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    Default Twin Spell still means only one attack roll?

    If you use Twin Spell on a ranged attack spell, you still only roll one attack roll (and use that roll for both intances of the attack)?

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    Default Re: Twin Spell still means only one attack roll?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
    If you use Twin Spell on a ranged attack spell, you still only roll one attack roll (and use that roll for both intances of the attack)?
    No, you roll one attack roll for each version of the spell. It's like a second casting.

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    Default Re: Twin Spell still means only one attack roll?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reel On, Love View Post
    No, you roll one attack roll for each version of the spell. It's like a second casting.
    I don't think you're correct...

    "Any variable characteristics (including attack rolls) or decisions you make (including target and area), are applied to both spells, with affected creatures receiving all effects of each spells individually (including getting two saving throws, if applicable)."

    The bolded section clearly states you get one attack roll, and if you hit then the spell takes effect twice.

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    Default Re: Twin Spell still means only one attack roll?

    But it says: Any variable characteristics (including attack rolls) or decisions you would make about the spell (including target and area), are applied to both spells.

    I'm trying to decide whether that means one attack roll, or 2 attack rolls that both benefit from True Strike.

    edit: ninja'ed!
    Last edited by Frosty; 2008-03-26 at 10:47 PM.

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    Default Re: Twin Spell still means only one attack roll?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reel On, Love View Post
    No, you roll one attack roll for each version of the spell. It's like a second casting.
    Incorrect. It's 1 attack roll that applies to both spells. Split Ray requires a second attack roll though.
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    Default Re: Twin Spell still means only one attack roll?

    So True Strike would only affect one of my split rays?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodbyeSoberDay View Post
    So True Strike would only affect one of my split rays?
    So it would seem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoodbyeSoberDay View Post
    So True Strike would only affect one of my split rays?
    But benefits my twin orbs! Wait, that sounded less pervy in my head

    Anyhow, you should prepare Sure Strike instead. I think that actually affects every attack that round? Or am I wrong?

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    Default Re: Twin Spell still means only one attack roll?

    Twin Ray means two attack rolls, so only one is affected by True Strike. If you're looking to improve your RTA, you could do the following:

    Moment of Prescience gives a bonus to one attack, that you can use at any time. So True Strike the first one, and MoP the second.

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    Try using something to drop their touch AC:

    Use a Hold Person/Hold Monster if they have a poor Will save

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    Default Re: Twin Spell still means only one attack roll?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShneekeyTheLost View Post
    Twin Ray means two attack rolls, so only one is affected by True Strike.
    Again, incorrect. Split is 2 attack rolls, and 2 damage rolls. Twin is 1 roll for each random aspect of the spell (attack, damage, etc.) that is applied twice.
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    Default Re: Twin Spell still means only one attack roll?

    There is no such thing as Twin Ray. There is Twin Spell, which is +4 adjustment.

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    Default Re: Twin Spell still means only one attack roll?

    I think you would need two attack rolls with Twin spell, only 1 with Repeat though.
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