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    Default Whats the range on permanency?

    The spell permanency lists a range of See Text and has no range information in the text. So what is the range?
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    Default Re: Whats the range on permanency?

    Depends on the spell it's being applied to, it's always been a special case that alters anouther spell rather than stands alone so just use whatever details you have to of the focus spell and fudge the question marks.
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    Default Re: Whats the range on permanency?

    Probably the range of the spell you're applying permanency to.

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    Default Re: Whats the range on permanency?

    To quote the spell:
    You cast the desired spell and then follow it with the permanency spell.
    So I'd assume permanency has a range equal to whatever spell you're casting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mostlyharmful View Post
    Depends on the spell it's being applied to, it's always been a special case that alters anouther spell rather than stands alone so just use whatever details you have to of the focus spell and fudge the question marks.
    You sure? And if so, sweet. It's a valid target for Chain Spell. Pay the XP cost once and get 20 permanencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Tippy View Post
    You sure? And if so, sweet. It's a valid target for Chain Spell. Pay the XP cost once and get 20 permanencies.
    Yes. Chain is just that dumb ass thought out at times. Ok, If I were a DM rocks would fall but RAW yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mostlyharmful View Post
    Yes. Chain is just that dumb ass thought out at times. Ok, If I were a DM rocks would fall but RAW yes.
    Too bad you can't chain wish.
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    Default Re: Whats the range on permanency?

    I'm not certain that Chain would work, though... As I read it, you have to cast the Permanency immediately after the spell to be affected. So if you cast, say, Arcane Sight on yourself, and then Reduce Person, it's too late to permanency the Arcane Sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Tippy View Post
    Too bad you can't chain wish.
    Says who? Archmage High Arcana Reach+Rod of Chain=+5 to all of your teammate's stats.

    And falling rocks, but eh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
    I'm not certain that Chain would work, though... As I read it, you have to cast the Permanency immediately after the spell to be affected. So if you cast, say, Arcane Sight on yourself, and then Reduce Person, it's too late to permanency the Arcane Sight.
    And what exactly does that have to do with casting a Chained X followed by a Chained Permanency?

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    Default Re: Whats the range on permanency?

    Ah, OK, I was thinking trying to put multiple buffs on yourself, not putting one buff on everyone in your party. That should work.

    What happens if one of the Permanencies gets dispelled? Are they all one spell (and thus the others are dispelled, too), or many?
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