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2008-09-20, 09:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Mythic Exemplar of Sunyartra: 12-20 Critical Threat?
Can a Mythic Exemplar of Sunyarta choose to take his least gift all 4 times (+1 to critical threat range)?
If so, imagine the Lightning Mace feat (CWar)... A light mace has a critical of x2. With 4 cases of the Least Gift, plus keen (which make it a 19-20 to start), one of your maces gets a critical threat range of 15-20/x2 and when you even threaten a critical you get a new melee attack. If keen is applied afterward, however, that light mace is now 12-20/x2.
There also might be a way to combine it with Dervish for something like 10-20/x2 on a scimitar.
Or, go kukri. Starts at 18-20. 8 levels of ME lowers that to 14-20. Keen doubles that range to 7-20. No reason not to score a critical at that point.Last edited by Maerok; 2008-09-20 at 09:14 PM.
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Re: Mythic Exemplar of Sunyartra: 12-20 Critical Threat?
Off hand, I'd say you can't but I'm AFB.
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Re: Mythic Exemplar of Sunyartra: 12-20 Critical Threat?
Each time you take the Least Gift, it just gives you an extra use per day of the ability. So you could get +1 to threat range 4 times per day, but not +4 threat range once per day.
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Re: Mythic Exemplar of Sunyartra: 12-20 Critical Threat?
Keen/Impacting does not work that way. If you have a 19-20 threat range it becomes 17-20, then apply skill/class/whatever modifiers. You can't just wait till you apply everything then double. It only increases by a number equal to the original threat range. See the SRD:
Keen
This ability doubles the threat range of a weapon. Only piercing or slashing weapons can be keen. (If you roll this property randomly for an inappropriate weapon, reroll.) This benefit doesn’t stack with any other effect that expands the threat range of a weapon (such as the keen edge spell or the Improved Critical feat).I like turtles!
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Re: Mythic Exemplar of Sunyartra: 12-20 Critical Threat?
If you're going for an insanely broad critical range (however you achieve it), you also want to remember that you have to hit first before you can threaten. It doesn't help much to have a 12-20 crit range, if you need a 15 to hit.
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2008-09-21, 12:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mythic Exemplar of Sunyartra: 12-20 Critical Threat?
Um, that's pretty much the exact opposite of how the rules work.
You automatically hit on any critical threat. What this does is mean you hit on 12-20, no matter what their AC is.
You then have to confirm of course, but a simple casting of dolorous blow takes care of that (level 2 spell, all threats automatically confirm).
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Last edited by RTGoodman; 2008-09-21 at 12:59 AM.
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2008-09-21, 06:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mythic Exemplar of Sunyartra: 12-20 Critical Threat?
This is also a common mistake with the Vorpal weapon enchant. Vorpal only works on a natural 20, not on any crit.
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Re: Mythic Exemplar of Sunyartra: 12-20 Critical Threat?
Unfortunately, the Aptitude weapon property doesn't work like its commonly touted about. I thought it did, at first, until I took the time to...you know...actually read the ability. It does 2 things. First, it allows you to use a weapon as if you had proficiency, which is pretty much a non-factor, and it allows you to apply feats you have where you specify a specific weapon to the Aptitude weapon. This is pretty much limited to (Greater) Weapon Focus, (Greater) Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, and Weapon Supremacy. Its basically a dumbed down version of a Warblades ability to refocus his weapon specific feats. It does NOT work with things like Lightning Maces, Boomerang Daze, Spinning Halberd, Three Mountains, etc. It does not give you a free pass to mix and match any weapon properties you want.
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2008-09-21, 09:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mythic Exemplar of Sunyartra: 12-20 Critical Threat?
I always thought it was dumb that Keen and Improved Critical don't stack. You'd think that if you're good at getting criticals with a normal sword, you'd be even better with a sharp (relatively) one. Oh well.
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2008-09-22, 01:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Mythic Exemplar of Sunyartra: 12-20 Critical Threat?
I was under the impression that the Least Gift was always active. But now that you mention it as +1 to critical threat once per day that seems like a more intended meaning.
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