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    Firbolg in the Playground
     
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    Default Swordsage Discipline Weapon Focus

    Alright, at first level a swordsage gains the benefit of weapon focus with the signature weapons of his chosen discipline. Proficiency with the weapon is a prerequisite for the weapon focus feat. Several of the disciplines feature exotic signature weapons. Does the swordsage implicitly gain proficiency with his chosen discipline's exotic signature weapons? I ask because I'm in the midst of planning a whisper gnome Shadow Hand swordsage as a backup character in case my current character meets an untimely end, and I'd really love to give him a (Shadow Hand associated) spiked chain. I'll take the feat if I've got to take the feat, but it'd be really nice to have an extra one for something else... like combat reflexes.
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    Default Re: Swordsage Discipline Weapon Focus

    In my opinion, and by RAW, no. You get weapon focus without having the prereqs, much like a ranger can get TWF without enough dex. So, you get +1 with the weapons, but also -4, for a total of -3. Grab the proficiency feat.

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    Default Re: Swordsage Discipline Weapon Focus

    Bonus feats do not require you to meet their prerequisites unless they specifically state in them that you must meet them. Discipline Focus grants you the Weapon Focus feat with those weapons and supersedes the need to meet the prereqs.

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    Default Re: Swordsage Discipline Weapon Focus

    I didn't think it could possibly be that easy. There goes the uberbuild. I can still have fun with it, though... I'm finding myself almost hoping my current character dies at some point...
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    Default Re: Swordsage Discipline Weapon Focus

    Quote Originally Posted by Ascension View Post
    I didn't think it could possibly be that easy. There goes the uberbuild. I can still have fun with it, though... I'm finding myself almost hoping my current character dies at some point...
    Everyone does this, don't worry. I actually recommend that everyone have a second character they are excited about - just make sure not to get more attached to the gnome than you are to your current guy.

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