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2008-07-08, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
If you could have a +1 LA race for free as you wish to cr eate an Int-based character like Factotum, Wizard, Beguiler, Duskblade, etc, which race would you pick? Tiefling is the only +int character I could think of off the top of my head.
On a side note, is there a level 4 or lower spell that can let me fly for 10 min/level or hours/level that is not Alter Self?
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2008-07-08, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
Wispling.
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2008-07-08, 04:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
Flight of the Dragon, 4th level, from the spell compendium. 10 min/lvl, and gives you fly 100 ft. (average). If you didn't want alter self because it required growing wings, this won't help you, otherwise, hopefully it's something like what you're looking for.
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2008-07-08, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
Well, the big advantage of going Tiefling is being an Outsider. If you can get Templates instead see if you can get Fire-Souled (DR 314) for immunity to Daze and Stun for Born of Three Thunders fun.
+Int races include:
0 LA
Deep Imaskari (Underdark)
Fire Elf (UA variant)
Gray Elf (Monster Manual)
Exiled Modron (DR 354)
+1 LA
Sharakim (Races of Destiny)
Ghost Elf (DR 313)
Fire Hobgoblin (UA variant)
Tiefling (Races of Destiny)
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2008-07-08, 04:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-07-08, 04:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-07-08, 05:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
Are Elf sub levels that good? Wizard is not bad I guess, being a generalist.
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2008-07-08, 05:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
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2008-07-08, 05:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
A Gray Elf with a template is really probably your best option...
If you are allowed dragon magazines, there's the Fire Hobgolin (+2 Int, +2 Con, +2 Dex, -2 Cha, some other small things), but really, I would still rather grab something like 'Gray Elf + Dark Template'.Avatar by Alarra
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2008-07-08, 05:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
The dark template sounds...sexy. But does it make me look "wierd" all the time or can I have a normal appearance if I want to? Hehe, I'd be a Dark Gray elf or a Dark Sun Elf. Oxymoronic character here I come!
Last edited by Frosty; 2008-07-08 at 05:52 PM.
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2008-07-08, 07:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
What is the DR of which you speak in which the Rogue Modron race appears?
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2008-07-08, 07:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
That'd be Dragon magazine, I believe...
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2008-07-08, 07:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
DAMMIT! The one source I have no chance of getting my hands on at this point!
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2008-07-08, 07:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-07-08, 07:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
It looks Sun Elf isn't a choice...oh well, Gray Elf it is.
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2008-07-09, 12:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
I don't think this race has an LA, but you may be interrested in using a Tabaxi for this: http://www.silverdragonpress.com/rpg/tabaxi_3e.html .
EDIT: It looks too powerful for an LA 0 race due to the skill bonuses. I'd reduce them to a +2 bonus to Balance and Tumble with those 2 skills always counting as class skills.Last edited by Tempest Fennac; 2008-07-09 at 12:56 AM.
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2008-07-09, 12:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
Last edited by Reinboom; 2008-07-09 at 12:56 AM.
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2008-07-09, 01:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
Btw sweetrein, do you have your old avatar? I really liked it.
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2008-07-09, 01:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-07-09, 01:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
Frosty, do you think a Tabaxi would work if it was altered slightly? (Those stats seem to be for the 3rd Edition, so they may need changing a bit.)
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2008-07-09, 01:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-07-09, 01:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
Thanks for telling me. Do you think you'll use that race rather then an Elf? How are Dwarves and Warforged broken, though?
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2008-07-09, 01:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
Warforged aren't really broken. Dwarves are the top of the line as far as LA +0 races go. Just look at how much racial abilities they get. The +2 vs spells alone is amazing. They also get +2 to an important stat (Con) and -2 in a dump stat for many characters (Cha)
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2008-07-09, 01:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
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Finally, the only other template I can find that would be decent would be the chameleon template. For 10' reach reasons.
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2008-07-09, 01:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
I'd forgotten about those. Apart froma +6 to Wis and small size, what else do they have?
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2008-07-09, 01:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-07-09, 01:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
Thanks for telling me (I suppose the really slow ground speed makes them a liability initially, at least in places where they can't fly, but that's pretty much a non-issue once Wildshape is gained.
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2008-07-09, 02:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-07-09, 02:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What is best +1 LA race for Int casters?
I can't find that spell anywhere online. It would solve that particular problem, though.
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2008-07-09, 02:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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