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    Default [4e] Minotaur unarmed attacks

    This came up last night... how much damage does a minotaur's unarmed attack do, in light of the Oversized ability?
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    Default Re: [4e] Minotaur unarmed attacks

    Oversized allows the minotaur to wield larger-sized weapons; it doesn't make the weapons themselves larger. A minotaur's unarmed attack deals the same damage as any other medium sized creature, 1d4 + Str modifier.

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    Default Re: [4e] Minotaur unarmed attacks

    Erikun is right.

    However, just for flavor you might want to let them attack with their horns for...I dunno, 1d6 + STR, or 1d4 + 1.5*STR. It shouldn't unbalance the game, and adds a little extra flavor to the game, using the character's unique physiology.

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    Default Re: [4e] Minotaur unarmed attacks

    Just to note that nothing in 4E grants a 1.5*Strength damage bonus, so it would be most appropriate to just use bigger dice.

    Alternatively, you could do something like 1d4 + Str + Con. And minotaurs really don't have a gore attack already statted out? Wow.
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    Default Re: [4e] Minotaur unarmed attacks

    A minotaur has Gore as an encounter power. On a charge, they do 1D6 + Str, and knock someone prone.
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    Default Re: [4e] Minotaur unarmed attacks

    Maybe have a feat available to allow them to use their horns as a Weapon (1d6 counts as a spear?) or something. Kind of like how gnolls have a feat to let them use their claws as weapons and to make bite attacks when they bloody an enemy.
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    Default Re: [4e] Minotaur unarmed attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Asbestos View Post
    Kind of like how gnolls have a feat to let them use their claws as weapons and to make bite attacks when they bloody an enemy.


    ...Where is this gnoll feat...?


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    Default Re: [4e] Minotaur unarmed attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Suzuro View Post
    ...Where is this gnoll feat...?


    -Suzuro
    Here! Issue of Dragon right before people had to start paying to see them again. Great article beyond the feats, gives gnolls a supernatural quality I don't think they had before, helps separate them from the other evil monstrous humanoids a little better.

    But, to speed things up here are the feats I mentioned...

    Heroic Tier
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    Claw Fighter
    Prerequisite: Gnoll
    Benefit: You possess vicious claws, which you can use as weapons with a +3 proficiency bonus and
    1d6 damage. For purpose of powers and feats, you can treat your claws as light blades, and you are
    considered to have a weapon in each hand. You cannot enchant your claws.


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    Swift Bite
    Prerequisite: 11th level, gnoll
    Benefit: When you bloody a foe, you can choose to deal an extra 1d6 + Strength modifier damage with
    a bite against the target.


    It seems like this time around Dragon is many times more useful than it was before, or at least in my opinion.
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    Ooooh....! Thankee Sai!


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    Default Re: [4e] Minotaur unarmed attacks

    I'm tempted to make a custom paragon tier feat that allows claw fighters to enchant their claws as they were light blades.

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