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2008-01-05, 07:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Gaining divine spells without losing CL
I have a sorcerer that follows Iborighu (from Frostburn). He wants to enter into the Winterhaunt of Iborighu prestige class, but I've hit a wall. He needs to be able to cast at least 1 level 1 divine spell (as a divine spell). Additionally, I want him to be able to do so without losing any of his arcane spell progression, since sorcerers are already getting their spells one level later than wizards. So I'm looking for a PrC dip, feat, holy/unholy rite that will grant me access to at least 1 first-level divine spell as a divine spell.
I can use pretty much anything as a source as long as it's published. I don't think WotC has anything for me but 3rd-party is fair game as well.On DMPCs: "Remember, nothing will spice up your campaign quicker than long descriptions of NPC’s doing spectacular stuff while the players sit around and watch." -Shamus Young, DM of the Rings
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2008-01-05, 07:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
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2008-01-05, 08:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-01-05, 08:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
I've heard of a feat called Southern Magician that might help. I don't know where it's from though.
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2008-01-05, 08:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
Its from Races of Faerun
Its described on the bottom of the page here http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rp/20040630a
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2008-01-05, 09:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
I think there is a way to trade your familliar for access to one domain (eg the healing domain).
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2008-01-05, 09:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
Southern magic seems like a good bet. Ask your DM to be sure, though.
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2008-01-05, 09:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
Woah! What did WotC take when writing that feat? An actual scaling feat in 3.5? It's a miracle!
Ein gutes Gedicht ist nicht dazu da, die Welt zu verbessern – es ist selbst ein Stück verbesserte Welt.
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2008-01-05, 11:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-01-05, 04:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
These are excellent finds, Talya; unfortunately, they don't meet the OP's requirements.
Originally Posted by Complete Divine page 20
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2008-01-05, 05:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
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2008-01-05, 05:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
Well, I can tell you how to do it without losing caster levels, but you're going to lose spell progression pretty much no matter what you do.
"Courage is the complement of fear. A fearless man cannot be courageous. He is also a fool." -- Robert Heinlein
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2008-01-05, 05:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
What about Alternative Source Spell? That doesn't cost you anything but a feat.
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2008-01-05, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
I believe that feat only allows one to prepare their arcane and divine spells across slots. That is, one would already need to be able to cast both types of spells.
I wish I`d known about domain access at 5th level. Unfortunately my character is 15th level now, so I couldn`t justify it.
I will check up on all these suggestions and talk to my DM tonight about Southern Magician. Thanks for the help, all!On DMPCs: "Remember, nothing will spice up your campaign quicker than long descriptions of NPC’s doing spectacular stuff while the players sit around and watch." -Shamus Young, DM of the Rings
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2008-01-06, 03:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
One sentence in Southern Magician makes me think it doesn't really work :
The actual source of the spell's power doesn't change, and neither does its means of preparation.
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2008-01-06, 10:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Gaining divine spells without losing CL
Yes, I think it could be interpreted that way and thought the same when I first read it. But then I thought about Ur-Priests and their ability to cast divine spells without the sanction of a deity. They still cast divine spells. As a sorcerer with this feat, one will still be casting divine spells. Whether this is enough to qualify for a prestige class that requires an ability to cast at least 1st-level divine spells would be up to a DM. I think the spirit of the feat is as you said.
My DM has agreed to allow me to take this feat (despite the regional prerequisite) and use it to qualify for Winterhaunt. So Nebo, thank you very much for calling attention to it. New1965, thank you for providing source information and the link. Everyone else, thank you for all your suggestions.On DMPCs: "Remember, nothing will spice up your campaign quicker than long descriptions of NPC’s doing spectacular stuff while the players sit around and watch." -Shamus Young, DM of the Rings
Divide By Zero: Irreverent Fool, you are my hero.