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Thread: How do you abuse polymorph?
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Re: How do you abuse polymorph?
Shapechange gives Supernatural abilities. Look up the barghest. Read the Feed ability description. That should explain how broken that spell is, as currently written.
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/barghest.htm
Link to barghest.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/arch/rg
See the entries on Polymorph.Last edited by Nemoricus; 2008-04-14 at 07:39 PM.
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Re: How do you abuse polymorph?
How do you abuse polymorph?
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Re: How do you abuse polymorph?
"How do I burn things with fire?"
This is basically what your question equates to.
Think of all the creatures you've ever seen in a book, core or splat.
Think of all the abilities applicable through the spell.
Compare, optimize.
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Re: How do you abuse polymorph?
One of the less broken ways to abuse Shapechange is to become a balor. Since the balor's vorpal sword is an (Su) ability, you automatically get one.
Depending on your DM, there's the Titan Gate chain, Tippy's "Gaterape" (ugh) trick, and a lot of other horrid, horrid things.
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That was gonna be my answer.
Seriously, though, alter self can give you, depending on your type, obscene natural armor bonuses and flight, way before other spells can give you the same, or perhaps even more broken stuff.
Polymorph and the rest of the higher-level spells (and especially shapechange) give you access to even more and better abilities, all for the low, low price of... casting a spell.The Playgrounder Formerly Known as rtg0922
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A sweet sack of valencia oranges... shows 'em who's boss and won't leave a mark...
Bonus points to anyone who actually gets the reference.
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PAO gives you mental stats, so try a Great Wyrm Gold Dragon.
For shapechange there almost isn't any way to use it that isn't broken. Try Zodar with a supernatural wish, or Golems for immunity to magic and Abbominations for ridiculous uberness or Sarruck to be Pun-Pun
Alter Self if you're an outsider becomes a whole lot easier, short of that you just have every movement type available or humoungous NA bonuses and physical stat bonuses. Oh, and more stealth than the rogue...
Polymorph is best served in Treant form in core if you want to go Gish, otherwise you want to look at forms that combine continued casting with alternate movement rates, boosts to stats, AC boosts, attack forms, in some cases extra actions, funky Ex attacks like web or whathaveyou, etc.....
this line of spells comes out of the box as borked as you could ever want. I ban them in every game and never use them if I'm playing a caster in someone elses game, they just make it no fun..Give them bread and circusses and the plebs wont rise against you. Give adventurers dungeons and trapped chests and they won't waste time looking to ransack your home and kill your wife.
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Alter self is mostly fine IF not an outsider. I tend to ban polymorph though.Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
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+8 Natural Armor if you can use the Tren (Serpent Kingdoms. You may also know Serpent Kingdoms from such movies as Pun-Pun Goes To Camp.) It's a Troglodyte on steroids, basically.
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how do you not abuse polymorph. You just can't resist it, there isn't any groups to pervent you from doing it
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Gaterape is when you gate in a creature and then Mind Rape it. Thats the bare bones, everything else is just stuff to get the creature gated in or back to you afterwards.
If you gaterape Great Wyrm Prismatic Dragons then you get to mess around with epic magic. Once you get that its all over. You can give yourself the Ex ability to create a star at will as a standard action. Or an entire solar system if you are so inclined.
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PAA: Polymorph abusers anonymous. Found yourself out twinking red mage? Reading to much Emperor Tippy*? Then the PAA is here for you!
*: Mentioning Tippy in posts about powergaming is nigh required.Last edited by Moff Chumley; 2008-04-14 at 10:22 PM.
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Wasn't that from that episode of Family Guy?
Back on topic...
Now this is just off the top of my head...
Alter Self: Swim Speed, Flight, Burrowing, Skill Bonuses, Natural Armor.
Polymorph: The above + Physical Stats, Extraordinary Abilities, Bigger list of things to change into.
Shape Change: The above + Bigger list of things to change into, Supernatural Abilities, able to change into a different creature during the spell.
Polymorph any object: Pebble to Solar/ Dragon/ Phoenix/ Golem/ Expendable Soldier/ etc, YOURSELF to Solar/ Dragon/ etc.
Edit: Ninja'd. Accursed slow posting.
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I'm ok with those things. Fly is overpriced anyways.Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
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I haev to come clean, i've been abusting polymorph for ages. It normally happens when i'm drunk, and have come home from a long day of work, but i then lash out at polly spells and horrible aburse them. I take advantage of their innate lack of protect against my powergaming might. It is simply sick what i make Polymorph do when i abuse it ,but by the end of the night nobody even takes it serously. It is ashamed and refuses to come out of the house.
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TLN and Bears with Lasers were the same person. And he is still around with yet another account (his 4th I believe).
Fax, Karsh, Jack Manycoats, and a few others on these boards are all at my level in general optimizing skill. I can do wizards real well and the rest of it when I put my mind to it and get out my books.
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And I don't really abuse Polymorph. The only one I ever bother with is Shapechange and unless I'm going for Zodar cheese I generally hang around as a Shadesteel Golem.
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And that doesn't even acount for all the world leaders who supported them without technically gettign involved.
you know who you are
you communists
yeah, most likely, he is waiting to strike the moment we turn out back, ready to lash out and destroy us with his ability to understand the system.
I can't wait until 4E so i can see it get dismantled by you lot
Fax, Karsh, Jack Manycoats, and a few others on these boards are all at my level in general optimizing skill. I can do wizards real well and the rest of it when I put my mind to it and get out my books.
And I don't really abuse Polymorph. The only one I ever bother with is Shapechange and unless I'm going for Zodar cheese I generally hang around as a Shadesteel Golem.
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I'm sure they do.
yeah, most likely, he is waiting to strike the moment we turn out back, ready to lash out and destroy us with his ability to understand the system.
I can't wait until 4E so i can see it get dismantled by you lot
Don't be modest
We all abuse polymorph. Even when we don't need to, we do it for the sheer thrill of it
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The bookkeeping with the polymorph line is just to much work for me.Last edited by Emperor Tippy; 2008-04-14 at 11:16 PM.
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