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    Ogre in the Playground
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
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    Akron
    Gender
    Male

    Default Armies of Darkness - Dread Necro vs. Horned Harbinger

    I've been doing a lot of thinking about the many ways of building an undead legion master. HH seems really cool and offers a lot of nifty abilities which help offset the loss of casting anything that isn't animate dead (bonus feats like no one's business and up to 4/day animate dead). I decided to run some numbers...

    DN = Dread Necro 20
    HH = Cleric 10/Harbinger 10
    Cha = Charisma mod

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    Round 1: Animate Dead (Horned Harbinger)

    HD for DN = 20 * (4 + Cha)
    HD for HH = 10 * (20 + Cha)

    For Cha < +12, the HH beats out DN!
    +0: DN = 80, HH = 200
    +3: DN = 140, HH = 230
    +6: DN = 200, HH = 260
    +9: DN = 260, HH = 290
    +12: DN = 320, HH = 320

    (If the HH has Evil domain, Cha < +13 now. Though DN could take Arcane Thesis to counter and make it Cha < +11.5ish, or Cha < 9.5ish without Evil domain...)

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    Round 2: Rebuke (Horned Harbinger)

    HD to command:
    DN = 20 HD
    HH = 100 HD

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    Round 3: Control Undead spell (Dread Necro)

    DN = 20*(2 + Cha) HD
    HH = 20 HD

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    Adding It Up:

    Rebuke + Animate ->> If Cha < +20, HH wins in HD; Charisma 49-50.
    (HH beats DN by 200 - 10 * Cha until then)

    Rebuke + Animate + Control ->> If Cha < +6, HH wins in HD; Charisma 22).
    (HH beats DN by 180 - 30 * Cha until then)

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    I'm tempted to go Cloistered Cleric 10/Harbinger 10 (domains: Know, Death, Deathbound, Undeath)... And bring along a rod of undead mastery for x2 HD.
    Last edited by Maerok; 2008-05-15 at 08:45 PM.

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