point).

[Ridai]

Posted sheets (in posting order)

Player	Character	Races + Classes	Notes
AscarothD	Solis Augustine	Aasimar Warlock	Incomplete
Auranghzeb	Arco	Blink Dog	Floof Fluff Background here
Ridai	Faith St. Mary	Human Channeler	Done
samduke	Angie Croft	Human Factotum/Warmage	Background here
Cygnia	Mystery	Tibbit Dragonfire Adept	Scheming
Metastachydium	Brakq the Hammer	Merfolk Warlock/Cleric/Warblade	Done
Athaleon	Variel Karsomyr	Human Swordsage	Incomplete
Yas392	Jem	Jermlaine Sorcerer	Backstory in progress?
Benoojian	Gian Thorne	Arcane Gnome Beguiler/Reserve Mage	No background
Burning Spear	{CHARNAME}	Revenant Wizard/Human Paragon/Master Specialist	Incomplete

Also, a thought on Faith St. Mary's Horn of Heavens: it's a full action to do 3d8 sonic damage in a 20ft cone, with a save for half, then one round of cooldown before it can be tooted again. The main objective, really, is to have summonable tootables at-will.

If the damage of the horn feels like it would be too much, can we make a deal and change it to an invocation with which Faith can summon any type of normal instrument (only one summoned instrument at a time, and disappears if dropped) and maybe a sketchbook with drawing supplies?

[Cygnia]

Scheming

*Mystery affects a look of innocence with a "borrowed" halo*

[Yas392]

Updating my status.

Player	Character	Races + Classes	Notes
AscarothD	Solis Augustine	Aasimar Warlock	Incomplete
Auranghzeb	Arco	Blink Dog	Floof Fluff Background here
Ridai	Faith St. Mary	Human Channeler	Done
samduke	Angie Croft	Human Factotum/Warmage	Background here
Cygnia	Mystery	Tibbit Dragonfire Adept	Scheming
Metastachydium	Brakq the Hammer	Merfolk Warlock/Cleric/Warblade	Done
Athaleon	Variel Karsomyr	Human Swordsage	Incomplete
Yas392	Jem	Jermlaine Sorcerer	Complete
Benoojian	Gian Thorne	Arcane Gnome Beguiler/Reserve Mage	No background
Burning Spear	{CHARNAME}	Revenant Wizard/Human Paragon/Master Specialist	Incomplete

[AscarothD]

The only reason I have not completed my app yet, is if the GM still will not allow me to play a lesser Aasimar even with being humanoid planetouched, instead of outsider, I offered to also remove the +2 Wis and my 1/day daylight spell.

I figured that it's a big enough nerf, but still gives me +2 Charisma.

It's also the main reason he would have the Celestial Heritage warlock feature. :)

Simply waiting for the GM to respond.

Did perhaps the GM say no, because I took 2 feats? Celestial Heritage and Outsider Wings?

Outsider Wings (Celestial)
( Races of Faerun, p. 167)
[General]
You have sprouted wings appropriate to your heritage, revealing the power of your supernatural bloodline.

Prerequisite: Aasimar or tiefling, and Will saves +2, base Fortitude, Celestial Bloodline or Fiendish Bloodline, Reflex,

Benefit: You gain wings (feathered if an aasimar, batlike if a tiefling), allowing you to fly at your land speed (average maneuverability). A medium or heavy load that would reduce your land speed reduces your fly speed a proportionate amount.


Added Note. Warlocks have fell flight invocation at 6th, if I wanted to gain flight through an invocation.
FELL FLIGHT
Lesser; 3rd
When you use this invocation, the powers of darkness bear you aloft as you sprout a streaming, winglike cape of shadows. You can fly at a speed equal to your land speed with good maneuverability for 24 hours.

If the wings were the reason not approving the lesser aasimar, I can simply not gain flight in general. Feats or Invocation. Does it also mean banning any other methods of flight and teleportation?

[Burning Spear]

Simply waiting for the GM to respond.

Likewise, but I'll bve scribbling away at my fluff, basing it on Forgotten Realms untill told otherwise .

My character's name btw: Grigor Hulmaster

[Burning Spear]

Updating my status.

Player	Character	Races + Classes	Notes
AscarothD	Solis Augustine	Aasimar Warlock	Incomplete
Auranghzeb	Arco	Blink Dog	Floof Fluff Background here
Ridai	Faith St. Mary	Human Channeler	Done
samduke	Angie Croft	Human Factotum/Warmage	Background here
Cygnia	Mystery	Tibbit Dragonfire Adept	Scheming
Metastachydium	Brakq the Hammer	Merfolk Warlock/Cleric/Warblade	Done
Athaleon	Variel Karsomyr	Human Swordsage	Incomplete
Yas392	Jem	Jermlaine Sorcerer	Complete
Benoojian	Gian Thorne	Arcane Gnome Beguiler/Reserve Mage	No background
Burning Spear	Grigor Hulmaster	Revenant Wizard/Human Paragon/Master Specialist	Coming/ Scheming

[Aegis013]

Throwing in a Knight, should be very low on the power scale.

Player	Character	Races + Classes	Notes
AscarothD	Solis Augustine	Aasimar Warlock	Incomplete
Auranghzeb	Arco	Blink Dog	Floof Fluff Background here
Ridai	Faith St. Mary	Human Channeler	Done
samduke	Angie Croft	Human Factotum/Warmage	Background here
Cygnia	Mystery	Tibbit Dragonfire Adept	Scheming
Metastachydium	Brakq the Hammer	Merfolk Warlock/Cleric/Warblade	Done
Athaleon	Variel Karsomyr	Human Swordsage	Incomplete
Yas392	Jem	Jermlaine Sorcerer	Complete
Benoojian	Gian Thorne	Arcane Gnome Beguiler/Reserve Mage	No background
Burning Spear	Grigor Hulmaster	Revenant Wizard/Human Paragon/Master Specialist	Coming/ Scheming
Aegis013	Xyrona	Half-Elf Knight/Anointed Knight	Pending additional fluff

[Alhallor]

Totally get it, that's a can of worms I'd not open myself.

I'd be fine If I hadn't remembered that Beast Heart Adept existed... Now I'm thorn between playing a blink dogchivist who wants to befriend an Otyugh or the guy who has a blink dog as companion.

I'll trust in our survival and go with what I have, taking either Archivist or Factotum at CL7 and 8 and then Beast Heart Adept. I'll finish the gear and send a reviewed link after work today.

Regarding the Blink Dog.

Would you be okay with capping the Blink and Dimension Door to Oslecamo levels (only be used on HD as immediate and swift actions respectively and making them Su's), getting the +4 Dex down to a +2 and just using the 4 racial HD with no adjustments?

I know it's a weird hodgepodge of changes but that feels right to me (and you can still get in some levels of Archivist that way.)

Nope! The full plan is swinging them wildly and widely, and building straight fighter. No size spells. No might wallop. Just meaty swords and strength stat and bab to back them up.

I'm okay with that. The last dungeon game just had a 6d6+strength hammer wielder that was... A little much for the game.

I think Corpsewalk needs the word "control" switched to "animate" to clarify that only one zombie can exist at a time. It is up to you if that means that a second casting is impossible or if a second casting de-animates the first. Either is fine with me, but cutting off the "I let loose a dozen uncontrolled zombies inside the enemy camp" problem from poor wording is a good idea.

You can't do a swift action while flat-footed for instance so at 1 round invisibility I cannot start most combats invisible. Except extremely well-timed ambushes.

Bee Swarm and Shattering Word, Both are damage reserve feats with an added effect. Bee swarm is a little weird, in that it doesn't do damage unless the person moves within the next round, and Shattering Word ignores hardness, so it can be used to slowly destroy locks for instance.

And possibly at higher levels taking Smoulder or Enrage. Enrage is a little poorly written as it just states they attack any creature but imply they mean nearest creature.

I did have to change my level distribution to Beguiler3/Reserve Mage 3 (Precocious Apprentice to get access at the same level as Wizard), because most of the non-direct damage Reserve Feats are 3rd level and I want utility more than damage. That does unlock Reserve Fuse, which is a bit of an increase in ability.

Edit: Gina Thorne, Arcane Gnome Reserve Mage and Dungeon Delver Extraordinaire*

*Dungeon Delver Extraordinaire is a marketing term and does not guarantee the quality of adventuring, nor the survival of your party. Agreeing to adventure with Gina indemnifies her from any potential damages you may incur during the adventure up to and including death.

I'm down for the Corpsewalk changes and glad that you're not gonna spam Invisibility.

I think the other Reserve feats are fine (I didn't saw anything truly outrageous if I interpret them correctly). Letting loose a Bee swarm will be great. Be prepared for a counter in the form of "Tensers really annoying bee" though.

The thing that made Lesser Aasimar LA +0 is because they are no longer Outsiders, they are humanoid planetouched, meaning they are now vulnerable to spells that effect humanoids.
I don't mind dropping the +2 wis, and daylight 1/day if that helps.

Yes, I think dropping the +2 wis would be fine for me. You can keep the daylight, I just think 2 +2's are a bit much without any LA or other balancing factors.

A little late, but as it still open I will ask.

Have an idea for a dread necromancer. Would you be cool on that?

Yes, but with caveats. Don't make yourself healable by negative energy and don't build an undead army to solve problems for you. Minionmancy seems to be the death for a lot of games. If you're just fine with using dread necromancers spells and other abilities I'm fine with it.

Also interested, i'd like to apply with a revenant build (+1 cr, but no LA, other then some person adjudicating it a +3 LA)

Also, what world is this dungeon going to be in? what gods are allowed? I am partial to Forgotten Realms'S Pantheon tbh.

With this Revenant, I'd lean Assuran (Hoar)/ Velsharoon. Alignment L.N.

"Grigor Hulmaster"

(Lord aka) Harmach
source

32 Point buy:
+4 Str
+2 Cha

Str) 15 +4= 19
Dex) 14
Con) -
Int) 14
Wis) 10
Cha) 16 +2= 18

If +3 LA:
1) Wizard 1
2) H.Paragon 1
3) H.Paragon 2
= Lvl 1 spells

4) H.Paragon 3
5) Master Specialist 1
= Lvl 2 spells.

1) Wizard 1 (Illusionist with Chains of Disbelief (Ex) and Illusion Mastery (Ex) (no familiar and no extra spell per day)
(Illusionist specialist, no Abjuration/ Alteration)
2) Human Paragon 1 (no caster lvl) Martial Wpn.Prof: Lance, Adaptive Learning (Ex): Gather Info
3) Human Paragon 2
4) Human Paragon 3 +2/ +1
5) Master Specialist 1 (feats: Skill Focus-Spellcraft)
6) Master Specialist 2 (Expanded Spellbook: +1 spell; )

B1) Force of Personality (Cha instead of Wis for Will Sv.) (Defensive)
B2) Positive Energy Resistance or Life Sense (Defensive or More options)
1) Collegiate Wizzard (Yes a little optimized.)
1) Saddleback (Regional) (Fluffy, no-one takes a horse into a dungeon, now do they?!))
H) Multilingual (+3 Languages, Language skill always inclass, +2 Decipher) (Fluffy)
3) Spellfocus - Illusion (Somewhat optimized)
H.P2) Mounted Combat (Again, horse in a dungeon?)

Spells:
6+Int (2)= 8 lvl 1, all lvl 0
4 +2 Illusionist spells per subsequent lvl.
Lvl0)
Detect Magic
Read Magic
Silent Portal

Lvl1)
Charm person
Identify
Detect Secret Doors
Summon Undead I
Wall of Smoke
Master's Touch
Dead End*
Disguise Self*

Spontaneous Search
Appraising Touch
Serene Visage*
Ventriloquism*
Cloak Pool
Delusions of Grandeur

Lvl2)
Phantasmal Assailants* (My fav.)
Invisibility *
Continual Flame
Summon Undead II
Create Magic Tattoo
Discern Shapechanger

Skills:
Know Arcana .. +2/ +2



Fluff: (currently nutshell, will elaborate more once I get some answers rto my questions from the Dm.)
Human Noble of a lesser family, died at the hands of some (?? Dm can suggest his worlds evil guys, If Forgotten Realms, then I'd be eyeing Zhentarim Cyricists), Assuran allows him to come back and gifts him a token item (magical item with nothing much, this is more an items that will allow me to exist even after

So presuming the setting used is Forgotten Realms (yes it's a big presumption, but I cna at least start writing my fluff, and can alter it if another world is chosen.)





Items/ Possesions; (13.000 gp)
Ring of Assuran; (suggested request to Dm.)
Ring of Protection +1, + Any Revenant wearing this ring does not dissipate at the end of 6 months after it's creation, it proceeds to exist indefinately by Assuran's will.

Gloves of Ogre Strenght +2 Strenght
Round Heavy Shield +1,
Stiletto +1 (Dagger) (p) (his main weapon with his shield when not mounted)
Mw Lance

+3 LA seems to be fitting for a Revenant, I'm not sure about the Regeneration because it basically seems that you're unkillable without a very specific setup. Even with lethal damage you're just popping up some minutes later that seems... Pretty excessive. As written it seems to powerful do you have any ideas how to balance that down and still maintaining the vision you clearly have for this guy?

I haven't thought about the setting at all, I guess you're not doing wrong with Forgotten Realms. But you won't meet any NPC's from there.

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Also, a thought on Faith St. Mary's Horn of Heavens: it's a full action to do 3d8 sonic damage in a 20ft cone, with a save for half, then one round of cooldown before it can be tooted again. The main objective, really, is to have summonable tootables at-will.

If the damage of the horn feels like it would be too much, can we make a deal and change it to an invocation with which Faith can summon any type of normal instrument (only one summoned instrument at a time, and disappears if dropped) and maybe a sketchbook with drawing supplies?

I'm pretty sure 3d8 save for half is fine.

The only reason I have not completed my app yet, is if the GM still will not allow me to play a lesser Aasimar even with being humanoid planetouched, instead of outsider, I offered to also remove the +2 Wis and my 1/day daylight spell.

I figured that it's a big enough nerf, but still gives me +2 Charisma.

It's also the main reason he would have the Celestial Heritage warlock feature. :)

Simply waiting for the GM to respond.

Did perhaps the GM say no, because I took 2 feats? Celestial Heritage and Outsider Wings?

Outsider Wings (Celestial)
( Races of Faerun, p. 167)
[General]
You have sprouted wings appropriate to your heritage, revealing the power of your supernatural bloodline.

Prerequisite: Aasimar or tiefling, and Will saves +2, base Fortitude, Celestial Bloodline or Fiendish Bloodline, Reflex,

Benefit: You gain wings (feathered if an aasimar, batlike if a tiefling), allowing you to fly at your land speed (average maneuverability). A medium or heavy load that would reduce your land speed reduces your fly speed a proportionate amount.


Added Note. Warlocks have fell flight invocation at 6th, if I wanted to gain flight through an invocation.
FELL FLIGHT
Lesser; 3rd
When you use this invocation, the powers of darkness bear you aloft as you sprout a streaming, winglike cape of shadows. You can fly at a speed equal to your land speed with good maneuverability for 24 hours.

If the wings were the reason not approving the lesser aasimar, I can simply not gain flight in general. Feats or Invocation. Does it also mean banning any other methods of flight and teleportation?

Flight is fine, you will have a ceiling and being a flyer may make things... Interesting to say the least in certain encounters. Sorry that I was late on answering the latest bunch of questions.

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I won't correspond to finished charakters, if there isn't a question attached.

Sorry for taking longer for this set of questions, I hope I could answer anything that came up. Should I missed questions, please just send them again.