OOTS #570 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Ashtar]

Wonderful twist!

[Aurorax]

Doh would have thought that the memory spell would go away with the oracle's death.

[banjo1985]

Nice. I'd forgotten about the memory wipe at the edge of the Oracles territory, guess Belkar just lucked out!

I guess it must be a permanent effect, or it would have faded with the Oracle.

[Sjiggie]

Love the memory loss spell. Nice comic

[sikyon]

Argh! should have seen that comming!

[dogmac]

Poor Haley. So near and yet so far......

I liked her forthrightness there very very much.

[Glorfindel]

Nice comic :) I wonder who's gonna tell them it is already activated.

P.S. the comic is #570, not #470.

[Estelindis]

Harsh! From the Giant's point of view, that's a clever way of keeping Belkar in the party while still showing that Haley would have booted him out in the kind of circumstance that really showed him not to be an asset to the group. Good comic!

[FMArthur]

Damn, that memory wipe caught me without warning. Completely forgot about it. Too bad Belkar didn't get tossed out of the party or even remember how close he came.

[Haleyintraining]

Even if Haley, Belkar, and Celia don't remember what happened, I don't think the memory spell would wipe Roy's mind, because he is dead. So my prediction is after he gets raised he tells Haley and she is either shocked or angry. Also, can the mark of justice be activated again, or is it a one time thing?

[InfiniteMiller]

Gah! So CLOSE!

Nex time Belkar! NEXT TIME!

[Haruspex]

That memory charm saved Belkar's membership and probably his life. Wonder how long he can last like that? It's even worse since now they don't know why he's puking. Nice to see that Mr. Scruffy hopped out of the cart to join him. Who says cat's aren't loyal?

This also means that no one will know that the oracle is dead unless the information can be acquired from outside the valley. Don't think the oracle cares though (he's dead).

[Blackdrop]

I like how Belkar got upset that they were going to leave them behind. It's a cool view into Belkar's mindset.

[Kwarkpudding]

Nice, loved it.
Yes, I hope Roy at least remembers it, because it would have been an even bigger waste of time.

And it's good to see that Haley doesn't take everything from Belkar, even though she forgot it afterwarths

[Mc. Lovin']

Uh Oh! How long will it take Belkar to figure out taht the MOJ has been activated? He doesnt know he needs a cleric

And will Roy's memory get wiped when he leaves the valley, to go back to the afterlife?

[Zolem]

How did all you people forget the memeory wipe? It was rementioned not even 5 comics ago? I totaly saw this entire episode comeing. The good news is, Belkar won't get better, and since it's a MoJ, Clerics can tell (spell description) and will refuse to heal him.

[Fenix]

Deja vu again :)

[technoextreme]

Poor Haley. So near and yet so far......

I liked her forthrightness there very very much.

The more I thought about the more I think Belkar did Haley a favor. He was responsible for more deaths than Belkar and basically screwed the Order of the Stick Over.

[Manga Shoggoth]

Ooooh. I like.

All the more because there is a veritable * storm at work today. Oh, for a memory charm in our office...

[Incendius]

The more I thought about the more I think Belkar did Haley a favor. He was responsible for more deaths than Belkar and basically screwed the Order of the Stick Over.

No, he screwed Belkar over.

He even tried to tell Roy that he was asking the wrong question, so as to tell him to go defend Azure city.

I'm betting that based on that scene he probably can't just tell someone the future, it has to be from a question, and Roy simply asked a question he couldn't actually help with.

Everyone else asked inane questions really, and honestly, in my place, I would have answered them as he did.

[BenjCano]

No, he screwed Belkar over.
Everyone else asked inane questions really, and honestly, in my place, I would have answered them as he did.

In fairness, Haley's question was awfully pertinent.

[Swordguy]

D'oh!

So VERY close!

What'll be funny is when Roy gets rezzed and hassles Belkar about the MoJ activating, and Belkar not having any idea what he's talking about.


...for that matter, we can't assume Roy isn't there watching and listening when Haley kicks Belkar out. He was there, and we haven't seen him return to the afterlife. I wonder if he'll want it to stick once he gets un-dead-ed.

[technoextreme]

He even tried to tell Roy that he was asking the wrong question, so as to tell him to go defend Azure city.

It takes a special sort of moral ambiguity to do that. And one would be sent to jail for murder if one claimed that.

[Yendor]

Damn you, reset button! We almost had him!

Nice to see Haley taking charge temporarily. And Celia not showing him any sympathy either.

Also, totally called the costume change.

[Ninja]

Damn you, reset button! We almost had him!

oh come on dont be so hard on "Death's Li'l Helper"..... he's the one that makes me laugh the most.... killin' that gnome.. hillarious... and for this comic... meh... nothin special... it just showed us that "The Belkster" is gonna be here for a long time...

[elonin]

Great comic, Giant. The memory affecting spelll was great for letting Haley vent on Belkar without actually have them break up. It's going to suck for anyone who goes to visit the oracle in the future. Unless there were oracles in training.

[Caractacus]

It takes a special sort of moral ambiguity to do that. And one would be sent to jail for murder if one claimed that.

I disagree. He isn't supposed to actively help everyone - and he's supposed to be an evil kobold with powers from Tiamat.

Like ALL oracles ever mentioned, he gives true answers to the exact questions asked. He is in a special trance for that moment and can only answer what he is asked. Given that he IS a kobold and evil etc, I think he was remarkably straight with the Oots.

Also, HE killed no one. He told Belkar that he would cause the death of one (or more) of a number of the people Belkar listed. Belkar is the morally ambiguous one here.

Oh, wait, no he isn't..

[ref]

Dang, so close. Belkar should have been left there to die a painful death. Oh well.

[Blaznak]

Oh! too funny! I loved it!
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