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    Default Maneuver Paladin: Need help balancing

    Pretty simple thing here, but I'd like some help determining if it's balanced or not.

    I'd like a Paladin/Crusader hybrid class for flavor reasons, and was wondering if dropping spells, Detect Evil, Turn Undead and Remove Disease from the notoriously weak Paladin would justify adding in either the Crusader's Maneuver progression or the Warblade's Maneuver progression, with White Raven, Devoted Spirit, and Stone Dragon as the schools.

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    Default Re: Maneuver Paladin: Need help balancing

    Drop the spells and the turning... maybe.

    Detect Evil and Smite Evil?! Most definitely not! I, for one, stand by the old paladin.
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    Default Re: Maneuver Paladin: Need help balancing

    Drop the crusader's steely resolve, and give him the paladin's detect/smite evil, lay-on-hands, and divine grace. I think that wouldn't be too unbalancing.
    The rest (spellcasting, aura of courage, divine health, cure disease, and specially special mount) would make it a bit overpowered.
    That's my opinion, of course, I'm not too experienced with class balance.

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    Default Re: Maneuver Paladin: Need help balancing

    Hmmm...what would I need to do to get Special Mount in there? That's largely what I was aiming for.

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    Default Re: Maneuver Paladin: Need help balancing

    Hmmm... whatsay put in just one or two maneuvres and then put in the special mount?

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    Default Re: Maneuver Paladin: Need help balancing

    put in demented one's twin spirit discipline, and if you can't squeeze a special mount into the class itself, take the favored mount feat that demented one created for the discipline.

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