Simulate this in Dnd.

[Xyk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSt_6...eature=related

Is there any way to simulate this in Dnd if we used say a whip dagger so you can actually kill things? Any feats? PrCs? Maneuvers?

[tyckspoon]

A whip dagger or a meteor hammer and Perform (Weapon Drill). There's not much in that video that would suggest anything other than showing off with the weapon.

[sonofzeal]

Looks like a Rope Dart to me, and those already exist in D&D (but I lack the book). Or you could just call it a Spiked Chain that deals Bludgeoning.

[Xyk]

I mean with a whip-dagger you would generally fight like it's a whip with snapping and cracking it. I would love to play someone who did that as a fighting style and killed people with similar movements. If that guy had a rope with a knife at the end, he would be more or less unstoppable in melee.

[Chronos]

A whip dagger or a meteor hammer and Perform (Weapon Drill).

I would have called it Perform (kata), but either way, what we're seeing there is primarily for show. I wouldn't want to get on that fellow's bad side in a dark alley, but there's a difference between looking awesome without an opponent and being awesome with an opponent.

[Xyk]

I would have called it Perform (kata), but either way, what we're seeing there is primarily for show. I wouldn't want to get on that fellow's bad side in a dark alley, but there's a difference between looking awesome without an opponent and being awesome with an opponent.

Well, yeah, but is there a way to simulate the style and make it into a killing machine?

[sonofzeal]

I mean with a whip-dagger you would generally fight like it's a whip with snapping and cracking it. I would love to play someone who did that as a fighting style and killed people with similar movements. If that guy had a rope with a knife at the end, he would be more or less unstoppable in melee.

That all comes down to flavourtext. I mean, there's all sorts of elaborate things you can do with a sword, but in D&D they almost all come down to making an attack roll vs his AC. Still, if you want to picture/describe your character doing all sorts of awesomeness, more power to you.

But yeah, stat-wise go with a Rope Dart or Spiked Chain and call it a day.

[NEO|Phyte]

I would have called it Perform (kata), but either way, what we're seeing there is primarily for show.

He probably went with Perform (weapon drill) because there's actually rules for what that entails (you get bonuses for every feat you have for that weapon, etc.)

[TheThan]

It’s a rope dart, they have stats for it in dragon magazine 319.

[Squash Monster]

Other than all the acrobatics, it looks like a set of moves designed to keep opponents at bay. Which works nicely, since Rope Dart or Meteor Hammer work stupidly well for lockdown builds.

This one is the classic lockdown build, it would turn your Meteor Hammer into 30' radius deadzone. Unfortunately, it doesn't mature until level 16.
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=883706

This one probably fits the concept a little better, and is playable at level 8. However, I don't know the details too well and thus am not as sure it works with Rope Dart.
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=953434

[Animefunkmaster]

I noticed some TWF too... so: OA's Chain would do the trick, me thinks.

[GoC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSt_6...eature=related

Is there any way to simulate this in Dnd if we used say a whip dagger so you can actually kill things?

There's no way to simulate it in real life so that it kills things. Pretty much anyone armed or armored could kill that dude. Hey, give me fullplate armor and I'll do it!

[Thoughtbot360]

There's no way to simulate it in real life so that it kills things. Pretty much anyone armed or armored could kill that dude. Hey, give me fullplate armor and I'll do it!

Well yes and no.

He's using a flexible chain weapon. These types of weapons can have superb speed and reach at the same time. But what's important is that he was spinning the chain around in air. He wasn't hitting a target 100 times while keeping up his continuous spinning pattern.

Indeed, unless you slice your opponent with the very tip of your weapon, dealing a paper cut-deep wound with every "hit", you cannot keep it that fluid. Something happens if too much of the . A little thing called "Recoil."

Recoil will at best, interfere and slow down the whirling of the chain, but with proper training, a skilled warrior whose actually using the chain whip for combat will simply 1) focus more on sending the momentum away from him during the moments, 2) End the spinning at the moment he hits the opponent, letting the opponent soak up all that kinetic energy, and then reseting the whirling pattern. 3) Grab or trip his opponent with the lenth of chain, 4) throw the heavy end (if he's using say, a Ball and Chain) at the opponent, then pull the weapon back to him by the chain.

Flexible weapons of all kinds can be very dangerous. *If* they are wielded by someone who knows how to use them as weapons.

Its important to know that what that guy was doing in the video has no combat application (Well, he can parry blows while spinning that thing, but then remember, recoil). What he was doing was a warm-up for serious fighting with the chain whip at best, and just a show at worse.

So yes, you can "simulate that in D&D." Make a perform check with Dex instead of Charisma. And no, not just "anyone armed or armored" can kill that dude. Assuming he really is a martial artist and not a rhythmic gymnast.

[Xyk]

Howabout a decent chain fighter then. It is clear that the guy in the video was doing a show but how about this? it shows a meteor hammer as an actual weapon. Would this just be the meteor hammer from the dragon mag and an exotic weapon master?