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    Default Complete Scoundrel Confusion

    I have a couple of questions related to the multi-class feats in the complete scoundrel.

    Take a Fighter 4/Rogue 3/Swashbuckler 3

    Who has taken BOTH the Daring Warrior and Daring Outlaw feats. Am I to assume that for bonus feats and sneak attack damage he is receiving bonus feats as if he was a level 7 fighter and for sneak attack damage as if he was a level 6 rogue? And how is the swashbuckler bonuses decided? Do I use the highest number of stack levels or the lowest number or do I combine all of them for the swashbuckler side?

    Didn't ask this in the Raw section, because I think the question might be too complicated for a short answer.
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    Default Re: Complete Scoundrel Confusion

    Your "effective" levels would be:
    Fighter 7
    Rogue 6
    Swashbuckler 10

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    I would assume you combine them for the Swashbuckler bonuses. However, IIRC, Daring Warrior doesn't give you bonus feats, it just lets you stack Swash levels and Fighter levels for the purpose of qualifying for Fighter only feats.
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    Default Re: Complete Scoundrel Confusion

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuuk View Post
    I would assume you combine them for the Swashbuckler bonuses. However, IIRC, Daring Warrior doesn't give you bonus feats, it just lets you stack Swash levels and Fighter levels for the purpose of qualifying for Fighter only feats.
    I must have misread the feat. I'll look into it again when I have my book on hand. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marjan View Post
    Your "effective" levels would be:
    Fighter 7
    Rogue 6
    Swashbuckler 10
    Swash 10 for Dodge bonus and grace. Fighter 7 for qualifying for feats, Rogue 6 for SA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuuk View Post
    I would assume you combine them for the Swashbuckler bonuses. However, IIRC, Daring Warrior doesn't give you bonus feats, it just lets you stack Swash levels and Fighter levels for the purpose of qualifying for Fighter only feats.
    Tragic but true. This small distinction means it is a really lame feat instead of a really awesome (overpowered?) feat.
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    And a reason why I must smite someone in my group. *readies hammer*

    Actually, it wasn't for in-game, but for "duels", a bit of an optimization challenge, but still

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draz74 View Post
    Tragic but true. This small distinction means it is a really lame feat instead of a really awesome (overpowered?) feat.
    Actually it pretty much makes the feat completely worthless in my opinion. Fighter only feats are for the most part pretty weak sauce, excluding a few exceptions.
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    Is Weapon Supremacy worth it for a swash14, ftr4?
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