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    Something on those lines, at the least, I agree.
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    I am not sure that the polymorphed lizard needs that much help, at this point.
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    So if Calder swallowed Bloodfeast whole, then swallowed Sunny whole, and Sunny used his AMF gaze on Bloodfeast inside Calder's stomach, Bloodfeast could expand and blow Calder into pieces.

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    If something happens to Bloodfeast I will never recover emotionally or psychologically. I waited ten years to see my baby return to his true form, I can't lose him now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunsen_h View Post
    So if Calder swallowed Bloodfeast whole, then swallowed Sunny whole, and Sunny used his AMF gaze on Bloodfeast inside Calder's stomach, Bloodfeast could expand and blow Calder into pieces.
    Elan is working on that now ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bunsen_h View Post
    So if Calder swallowed Bloodfeast whole, then swallowed Sunny whole, and Sunny used his AMF gaze on Bloodfeast inside Calder's stomach, Bloodfeast could expand and blow Calder into pieces.
    Let's not forget that before bloodfeast was polymorphed, it swallowed a cow, a goat, a dog, a cat, a bird, a spider, and a fly; raising no question about how or why.
    The thing is the Azurites don't use a single color; they use a single hue. The use light blue, dark blue, black, white, glossy blue, off-white with a bluish tint. They sky's the limit, as long as it's blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quizatzhaderac View Post
    Let's not forget that before bloodfeast was polymorphed, it swallowed a cow, a goat, a dog, a cat, a bird, a spider, and a fly; raising no question about how or why.
    So...you're saying Bloodfeast's real name is Renfield? The question is how did he get the cow to swallow the goat. All of the rest are easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordar View Post
    So...you're saying Bloodfeast's real name is Renfield? The question is how did he get the cow to swallow the goat.
    Perhaps he'll croak ...
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    Perhaps he'll croak ...
    That requires the spider to have been eaten by the frog, then the frog eaten by the bird...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordar View Post
    The question is how did he get the cow to swallow the goat.
    She polymorphed the goat, then right down her throat!
    The thing is the Azurites don't use a single color; they use a single hue. The use light blue, dark blue, black, white, glossy blue, off-white with a bluish tint. They sky's the limit, as long as it's blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quizatzhaderac View Post
    She polymorphed the goat, then right down her throat!
    Then what happens to the dog inside the goat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argis13 View Post
    Then what happens to the dog inside the goat?
    It's turtles all the way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argis13 View Post
    Then what happens to the dog inside the goat?
    If it was a dachshund, it likely got digested.
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    Colloquially, they were often referred to as wiener dogs...
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    I wish I was an Oscar Mayer wiener...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzardok View Post
    It's dachshund, with an h.
    Notice how there's no dachs in the whole list? That's because they are at the end, eating Calder and Bloodfeast and Redcloak and Snarl and...either that, or just killing them for sport.

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    There's no badger (dachs), because they caused all of the smaller animals to scatter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quizatzhaderac View Post
    There's no badger (dachs), because they caused all of the smaller animals to scatter.
    With a variant definition of "badgersmaller = less than 5 categories higher than the size of the specific badger".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzardok View Post
    It's dachshund, with an h.
    So it is, I corrected it.
    Danke schoen.

    As to badgers: if anyone had swallowed a badger they'd have also had to swallow the mushrooms.
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    I think you're all getting it wrong: Vaarsuvius is drinking alcohol. It's been a tough day after all.

    Also, I would like to feed some dinosaur shish kebab to Calder, with or without the help of Roy's sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Precure View Post
    I think you're all getting it wrong: Vaarsuvius is drinking alcohol. It's been a tough day after all.
    It's green, so absynthe ... which strikes me as being within V's tastes.

    Also, I would like to feed some dinosaur shish kebab to Calder, with or without the help of Roy's sword.
    Calder may not be in a position to consume any kebabs in a few strips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KorvinStarmast View Post
    It's green, so absynthe ... which strikes me as being within V's tastes.
    I don’t imagine V enjoying it much. I think the bit about absinthe being poisonous (beyond the alcohol) is an urban myth but it’d still mess them up nastily with their Con penalty, wouldn’t it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    I don’t imagine V enjoying it much. I think the bit about absinthe being poisonous (beyond the alcohol) is an urban myth but it’d still mess them up nastily with their Con penalty, wouldn’t it?
    I always saw CHA and WIS as V's dump stats?

    (Might be because all mages/sorcerers in my campaigns always chose to have high CON, even the elven ones. Having 1d4-1 or 1d4-2 HP/level is rough ^^)

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    I vaguely remember one post of Rich’s mentioning they have a Con penalty, and another that V’s other mental stats aren’t that terrible. The second one definitely has a link on the analysis thread at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    I vaguely remember one post of Rich’s mentioning they have a Con penalty, and another that V’s other mental stats aren’t that terrible. The second one definitely has a link on the analysis thread at least.
    -1 CON means, what, 30-35 HP at level 17? Oof. Unless they took a feat to compensate, that's some serious Glass Canon thing they have going.

    V themselves talked about their non-ideal charisma when they had to apologize to Elan during the "I am a wizard!" incident, and they've got some real communication problem going on through most of the comic, so I assumed it was the dump stat. ^^

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    Well yeah, it's one of the few things that prevent V from handling practically every single combat scene without it feeling forced. They've had spells that can shut down entire fights for the past five hundred strips or so, and there's only so many times that "spell resistance too high for V to overcome" and "physical combatant with AMF" makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    I don’t imagine V enjoying it much. I think the bit about absinthe being poisonous (beyond the alcohol) is an urban myth but it’d still mess them up nastily with their Con penalty, wouldn’t it?
    Think about it, it sucks to be a drunk elf, you can't sleep.

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    When V gets drunk, they turn into an elf from The Hobbit, who frolicks singing and joking through the woods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    I don’t imagine V enjoying it much. I think the bit about absinthe being poisonous (beyond the alcohol) is an urban myth but it’d still mess them up nastily with their Con penalty, wouldn’t it?
    Well, we've seen V drinking wine before.

    (Actual absinthe contains thujone, which is indeed a toxic chemical. Whether or not thujone actually has the effects the absinthe drinkers of legend claim it does is very much up for debate, though.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vikenlugaid View Post
    Think about it, it sucks to be a drunk elf, you can't sleep.
    Speaking of which, does anyone know where the mechanics for alcohol are in 3.5e? I know that it's mechanically treated as a poison.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tzardok View Post
    When V gets drunk, they turn into an elf from The Hobbit, who frolicks singing and joking through the woods.
    ...Jokes aside I don't think that's what Tolkien elves do? Actually, where did the tree-hugger elf trope start from in the first place? D&D?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    Well, we've seen V drinking wine before.

    (Actual absinthe contains thujone, which is indeed a toxic chemical. Whether or not thujone actually has the effects the absinthe drinkers of legend claim it does is very much up for debate, though.)
    I've heard that most of its effects are largely due to being alcoholic rather than any other properties. Either way I don't think they'd be very nice to V and their poor Fortitude saves though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielxcutter View Post
    Speaking of which, does anyone know where the mechanics for alcohol are in 3.5e? I know that it's mechanically treated as a poison.
    I... don't think there are any?

    ...Jokes aside I don't think that's what Tolkien elves do? Actually, where did the tree-hugger elf trope start from in the first place? D&D?
    Did you read The Hobbit? Because the elves there, at least those of Rivendell, are pretty silly bunch who sing nonsense songs, tease the dwarves about their beards, party all the time, frolick through the meadows and seem to be allergic to serious business. It's Elrond alone who keeps them on track. The elves of the Murkwood are more serious, but even they party most nights and enjoy a good amount of wine.

    I've heard that most of its effects are largely due to being alcoholic rather than any other properties. Either way I don't think they'd be very nice to V and their poor Fortitude saves though.
    People shouldn't overvalue thujone. It's also in thyme and rosemary, and nobody claims those are toxic.

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