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    Default Item of +ride skill?

    A party member dwarf paladin of mine just realized how useful a mount could be (after fighting a mounted blackguard.) We're about to hit level 15. I've told him he should stick all his skill points for 15 (a paltry 3) into ride, and his feat into mounted combat. At 15, his paladin mount will be maxed out for effectiveness...but he'll still suck at it with 3 ranks and a dex of 10. Any items which could help here?

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    There are the riding boots which give you a plus 5 to ride checks in combat, and also give you the ride by attack feat, and the final use will not be much use to your paladin but it with spirited charge it increases the crit multiplier of a lance from x3 to x4, and the battle bridle which give another +5 and grants mounted combat or ride by attack if you already have mounted combat,

    but to be really effective on a mount your need spirited charge then when the paladin charges, power attacks for full and smites he can do a minimum of 93 damage with a lance (not including stregth), 134 if he casts rhino rush before he charges.
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    Default Re: Item of +ride skill?

    There's always a Masterwork Tool (+2)

    Or a Saddle (+2, may stack with the tool. Check with your DM)

    I can't find it at the moment, but there are rules somewhere for creating a magic item with +X to a skill.

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    Default Re: Item of +ride skill?

    You can get masterwork items that give a +2 to a particular skill. Something like Masterwork Riding Gear or some other generic name would give you a +2 on your ride checks when using it.
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    Default Re: Item of +ride skill?

    You could make an item using the item creation rules.

    Saddle of Riding
    This finely crafted saddle seems to give the rider a better sense of balance
    When used it gives a +5 competence bonus to Ride checks

    Faint Transmutation CL 3rd; Craft Wondrous Item, cat's grace; Price 2,500 gp; Weight 30 lb.

    Or if it fits better:

    Paste of Riding
    When applied to the seat of a saddle it gives a +5 competence bonus to Ride checks
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    Default Re: Item of +ride skill?

    I would say a saddle of riding would count as a belt and back space magic item for a horse. You might try spurs.
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    Default Re: Item of +ride skill?

    On a similar note, what should be the requirements to craft an item (possible Third Eye or Goggles) of +15 spellcraft? I don't know what spell would be needed. Fox's Cunning? Arcane Sight?

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    Default Re: Item of +ride skill?

    According to the SRD, you can get an item with a +X competence bonus to a skill for "bonus squared x 100."

    So, you can get a +20 to ride for something like 40,000gp. I think someone said at some point that +30 is the highest you can get non-epic, so that's 90,000gp.

    (Assuming my math and understanding of item creation rules are both correct, anyway.)


    EDIT: Is there a "Pants" item slot? Because I guess that could work. If not, maybe feet or something (spurs of amazing riding) or possibly slotless (reins of riding) though that costs more.
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    EDIT: Is there a "Pants" item slot? Because I guess that could work.
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    However, I'd say reins or a bridle would take the "face" slot on your mount (usually called goggles, but masks from FR count, so I'd say a bridle would fit there).
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    Default Re: Item of +ride skill?

    I believe there's a conventional "War Saddle" that not only gives a bonus of higher than +2 to ride skill, but also additional benefits. There's magic items as well that could be used to improve it beyond the traditional. In general, check out all your book's equipments sections for any mention of riding gear, and the MIC especially. Check the Arms & Equipment guide, they should have something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtg0922 View Post
    EDIT: Is there a "Pants" item slot? Because I guess that could work. If not, maybe feet or something (spurs of amazing riding) or possibly slotless (reins of riding) though that costs more.
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    Default Re: Item of +ride skill?

    I swear there's a magic saddle in A&EG that gives +10 to ride, but I've never been able to find it after the first time. That being said, aren't +10 bonus items 10,000gp? Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm sure there's set cost for a +10 bonus. The saddle would, of course, take up a slot on the horse. I think if you're just trying to boost your ride check, that's easiest, cheapest(at level 15) way to do so, and you'll be able to do everything except fast mount/dismount on a roll of two or greater, and won't have to roll for all the things you normally do with your horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlterForm View Post
    There's always a Masterwork Tool (+2)

    Or a Saddle (+2, may stack with the tool. Check with your DM)
    No, it definitely doesn't. They're both circumstance bonuses, and circumstance bonuses don't stack. I suspect you'll have a hard time convincing your DM to houserule otherwise, but per RAW, it's very clear they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquillion View Post
    No, it definitely doesn't. They're both circumstance bonuses, and circumstance bonuses don't stack. I suspect you'll have a hard time convincing your DM to houserule otherwise, but per RAW, it's very clear they don't.
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    A circumstance bonus (or penalty) arises from specific conditional factors impacting the success of the task at hand. Circumstance bonuses stack with all other bonuses, including other circumstance bonuses, unless they arise from essentially the same source.
    As long as your "Masterwork Tool" isn't a saddle, then you'd have a hard time convincing your DM that they don't stack. Call it a masterwork set of spurs, a masterwork riding crop, or anything like that and you're fine.
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    Default Re: Item of +ride skill?

    Another option might be to see if your DM will allow him to retrain. Stop by some great rider/trainer and have him give the paladin some pointers for an appropriate fee. Then, of course, pull skill points from elsewhere to give Ride a boost.

    It might be the cheapest cashwise, and the most permanent, but it will cost him from his other skills.
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