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    SolithKnightGuy

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    Default Sensible approach to taking a town as a mini-BBEG

    Hey guys,
    It’s more a theory crafting, then an actual question, but it will help me greatly in shaping encounters in next chapter of my campaign. In this case, we have a lizard folk shaman, leading a rather strong army with a goal of taking a rather remote human settlement. The objective is complete occupation of mentioned town, casualties among the townsfolk are not really an issue.

    Shaman assets:

    Minibosses:
    • 5x Archmage (spell slots up to lvl 8),
    • 1x Ancient green dragon
    • 2x adult green dragon



    Stronger individual mosnters:
    • 10 x goristo
    • 1x Nalfeshnee,
    • 4x Hydra,
    • 7x storm giant
    • 6x giant constrictor snake,
    • 2x medusa,
    • 2x tyrranosaurus rex,
    • 3x spirit naga,
    • 10x giant crocodiles,
    • 8x black abishai
    • 10x basilisk,
    • 10x giant lizard



    Mobs:
    Cca 500 lizardfolk warriors
    All monsters are refluffed as lizard-fluffed monsters (dragons = poison flying snakes, goristos = “ram lizards”…)

    This may seem as a sure win for the attackers, but the town they are attacking is also not without defences:
    • Small town of about 3000 inhabitants, placed upon a sparsely-used trade route
    • About a mile of clearing around the town
    • Town is placed next to a river, about 50 ft wide


    Town defences:
    - 20 ft deep, 15 ft wide, flooded moat
    - 20 ft high stone wall with towers
    - A minor, sturdy stone fort in town

    Militia:
    • Given, this is sort of “wild west”, all adult males and a number of females are regularly training with simple weapons. Fully mobilized, militia counts about 900 commoners with simple weapons plus cca 50 level 2-3 fighters and some similar level casters
    • At all times, due to travel, there are 2+1d3 adventuring parties present in town of average lvl 5
    • There is a good chance of a stronger party visiting town too, so one more party of lvl 10
    • With all counted defences, for an example Ancient green dragon is suddenly not much of a threat. He can do damage and scare a lot of people, but volleys of arrows will still be a pain. Manned walls are a problem (expected massive losses of attackers). Goristos may break down the gates, but this again means invading forces suffering greatly due to fire from rooftops.
    • Also, there is no time for a long siege. Crows/sending stones and a potential adventurer with teleport may bring an army here fast, so it must be done fast.



    How would you approach taking such town with these assets?

    Thanks!

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    EvilClericGuy

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    Default Re: Sensible approach to taking a town as a mini-BBEG

    Walk the army to the gate, show off the giant monsters, maybe fly the dragon-snakes overhead, and tell the townspeople to surrender or be destroyed. Seeing as the goal is occupation, not destruction, getting there without fighting should be the preferable option. If the townsfolk have any common sense, they'll take the surrender. Trained or not, those are commoner we're talking about, and even if they are defending their homes and families, they should realize the odds.
    Static defenses (and terrain, which wasn't mentioned) are a good force multiplier, but the lizards are numerous enough they don't have to concentrate all forces into a single spot, and spreading the defenders out leaves them vulnerable to overwhelming force. Sure, the defenders can shoot two goristros to death if there's enough of them together, but can they do it in 5 places at once, while the goristros are supported by other monsters, while being bombarded by giants (Storm Giant's lightning strike safely outranges simple weapons, by the way) and magic, with fliers causing havoc inside the town (you can even have the archmages ride the fliers for some extra oomph) while the main force keeps defenders too busy to respond, and there's a (giant-created) storm raging?
    It's Eberron, not ebberon.
    It's not high magic, it's wide magic.
    And it's definitely not steampunk. The only time steam gets involved is when the fire and water elementals break loose.

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    Imp

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    Default Re: Sensible approach to taking a town as a mini-BBEG

    Quote Originally Posted by HoboKnight View Post
    Hey guys,
    ItÂ’s more a theory crafting, then an actual question, but it will help me greatly in shaping encounters in next chapter of my campaign. In this case, we have a lizard folk shaman, leading a rather strong army with a goal of taking a rather remote human settlement. The objective is complete occupation of mentioned town, casualties among the townsfolk are not really an issue.

    Shaman assets:

    Minibosses:
    • 5x Archmage (spell slots up to lvl 8),
    • 1x Ancient green dragon
    • 2x adult green dragon



    Stronger individual mosnters:
    • 10 x goristo
    • 1x Nalfeshnee,
    • 4x Hydra,
    • 7x storm giant
    • 6x giant constrictor snake,
    • 2x medusa,
    • 2x tyrranosaurus rex,
    • 3x spirit naga,
    • 10x giant crocodiles,
    • 8x black abishai
    • 10x basilisk,
    • 10x giant lizard



    Mobs:
    Cca 500 lizardfolk warriors
    All monsters are refluffed as lizard-fluffed monsters (dragons = poison flying snakes, goristos = “ram lizards”…)

    This may seem as a sure win for the attackers, but the town they are attacking is also not without defences:
    • Small town of about 3000 inhabitants, placed upon a sparsely-used trade route
    • About a mile of clearing around the town
    • Town is placed next to a river, about 50 ft wide


    Town defences:
    - 20 ft deep, 15 ft wide, flooded moat
    - 20 ft high stone wall with towers
    - A minor, sturdy stone fort in town

    Militia:
    • Given, this is sort of “wild west”, all adult males and a number of females are regularly training with simple weapons. Fully mobilized, militia counts about 900 commoners with simple weapons plus cca 50 level 2-3 fighters and some similar level casters
    • At all times, due to travel, there are 2+1d3 adventuring parties present in town of average lvl 5
    • There is a good chance of a stronger party visiting town too, so one more party of lvl 10
    • With all counted defences, for an example Ancient green dragon is suddenly not much of a threat. He can do damage and scare a lot of people, but volleys of arrows will still be a pain. Manned walls are a problem (expected massive losses of attackers). Goristos may break down the gates, but this again means invading forces suffering greatly due to fire from rooftops.
    • Also, there is no time for a long siege. Crows/sending stones and a potential adventurer with teleport may bring an army here fast, so it must be done fast.



    How would you approach taking such town with these assets?

    Thanks!
    5 Archmages means 5 uses of Teleport, bringing 40 individuals with them.

    Get a spy to bring 5 bits of the town, preferrably of the places that are important to take out first (alarm system, whoever is in charge in time of conflict, arseenal, the places where adventurers gather, the main gate, etc).

    Before the town realizes the time to fight is right now and not in 2h, take :

    Archmage 1:
    -the Ancient Dragon
    - the Adult Dragons
    -the Medusas
    -3x Black Abishais (acting as bodyguatds for the Medusas and the Archmage)

    Archmage 2:
    -the Hydras
    -the T-Rexes
    -the Nalfeshnee
    -1x Black Abishai (acting as bodyguard for the Archmage)

    Archmage 3:
    -the Frost Giants
    -1x Spirit Nagas

    Archmage 4:
    -2x Spirit Nagas
    -1x Black Abishai
    -5x Goristo

    Archmage 5:
    -4x Black Abishais
    -4x Goristo

    And have each group Teleport in the town at the relevant tactical points, at the same time.

    This will cause massive initial damages, a lot of panic and morale loss, and cripple the defense as its key elements are annihilated in one swoop.

    Things like arrow fire won't be as much of an issue because the defenders will be spread and have troubles hitting on enemies who are already in the streets.

    Archmage 1, the dragons and the others are here to disable the biggest threats, be it the stronger defenders, those who are the best at keeping the population focused on defending, or those who can call for help.

    Archmage 2, with the Nalphenees and the big meatbag monsters are here to target civilians/the most vulnerable combatants in large quantities. Their goal is to, purely and simply, slaughter people that the stronger defenders will want to defend, either forcing the town commanders to divert a lot of people from protecting tactical assets to do that or further demolarizing the defenders (and probably causing quite a few militia members to ababdon their posts in hope of saving the helpless targets). It's important to put the Hydras and the T-Rexes here, because in an open field they are obvious targets for the defenders, while inside the town massacring the defenseless they are pure nightmare.

    Archmage 3 and the Frost Giants would probably be best to deal with town spellcasters or the non-critically-powerful adventurers.

    And the two remaining Archmages with the Goristos are here to damage the gates or buildings that need to be broken.

    Once enough damage has been done, the Archmages Teleport back to the army, everyone who can get healed is healed to full while the rest of the army marches on the town.

    Something to remember is that the assault plan is likely to come from the Shaman. Lizardfolks don't feel the same way humans or even dragons do, but a Shaman competent enough to gather such an army probably is more than smart and wise enough to know how to exploit other humanoid species' feelings.

    It should also be noted that as a Shaman, he probably has more experience leading in peace time than against enemies. As a result, making mistakes like:

    -Cornering the enemies without an escape route, causing them to fight to the last.

    - Committing obvious attrocities without realizing it will get some people to stand and fight against impossible odds just to spare their allies this fate or out of anger and indignation.

    - Not realizing killing everyone isn't needed when they're fleeing and giving him victory, causing troops to be dedicated to wasteful pursuits

    - Not realizing that not all his followers are willing to die for him and his cause all the time, resulting in him demanding a lot out of them without taking his troops' morale into account.

    Can be expected (though not all of them, and certainly not all at once, if the Shaman is smart, wise and/or charismatic)
    Last edited by Unoriginal; 2024-04-19 at 09:13 AM.

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    SolithKnightGuy

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    Default Re: Sensible approach to taking a town as a mini-BBEG

    Unoriginal does it again. Thank you, very useful! :)

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    Kobold

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    Default Re: Sensible approach to taking a town as a mini-BBEG

    Honestly this is overkill, lots of these forces could take the town on their own.

    The 10 Goristros are the biggest overkill. Also most of the militia assuming they have a brain would rout in the face of most of these monsters.
    Last edited by Envyus; 2024-04-28 at 08:35 PM.

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    Flumph

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    Default Re: Sensible approach to taking a town as a mini-BBEG

    Teleporting in and taking out key defenses is definitely a great idea given what the baddies are working with. Some spells that would be particularly helpful for this type of fighting are Earthquake, Freezing Sphere, Tsunami, and Transmute Rock. Tsunami is a particularly interesting one since it has effectively infinite range. If your Shaman is a high level swamp druid (very fitting for a lizardfolk shaman) than he might be standing way back at a vantage point with the main army and then making a tsunami in order to push away and corral any defenders who are grouped up enough to be a threat after the first wave of bad guys goes in. Anyone with Earthquake or Transmute Rock can use those spells to destroy the fort, walls and foundations of the towers. Freezing Sphere isn't a ton of damage but it's more than enough to kill commoners, guards, or low level adventurers, it's a very big AoE and moreover it can be regularly cast from 300 ft or cast into a marble and then dropped from a great height (way out of bow range). So tactical use of these spells, especially in conjunction with fiends and dragons and such can make pretty quick work of the defenses as laid out.

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