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2008-01-25, 06:37 PM (ISO 8601)Firbolg in the Playground
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How do Summons interact with Smokey Confinement?
Smokey Confinement from Complete Mage says
So if you Smokey Confinement a Summoned Creature does its duration continue to count down while under the effects of Smokey Confinement.The subject remains trapped within the focus, unaware and ageless.
My opinion is no but what do you think?People who think Tippy equals win.Spoiler
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2008-01-25, 06:56 PM (ISO 8601)Troll in the Playground
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Re: How do Summons interact with Smokey Confinement?
It says nothing about stopping time or affecting spells, the creature just does not age, so why would the duration not run out?
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2008-01-25, 07:00 PM (ISO 8601)Firbolg in the Playground
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Re: How do Summons interact with Smokey Confinement?
Because the summon is ageless. If ageless time doesn't pass for you. If time isn't passing for you then the summon shouldn't have its duration going down.
People who think Tippy equals win.Spoiler
Originally Posted by Tyndmyr
Originally Posted by Sunken Valley
Tippy=Win Originally Posted by Gavinfoxx
Originally Posted by Immabozo
Originally Posted by Mithril Leaf
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2008-01-25, 07:05 PM (ISO 8601)Troll in the Playground
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Re: How do Summons interact with Smokey Confinement?
The summon is not getting any older alright, but it says nothing about stopping time inside the focus or anywhere else in the multiverse.
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2008-01-25, 07:34 PM (ISO 8601)Firbolg in the Playground
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Re: How do Summons interact with Smokey Confinement?
The only way to not get older is for time to cease moving for you.
People who think Tippy equals win.Spoiler
Originally Posted by Tyndmyr
Originally Posted by Sunken Valley
Tippy=Win Originally Posted by Gavinfoxx
Originally Posted by Immabozo
Originally Posted by Mithril Leaf
Originally Posted by Someone who shall remain anonymous
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2008-01-25, 07:39 PM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: How do Summons interact with Smokey Confinement?
You're right, but the summon isn't brought in with an internal timer, but an external timer. The effect that brings it to this plane and keeps it here for the duration (albeit quite a short one) is separate from the summon, outside of all other effects. So it be transported back to its plane at the end of the duration.
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2008-01-25, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: How do Summons interact with Smokey Confinement?
A lot of d20s attitude towards spells is based on the rule of "If it's not explicitly stated in the description, then it probably doesn't do it."
So I'm sorry...but your attempt at creating poke-balls of delayed summoning just isn't going to work. :D
(But hey, it's not us you have to convince. It's your DM. So Godspeed!)001100010010011110100001101101110011
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2008-01-25, 08:51 PM (ISO 8601)Librarian in the Playground Moderator
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Re: How do Summons interact with Smokey Confinement?
I disagree. In the context of D&D, age and time are not necessarily always connected. Originally Posted by Emperor Tippy
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2008-01-26, 04:32 AM (ISO 8601)Troll in the Playground
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Re: How do Summons interact with Smokey Confinement?
The spell simply stops all cell degeneration keeping your body unchanged. Originally Posted by Emperor Tippy
It makes for agoodriddle.
Q: How can you (or rather your friends) celebrate your birthdays without you getting any older.
A: If you are in a Smokey Confinement (and if you are not a summoned monster).
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2008-01-26, 08:41 AM (ISO 8601)Barbarian in the Playground
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Re: How do Summons interact with Smokey Confinement?
In general, NOTHING stops summoned creatures vanishing when the summoning spell ends... this seems like a law of magic, as if the connection to the home plane is stronger than any other magic. Its stated for pretty much any kind of spell that restricts movement like Dimensional Anchor, so its unlikely that other spells would do this even if its not explicitly stated.
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