4.5e?

[Ned the undead]

I know it's way early, but what do think they might add/fix/remove/improve/elaborate on in 4.5 edtion?

[Deepblue706]

4.5E is obviously going to be a beach ball.

[TheOOB]

WotC is quoted as saying there won't be a 4.5...

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

No, no...I think Deepblue is right. 4.5 is a beach ball.

Here's a sneak preview:

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Of course, in the actual 4.5 Player's Handbook, each segment will be a different color, although there will be later splatbooks that allow for a variety of alternating colors or additional color choices.

I've also heard rumors of a third party release of Topless Beach Volleyball: Get the most out of your 18 Charisma, but that could just be hearsay.

[Hallavast]

WotC is quoted as saying there won't be a 4.5...

WotC says a lot of things. However, I will concede that the 4.5 will not be labeled "4.5".

Here's a sneak preview: . . . .

Intruiging...

[EvilElitest]

IF it does come out, it will take at least five years before the need is great enough for WotC to care
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[The Necroswanso]

I doubt there will be. What with all the online stuff they're working on, and having posted erratta what, a week after release..... I don't see it. It would be just..... bad on every scale.

[Hallavast]

It would be just..... bad on every scale.

I agree. However, I don't really see why this will deter them. I mean, you could say something about their responsibility to their shareholders and doing something like that would be bad for business in the long run, but I think a lot of people who go out and buy new books from WotC don't really care that they don't need the new books. I look at WotC's business model in the past about things like D&D minis and MtG, and I could very well see them publishing a new set of core books for 4e and not calling them 4.5. It's rather easy to justify if you don't think about it. For example, they might argue something to the effect of "well not everyone subscribes to our online content anyway... so why not 'reach out' to those players who don't". Or something like that.

[JadedDM]

WotC was also quoted that there were no plans at all for a fourth edition, as early as three months before they announced the release date of 4E.

[Crow]

WotC was also quoted that there were no plans at all for a fourth edition, as early as three months before they announced the release date of 4E.

I was waiting for somebody to mention this. I didn't want to be the one. Personally, I can't wait to see 4.5.

[Kurald Galain]

WotC is quoted as saying there won't be a 4.5...

WOTC is also quoted as saying that 4E would end world hunger.

You're going to believe everything people say?

[marjan]

WOTC is also quoted as saying that 4E would end world hunger.

You're going to believe everything people say?

Are you hungry?

[Kurald Galain]

Are you hungry?

Now that you mention it, no!

Lisa, I want to buy your rock.

[EvilElitest]

WOTC is also quoted as saying that 4E would end world hunger.

You're going to believe everything people say?

They also promised taht 3.5 would fix all the problems with 3E
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[Bayar]

WotC is quoted as saying there won't be a 4.5...

So, they will release 5th edition instead, right ?

[Daosus]

I think 4.5 is up in the air. Not really because I trust WotC to follow through on their promise of no 4.5 (and really, they could release 4Ev2 or 4.6 or whatever), but because I think their model of releasing core rulebooks every year somewhat precludes the need to release constant upgrades. Then again, I wouldn't put it past some of the corporate types to release 4.thisonesawesomereally at the least opportune time.

[Vortling]

There won't be any 4.5, at least not by that name. Their release schedule simply won't work for it. The point of a PHB, DMG and MM a year is twofold. Keep the money rolling in and prevent any need for a 4.5. If they find an issue it will either be errata'd or they'll include the fix in PHBX.

[Moff Chumley]

Gamers are quoted as being constant kvetchers.

[Magnificence]

4.5 is coming out in 2012, tieflings will be replaced by half-gremlins and the elf with be seperated into thirty sub-races.

[JaxGaret]

Saying that each progressive yearly release of PHB/DMG/MM's nomenclature is 4.1, 4.2, etc., 4.5e will be released in 2013, and will include the Groovy, Awesome, and Emo power sources.

[drawingfreak]

Honestly. Is the game that different from 3.5 that some of you just won't except it?

I think that the fact that they are trying something different is gutsy and honorable. I see a lot of promise in 4E. Now, having yet to play it (because all of my friends are away on vacation ), my opinion should only be taken half-heartedly.

[Kurald Galain]

Honestly. Is the game that different from 3.5 that some of you just won't except it?

Wrong thread, dude. This is about whether or not there will be a 4.5, not whether or not people "except" 4.0.

Aside from that, I'd love to see the Emo power source

[Crow]

So with each new PHB, DMG, and MM will they be appending new material onto the old stuff, or do these books "stand alone"? Meaning: If I stay with what is supposedly 'Core' (not to be confused with the 'Basic', 3 books), am I still going to be reduced to thumbing through 9 different books in two years' time? Or will it still be consolidated in 3 books?

[KillianHawkeye]

I don't think they'll be reprinting all the current material in every future PHB and DMG and MM. That would be crazy.

WotC was also quoted that there were no plans at all for a fourth edition, as early as three months before they announced the release date of 4E.

This just sounds like plain marketing disinformation to me. As in, they weren't ready for people to know about it yet, so it was their policy to completely deny any knowledge until the official announcement. There's nothing wrong with that. (Everybody's doing it. C'mon, you know you want to! )

[Kurald Galain]

There's nothing wrong with that. (Everybody's doing it. C'mon, you know you want to! )

I'm not denying anything!!! No!!!

[JaxGaret]

Aside from that, I'd love to see the Emo power source

Pre-4.5e, you can take a look at the proto-Emo power source in the 4.1 PHB: Shadow.

[Daosus]

This just sounds like plain marketing disinformation to me. As in, they weren't ready for people to know about it yet, so it was their policy to completely deny any knowledge until the official announcement. There's nothing wrong with that. (Everybody's doing it. C'mon, you know you want to! )

Yes, and telling people that there won't be 4.5 could also be marketing. Seriously, would you buy into 4E if you knew that you'd have to re-buy the books soon(tm)? For some people that would be a dealbreaker. Of course, I'm not saying anything beyond that "it was just marketing" is a terrible excuse. First off, it was not "marketing" it was a lie, regardless of how you sugar coat it. Second off, they'd keep saying that there isn't going to be 4.5 even if they're planning it, so it really doesn't matter what Wizards says.

[Avor]

WOTC will do exactly what GW did with 40k, put out a new set of rules that pisses everybody off, wiat 2-3 years, and put out a new edition as a cash grab. They can't force vetern players to buy more extras, but they can force them to buy the core rule book.

[Collin152]

4.5?
No.
4.01. Followed by 4.02.
Tune in monthly for your new edition revision.

[erikun]

Well, first they need to release PHB2. And MM2. And the martial, divine, arcane, nature, shadow, psi, ki, and elemental sourcebooks. And the 4e sourcebooks for Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk, Erberron, and anything else that will sell. Once they have sold out released those supplements, then they can work on releasing 4.5e.